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nartela
Posted - 2008.08.31 10:24:00 - [1]
 

i need advice Ive always wanted to start pirating, but have delayed it because im still training to use better ships.
did you guys start pirating straight away or did you wait until you had a good ship.

at the moment im still in a rifter, but im a few weeks away from getting one of the minmatar assault ships.
should i start pirating then or wait for an even better ship.

also this

Great Artista
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.08.31 10:34:00 - [2]
 

Don't wait 'till you get into expensive ships, rifter is quite nice for lowsec belt piracy when you're starting it. Because its cheap. Razz

nartela
Posted - 2008.08.31 10:38:00 - [3]
 

cool maybe il look into ito finding a pirate corp then thanks

Corstaad
Minmatar
Vardr ok Lidskjalv
Posted - 2008.08.31 10:48:00 - [4]
 

I started after I ended my trial account. Find a L3 honey hole for money. Then fly a race with a good frig and future BS. The best part of eve for me is the low sec life.

Nocturnal Avenger
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.08.31 11:23:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: nartela
i need advice Ive always wanted to start pirating, but have delayed it because im still training to use better ships.


If you want to pirate - NOW is a good time to start. Fly cheap tech 1 in the beginning, since you're are bound to make a lot of silly mistakes in the beginning anyway.

Good luck YARRRR!!

SwindonBadger
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2008.08.31 11:37:00 - [6]
 

My alt died in a stabber recently to a merlin.... for the setup ud would have needed maybe 2 months of training, or even if u dint quite have some t2 mods would still have killed me....

eveyone on ts laughed at me and I used all my skills of look at ship to try get a litte damage in by matching his ships directin but to no avail .. and then they laughed harder when I was like all eggy and stuff.

that merlin could be u ,, just turn to the dark side and ur on ur way.

whisk
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.08.31 12:01:00 - [7]
 

might as well starting to train an alt that can haul then fly cov op and falcon and do l4s ;)

druid 99
Posted - 2008.08.31 13:12:00 - [8]
 

i started to pirate on day 3 in a merlin and them moved to crusers i can now fly cmd ship but i dont i have a nighthawk just incase but my advice is to stay t1

a. it cheaper so u get more money
b. do ransoming and stick to ur word dont pod after they give u the money

Whosyour Daddy
Lock Scramble and POP
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.31 14:31:00 - [9]
 

I started to pirate on day 1 and have enjoyed it ever since, but I had older pilots with me, guiding me so to speakWinkYARRRR!!

soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2008.08.31 15:53:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Great Artista
Don't wait 'till you get into expensive ships, rifter is quite nice for lowsec belt piracy when you're starting it. Because its cheap. Razz




this tbh


and like they said, dont wait until you get better ships because just so you know, t2 ships like the assault ship you want only insure for their t1 value, which means each time you die (which you will) your out 10mil from the get go

you can use that money for a cruiser which can tank more, do more damage and everything, and still not spend as much, and its insurable, which means you only lose the value of your equipment

Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.31 15:56:00 - [11]
 

Just echoing the sentiments already put forth. Start now. Fly cheap. You will die a lot in the beginning.

KeLLaX
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.08.31 16:27:00 - [12]
 

join a pvp corp first... learn from them instead of trying to figure out stuff on your own by getting blown up over and over and calling yourself a pirate in the process... know the ships, know the fights... after getting good at pvp you can become anything you want, pirate, merc, whatever...

KeLLaX
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.08.31 16:29:00 - [13]
 

join a pvp corp first... learn from them instead of trying to figure out stuff on your own by getting blown up over and over and calling yourself a pirate in the process... know the ships, know the fights... after getting good at pvp you can become anything you want, pirate, merc, whatever...

Seth McKenzee
Surge.
Posted - 2008.08.31 22:35:00 - [14]
 

I started pirating as soon as I could fly a t1 fitted battlecruiser and haven't looked back. My advice make sure you can support yourself isk-wise before you go -10 and **** block yourself from high-sec. Best way is to have a logistics alt ferry your stuff from hi-sec.

Seth McKenzee
CEO of Surge.

Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
Posted - 2008.09.01 01:01:00 - [15]
 

I started piracy the moment I had the skills to use a warp scrambler and stasis webifier, flying my Incursus. You can read about my experiences at http://eve-pirate.blogspot.com.

Some pilots just take a cheap T1 frigate out and start hunting; others train up for cruisers or battlecruisers before they start. The pilots in the frigates usually end up killing the pilots in the bigger ships; at any given point in their career, the former are more experienced pirates than the latter.

As you skill up and are able to fly more classes of ships, you'll have more options, more flexibility, more opportunities; but in any class of ship, you have to have a clear idea of which ships are risks and which are opportunities while you're in that ship. Might as well start learning with T1 frigates.

Jolo

Xasz
The Python Cartel.
Posted - 2008.09.01 01:07:00 - [16]
 

I started piracy in a frigate, just into cruiser skills. I sucked at first, I won't lie. My first pirate corp taught me all the ropes though, and now... I still suck, but less. Neutral

Good luck to you! YARRRR!!

Burn Mac
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2008.09.01 05:45:00 - [17]
 

I started 22 hours after registering.

StealthGerbils
Advanced Component Research Enterprise
Posted - 2008.09.01 06:16:00 - [18]
 

really if you pick your fights and flee if there are hostiles you can start on day 1. just remember that mining barges and industrials are pretty weak.

Gilgamesh1980
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2008.09.01 07:22:00 - [19]
 

after the third month in to the game, I started pirating and never looked back.
make sure you have an alternative means of income though, as even more Advanced pirates lose ships.

drop me a mail, if you are indeed interested in the arts, and we can have a chat.


