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Val Panjc
Amarr
Delta Academy
Posted - 2011.02.22 17:09:00 - [361]
 

man, you're great!
+1

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.02.23 21:51:00 - [362]
 

Finally done with the metalevel lists, working on the refining lists and harvesting sites next. anyways offical changes below.

23 Feb 2011
-Metamorphic III, Page Add
-Metamorphic III covers the last of the modules the weapon systems. If you feel there should be anything else added to the list (like deployable guns, drones, ammo,) or if you disagree with some upgrade paths drop a reply and I'll see about making adjustments.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.02.26 20:46:00 - [363]
 

Sad to say further updates are... how to put it... on hold until further notice, new fourms are rolling out and.... well 6000 character limit is going to destroy things as they are when transfering over to the new fourms it will allow me to discuss a subject not as truncated and possibly remove some of the posts I didnt need to break down before. but hiccups and the sorts all abound between how formatting options are going to be taken and not taken. They very well may destroy the effort I put into presentation for now.

Insane Randomness
Posted - 2011.02.28 03:54:00 - [364]
 

Bump, because it deserves it. Nova, you've been doing a lot more work than I originally thought. I'll be in contact on DA...

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.02.28 04:13:00 - [365]
 

Edited by: Nova Fox on 28/02/2011 04:13:37
Well I just have to say though the 6000 character limits makes this a whole new ball game as it will allow for more information in hopefully fewer posts.

Though I managed to preserve current posts in an offline document it will take extensive editing to take advantage of the 6000 character limit. I will be able to get away more additional information posts but they're only for information used to further deepen the idea and not required for the overall presentation which is why that chapter IS last.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.03.02 15:38:00 - [366]
 

Edited by: Nova Fox on 02/03/2011 17:01:05
Im thinking about adding unpowered sites to belts purely to allow low and cheap yeilds in belts and to allow new players who havent trained up beacon yet to be able to start thier profession on day 1.

I am also looking for more suggestions. Specifically programs for POS's to operate. I was thinking maybe a refinery acceration program for the ice melting. and possibly giving a pos an observatory. And yes Hacking stuff is around the corner just let me finish off these SOE ships.

Anyways new data chart is up its a harvesting time table for the data chaper on page three you can see how skills and ships can effect a harvest. Rookieshp of no skills only gets 5 cycles while a nearly solo max Siren yanks 14 from one site.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.03.04 01:05:00 - [367]
 

I may disappear for a long while, anyone have any last minute suggestions complaints issues ideas before we move over to the new fourms?

Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.03.08 12:49:00 - [368]
 

Bump

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.03.10 23:43:00 - [369]
 

Im going to start prepping for xfers to the new boards soon due to the 6k character limits if it still holds, and possible other changes to the fourm board formats.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.03.18 20:38:00 - [370]
 

still no last minute suggestions to be added before the transfer over?

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.03.30 19:32:00 - [371]
 

Expect a few topics to dissapear when the trasnfer over happens due to the 6k character limits also becuase it looks like none of the color formatting or size formatting will be transfered over to the new threads its going to look bleak in being able to represent this idea in full glory. Ive already began to retype the topics out however and hopefully will get the newer version deployed quickly as possible.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.04.03 06:56:00 - [372]
 

Edited by: Nova Fox on 03/04/2011 07:02:52
Well some minor updates added some more numbers to

File-ology, section which should contain all the new programs to be used. Does not include Hacker Decks/Tools though. ANd im still peicing together the specific blueprints when I have time so far I have target 'goals' which is currently based on pricing of private labs for sale and POS operational costs x2 for normally researched duration. Basically all the research programs will basically allow you to manually cut down hours by having other people activily work on that research but it will be inefficent eventually. Also still need to scale time factors as well as stated previously the futher researched a print is the higher the requirements of materials are.

Also made some updates to Diggerest section which contains information on findable sites. The complete list still needs to be done but new entries are there for the moment. This section looks like it will need a post 2 and an extended glossary to reduce text footprint.

I also just remember mentioning that moons and planets can be a resource point for these programs/materials for new tools so that may be the next big section when I get there.

Future updates include Meta level researching Ships.

You heard me right, meta level researching ships, Ill explain how this will be done and the interfaces required for it.

Also another factor I need to possibly mention is how to increase your chances of successful meta leving. And an additional punishment for metalevel research, Lowering of levels similar to how invention and reverse engineering goes into the negative values.

Also I forgot to list the decryptors and instructions for the File-ology section Ill get to it later. Anyways offical patch notes

3 Apr 2011
-File-ology, Information Add, Trail Man hour resorce given, this will determine blueprint composition.
-Digger, Information Add, Added 2 All space sites, Added 2 Low Sec Space Sites, pending null sec, pending W-space, pending DED-space, Pending PI, Pending Moon Harvesting.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.04.12 19:03:00 - [373]
 

Blah middile of editing posts over at the new fourms and they take them down I hope they dont do an entire reset of those fourms.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.04.22 02:16:00 - [374]
 

Bleh still waiting on the new fourms hoping to be able to squeeze in the the other two professions salvaging and hacking if given the time, meanwhile Ill redesign all the ships to current to match the new traveler and urania.