Sin Fae
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2008.09.01 07:42:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Sin Fae on 01/09/2008 07:46:57
Edited by: Sin Fae on 01/09/2008 07:45:28
What Gilly said :o)

I lost a crapload of ships when I started. Can't emphasize the back-up money plan, you'll need it. Don't stress about it tho, you'll figure it out. Actually that's how I became such a great ore-thief - which then lead to corp and alliance exthortion.

Is it less money than maxing trading skills / (insert activity here)? Maybe. OK well probably. But in no other profession will you have the ability to consistantly fight and win 1v4 odds, (that's you vs 4 others). You learn **** merc/fleet pilots would never figure out in a million years.

Like many things, it is a journey. Go for it and don't look back.


Broken Rose
Minmatar
Galactic Defence Syndicate
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2008.09.01 08:18:00 - [21]
 

I started with tech I rifters, sweetest combat ship Ive killed battleship's, Bc's and a heck load of cruisers in it...

Granted it was messing with miners, but I still lost a crap ton of ships, fighting against tech II stuff..

But I learned a lot and now fly battleships and recons...


Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2008.09.01 08:38:00 - [22]
 

Bigger is rarely better in EVE, even more so in an inexperienced pilot's hands

NeoTheo
M'8'S
Posted - 2008.09.01 10:22:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: NeoTheo on 01/09/2008 10:22:12
biggest thing i can say to any pirate starting out is, SORT YOUR LOGISTICS.

;)

you need a alt who can haul stuff in to lowsec for you and you also need someone to fly in your battleships.

other than that, just honour your ransoms, and pew pew pew. ;)


H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2008.09.01 10:42:00 - [24]
 

I was a carebear, doing nothing but missions until my char was 10 months old. Then the mission running got so annoying that I decided to put an end to this dull path and luckily met TBR who taught me the art of transferring other people's property to you by force. The positive side of this approach was a good financial background that helped me to compensate my losses.

As others stated above, only fly what you can afford to lose because you will lose it at some point. Specialize in one ship class first and then diversify.

1) Learn to use your scanner
2) Watch local
3) Find like minded people to learn from.
4) ???
5) Profit

YARRRR!!And do it NOW!Very Happy

Savage Roar
O X I D E
Posted - 2008.09.01 12:15:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: KeLLaX
after getting good at pvp you can become anything you want
I find it almost impossible to believe that after getting good at pvp you can become a miner. then again, i find it almost impossible to believe that after getting good at pvp, anyone would want to become a miner...

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.09.01 12:21:00 - [26]
 

I started occasionally pirating about three months into the game or something in a Rifter. I went to full time piracy maybe 5 months into the game, flying almost exclusively Rifters for a long while.

Logistics is easy for a Rifter pilot to sort out - buy a Rifter BPO, and get a alt (works on the same account too) in a hauling frigate to bring you modules and other stuff. It does not take too long to specialize in a Rifter and when you do, it's a very capable ship.

Nowdays you'll mostly see me in a BC which I am heavily specialized into, but I can fly any T1 ship with good proficency, and occasionally fly AFs for solo fun (note that AFs, while easy to get, require quite a bit of skills to be really effective and are generally rather expensive to fit correctly - meaning they're not begginer's ships).

Ma Mendes
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.09.01 12:45:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Cpt Branko
I started occasionally pirating about three months into the game or something in a Rifter. I went to full time piracy maybe 5 months into the game, flying almost exclusively Rifters for a long while.

Logistics is easy for a Rifter pilot to sort out - buy a Rifter BPO, and get a alt (works on the same account too) in a hauling frigate to bring you modules and other stuff. It does not take too long to specialize in a Rifter and when you do, it's a very capable ship.

Nowdays you'll mostly see me in a BC which I am heavily specialized into, but I can fly any T1 ship with good proficency, and occasionally fly AFs for solo fun (note that AFs, while easy to get, require quite a bit of skills to be really effective and are generally rather expensive to fit correctly - meaning they're not begginer's ships).



What Branko was trying to say is, he faction fits his AF's and kills people in complexs with them. Branko also loves to suicide his Phoons so normally fly a Cane instead as it costs less to loss when he is drunk. :)

p.s. I love branko, miss u bud.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.09.01 13:13:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: nartela
i need advice Ive always wanted to start pirating, but have delayed it because im still training to use better ships.
did you guys start pirating straight away or did you wait until you had a good ship.

at the moment im still in a rifter, but im a few weeks away from getting one of the minmatar assault ships.
should i start pirating then or wait for an even better ship.

also this


The right time is just after you realise that their stuff should be your stuff.

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.09.01 13:14:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Ma Mendes

What Branko was trying to say is, he faction fits his AF's and kills people in complexs with them. Branko also loves to suicide his Phoons so normally fly a Cane instead as it costs less to loss when he is drunk. :)

p.s. I love branko, miss u bud.


Rigged deadspace-fit AFs, faction fittings suck Laughing

What have you been up to, anyway? I miss having you in the Rapier + Dartauw in the Broadsword for camps, that is a vile combination Very Happy

flashfresh
The Bastards
The Bastards.
Posted - 2008.09.01 14:15:00 - [30]
 

Start your pirating career as soon as possible. Make suitable arrangements to either sell all your stuff in high-sec (going to be difficult to re-enter high sec space when you're blinking and red...) and find a base in low-sec to base yourself out of.

Get a cheap ship - I find a T1 fitted rifter to be an ideal choice and then go to town.

You will lose ships on a regular basis but you should be having more fun then at any time in your EVE career.

Good hunting.

F


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