Alec Freeman
Minmatar
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.04.29 01:29:00 - [375]
 

This is awesome. Would be perfect for the 1st expansion after the Incarna (would be better before Incarna but... CCP seems to care more about silly minigames)

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.04.30 21:31:00 - [376]
 

Still milling about the new ideas but I think I may have come up with an easier to balance solution to making metalevels of ships.

Series introduced for ship meta-level research will not change Slot Layout at all this will prevent over abuses of unique slot layouts as that can get overly difficult to balance all possible outcomes.

So the new series will be changing stats around, like consuming powergrid for capacitor stats or vice versa.

The most powerful series and possibly most sought will be the bonus series, Most tech 1 ships have two bonuses the bonus series will barrow fraction of one bonus and equivalently apply it to the other. IE one ship have 10% Gun damage and 5% Armor repair, a researcher can meta-level a ship to have 12% Gun and 4% Armor repair instead.

Custom ships are similar to the custom modules, they will be difficult to get original BPOs of at higher levels but lower levels BPO and BPCs should be often aquired enough.

To make things more interesting I am deciding to make all custom modules and ships require planetary interaction materials from tier II to tier IV in thier construction not in thier research however.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.05.23 20:27:00 - [377]
 

Im sorry I've been busy in real life to continue this project any further for the moment with the prospects of a new fourm possibly being vaporware as far as we're concerned means that I may have to start updated this thread instead in its current format and continue with the work soon.

Im currently redesigning the wanderer and it looks far more in line with the Urania and the new Traveler than the previous versions and Im also making the blueprint layouts now for each ship. I still have exactly designed the capitol ships yet but I feel comfortable enough its more possible now than the old 'pixie' designs where.

If you have any new suggestions ideas complaints concerns or comments please let me hear them out I do enjoy adressing the issues brought up and possibly can come up with a creative solution to each issue. If something is confusing you in the description let me hear that out as well so I can go back in with a hammer and make it better to understand.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.05.28 07:41:00 - [378]
 

Edited by: Nova Fox on 28/05/2011 07:42:43
28 May 2011
-Wanderer Model Updated

I guess this is to say I need to start ramping up to the Incarna Edition of this idea. Ill try to get more things fleshed out get more ideas arranged and maybe just maybe begin phase 2 of the idea, introduce hacking as a full fledge subprofession akin to salvagers is the miners subprofession. And finish the ship metalevel researching idea.

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.05.29 15:19:00 - [379]
 

Not to burst your bubbles but Incarna is just the start of what is probably going to be a massive undertaking. I doubt they will have the resources for much else. Making useless station interiors in order to sell virtual goods for real world money seems to be the priority now. Since EVE is pretty much the same game as it was when I started several years ago I dont suspect things will change anytime soon.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.05.30 06:37:00 - [380]
 

Exactly gives me time to hammer this idea out into perfection!

Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr
Vengeance Industrial Militia
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:04:00 - [381]
 

Please find ways to make those posts smaller.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.06.01 05:58:00 - [382]
 

Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari
Please find ways to make those posts smaller.


Sorry thats what seperates mine from the one post

"Please expand exploration"
or the
"Please give sisters a ship of thier own"
or
"Please give us more things to do in eve."
threads.

Its unfourtunate that this idea is years in the making I do apologize its so long, I have cut it back as much as possible wihtout leaving any window of oppertunity to be asked questions about how something is supposed to work.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.06.04 21:07:00 - [383]
 

Edited by: Nova Fox on 04/06/2011 23:06:34
4 Jun 2011
-Surveyor Model Updated

Finally last of the tech 1 ships done, next up the analzyer models and then tech 2, utility, and the two capitol ships then blueprints for them all.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.06.08 16:11:00 - [384]
 

Blog.

Well, I got 12 days to start rolling out with the Incarna edition, there wont be any new features becuase of Incarna newer features though except maybe PI related stuff but... that's going to be long shot with dust interaction unknowns in the futures. Though I should probably go back and redo the turrets for the analyzer and data steraming analayzers as the only incarana turely related feature and start hammering away at the manufacturing process so we can get even more estimated price tags for these things.

I do say though I want to use PI materials for manufacturing of any invented meta-level item outside the alpha series, this should make things fun on the market at least.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.07.12 15:59:00 - [385]
 

Well Had a computer crash and lost everything I was going to deploy :( so what is currently up is up and that's it for this edition Ill have to go back and redo all the work again.

Nunchuck Norris
Posted - 2011.07.12 23:03:00 - [386]
 

why don`t you put it all on a blog and link it in the first post ?

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.07.14 20:18:00 - [387]
 

Originally by: Nunchuck Norris
why don`t you put it all on a blog and link it in the first post ?


Because thats a great way to discourage people from reading the idea in the first place if they have to leave the eve online website.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.08.09 16:18:00 - [388]
 

Sorry for the lack of updates with trying to get things done in real life Ill try to get back to this real soon.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.08.22 05:04:00 - [389]
 

I may scrap the ship metalevel research idea entirely considering the database loads and may consider just handing that over to the hackers for the ai slot upgrade instead. Still I need to hammer out the rest of the numbers draw the last few ships and peices of equipment and get things wrapped up around here. Ill try to update when i can school just started for me so it may be a while.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.08.29 16:16:00 - [390]
 

All further updates are on hold new fourums are relaunching.


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