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Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.30 07:47:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Sana Yamada on 31/08/2008 07:21:12
To nay company Dev , Lawyer , Govt or technology from with the will, as miners advance to better ships smaller secure containers no longer are suitable when they get filled with to ticks. Wht I propose please is the makeing of a 12000 M3 secure container , for mining barges to use even larger ones for Corporation concerns but I am a lone miner most of the time and get tired of seeing my ore stolen as I mine it , smaller cans more of a hindrence really and larger ones would mean way less clutter in belts. If anyone else likes this Idea please tell me and sign this as a petition for research to start.

Thank you for oyur time and assistance

Sana

Ezekiel Amann
Posted - 2008.08.30 08:01:00 - [2]
 

Ill agree with that, Im a can miner but I dont use GSC's. But in the fairly popular systems I can see why this would be necessary. In my Hulk I get 4300 m3 per cycle which is (in 3 minutes) 400 m3 more than a GSC can hold. It would be nice for a GSC that can hold 12,000m3 or even ones that can hold 20,000m3 (not holding my breath on that one). But definately around 10,000-12,000m3 range would be good.

Torothanax
Posted - 2008.08.30 08:23:00 - [3]
 

It's an age old complaint. The current solution is to get a second account and transfer the ore directly into your alts hauler.

Cause ya know one person dual boxing a hulk and a mobile 50k m3 secure can is so differnt from one person with a hulk and a 27.5k m3 can anchored next to him.

Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.30 09:24:00 - [4]
 

Some of use cant arrofd other accounts , and this is a old issue yes but still it needs to be brought up with the times mining barges outmine the current containers makeing them useless for rapid mining. There are people that like to mine indepentently and this would give those people alot more freedom really.

Lothros Andastar
Gallente
Posted - 2008.08.30 12:32:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Sana Yamada
Some of use cant arrofd other accounts , and this is a old issue yes but still it needs to be brought up with the times mining barges outmine the current containers makeing them useless for rapid mining. There are people that like to mine indepentently and this would give those people alot more freedom really.


Wait wait, here's an idea....

Get friends!

Eve is a Multiplayer game.

Zyrie
Posted - 2008.08.30 12:42:00 - [6]
 

I did not mine for a long time, but I remember that our mining corp events where a big highlight in my EVE youth.
So really, join a mining corp and work together with other players.
You can (but don't have to) chat with them, have fun, be more effective, learn from them, get mining bonus from mining gang modules, etc.
And if you have coleagues that you dont like or that are cheating on you... well there are idios everywhere, so just leave and join another corp.

Regards,
Zyrie

Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.30 15:27:00 - [7]
 

Ok well once again can there be any atonomy in this game, I do understand that mining in groups does have some benefits , what about the people that dont , I have seen Coprs rip people off to the point they dont want to be in them anymore, I have seen others very happy with there guilds. That is not the question what is haveing alarger mining container so you can mine anytime you like and not have to wait for others to come online ot plan full ops. I hope this makes sense.

Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.31 02:00:00 - [8]
 

Can a Actuall Dev respond to this please

Karanth
Gallente
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2008.08.31 03:16:00 - [9]
 

You could mine in a hauler. Never gonna overload that thing.

Or, I dunno, buy GTC with some ISK, and get an alt that way? Somehow, someway, people manage to mine huge massive amounts of ore every day without needing bigger cans.


Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.31 03:22:00 - [10]
 

Yes they do but those are group efforts not what I am woried about I am not wanting to mine massivley but I would like to have a way to do it that does not have to depend on others. MMOG means alot of people play it not that you have to work with others all the time lol. And not have to be ripped off by can looters , or spend more time haveing to haul ore from overly small containers, then actually mining if that makes sense and I know there are alot of others that feel the same way.

Karanth
Gallente
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2008.08.31 03:45:00 - [11]
 

Can flippers are a bogeyman like permanent gate camps or the like. They do not cover every square light year of EVE, and with a bit of work you can either cargofit your barge, find somewhere quiet enough to jetcan mine, or hell, you can even do mining missions where no one will ever bother stealing your ore.

Refusing to accept the options that exist doesn't make them poor options, it makes you inflexible.


Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Kumovi
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2008.08.31 03:58:00 - [12]
 

Massively MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game. Behave to it.

Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.31 04:29:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Massively MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game. Behave to it.


Ok what does that mean exactly

Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.31 04:31:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Karanth
Can flippers are a bogeyman like permanent gate camps or the like. They do not cover every square light year of EVE, and with a bit of work you can either cargofit your barge, find somewhere quiet enough to jetcan mine, or hell, you can even do mining missions where no one will ever bother stealing your ore.

Refusing to accept the options that exist doesn't make them poor options, it makes you inflexible.




No but if you wish to chose the mos inificient way of mining around just how do you ever expect to make a profit lol then again if it was so great why did they create mining barges, you can mine the way you wish simply does not mean I have to it is a choice really and is yours the right one.

Sir Substance
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.08.31 05:08:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Sir Substance on 31/08/2008 05:11:09
Originally by: Sana Yamada
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Massively MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game. Behave to it.


Ok what does that mean exactly



it means he is using the tired old argument of saying because this game is classed as an MMO, you shouldn't play any part of it on your own, ever.

needless to say, hes wrong, but its never worth the trouble explaining that to people who think that kind of argument is a good one.

edit: it also means hes saying you should can mine to a hauler. once again, hes wrong. this is a terrible way of mining, because if you are doing it with a corpmate, you need to pay him for his time unless you are a douche, and if you arnt doing it with a corpmate you need to have a second account for your hauler alt, and that doesnt really count as multiplayer anyway.

Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.31 05:34:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Sir Substance
Edited by: Sir Substance on 31/08/2008 05:11:09
Originally by: Sana Yamada
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Massively MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game. Behave to it.


Ok what does that mean exactly



it means he is using the tired old argument of saying because this game is classed as an MMO, you shouldn't play any part of it on your own, ever.




needless to say, hes wrong, but its never worth the trouble explaining that to people who think that kind of argument is a good one.

edit: it also means hes saying you should can mine to a hauler. once again, hes wrong. this is a terrible way of mining, because if you are doing it with a corpmate, you need to pay him for his time unless you are a douche, and if you arnt doing it with a corpmate you need to have a second account for your hauler alt, and that doesnt really count as multiplayer anyway.


No with your comment you just confirmed how narrow you think , that everything has to be done with someone else what makes you so right does it. Minning this way you woulf not have to rely on others and maybe that is what bothers you most. I guess you cant explain yourself because you really have nothing to prove your point , the whole thing is people should be able to enjoy the game and not have to get a second account or have to boot lick a corp like you seem to do. You try to make a point yet you dont give a reason why it is so bad . Would a 12000 M3 secure container really be bad and is so why do you feel it is.

Sir Substance
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.08.31 07:01:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Sir Substance on 31/08/2008 07:02:46
Originally by: Sana Yamada
Originally by: Sir Substance
Edited by: Sir Substance on 31/08/2008 05:11:09
Originally by: Sana Yamada
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Massively MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game. Behave to it.


Ok what does that mean exactly



it means he is using the tired old argument of saying because this game is classed as an MMO, you shouldn't play any part of it on your own, ever.




needless to say, hes wrong, but its never worth the trouble explaining that to people who think that kind of argument is a good one.

edit: it also means hes saying you should can mine to a hauler. once again, hes wrong. this is a terrible way of mining, because if you are doing it with a corpmate, you need to pay him for his time unless you are a douche, and if you arnt doing it with a corpmate you need to have a second account for your hauler alt, and that doesnt really count as multiplayer anyway.


No with your comment you just confirmed how narrow you think , that everything has to be done with someone else what makes you so right does it. Minning this way you woulf not have to rely on others and maybe that is what bothers you most. I guess you cant explain yourself because you really have nothing to prove your point , the whole thing is people should be able to enjoy the game and not have to get a second account or have to boot lick a corp like you seem to do. You try to make a point yet you dont give a reason why it is so bad . Would a 12000 M3 secure container really be bad and is so why do you feel it is.


im glad we agree on this point, because thats the position im supporting. why dont you read peoples posts before you make yourself look like a fool. i solo mine without a hauler alt, i dont can mine, and i can count on my fingers the number of corp mining ops i have attended.

learn to read, twit.

Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.31 07:06:00 - [18]
 

I am sorry but your comment really was not very clear , I am happy you agree but please do read your remarks they sound like you were takeing the other side and that you should have others. at least I know where you stand clear of it and thank you for your support

Lerato Crenlon
Quinlan Enterprises
Posted - 2008.08.31 07:13:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Lerato Crenlon on 31/08/2008 07:14:36
Originally by: Lothros Andastar
Originally by: Sana Yamada
Some of use cant arrofd other accounts , and this is a old issue yes but still it needs to be brought up with the times mining barges outmine the current containers makeing them useless for rapid mining. There are people that like to mine indepentently and this would give those people alot more freedom really.


Wait wait, here's an idea....

Get friends!

Eve is a Multiplayer game.


Wrong Loth. Eve is a glorified IRC channel with Freecell. The client just renders the deck as ships. Wreckage is the game's way of alerting you that you're making an illegal move.

(Edited to correct caffeine-deprived grammar.)

BiggestT
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2008.08.31 07:14:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: BiggestT on 31/08/2008 07:15:26
Originally by: Sana Yamada
larger ones for guild concerns


go back to WoW

we have guild corps in the superior mmo

Sana Yamada
Posted - 2008.08.31 07:21:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: BiggestT
Edited by: BiggestT on 31/08/2008 07:15:26
Originally by: Sana Yamada
larger ones for guild concerns


go back to WoW

we have guild corps in the superior mmo[/q

I see you could not look past a simple oversight asnd well had to go to straight to being a jerk. Try makeing a comment about the idea not that you are a obsses retentive type. Your Comment gets nothing accomplished.

Sir Substance
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.08.31 07:32:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Sana Yamada
Originally by: BiggestT
Edited by: BiggestT on 31/08/2008 07:15:26
Originally by: Sana Yamada
larger ones for guild concerns


go back to WoW

we have guild corps in the superior mmo[/q

I see you could not look past a simple oversight asnd well had to go to straight to being a jerk. Try makeing a comment about the idea not that you are a obsses retentive type. Your Comment gets nothing accomplished.


you are not making friends here man. if you want your ideas considered a) learn to type correctly and b) dont insult every second person in your thread.

Luzz Bightyear
Posted - 2008.08.31 14:48:00 - [23]
 

Laughing Oh please don't stop flaming each other, this is wonderful entertainment.

Kind of like pitbull fighting.

Anya Linnel
Posted - 2008.08.31 15:02:00 - [24]
 

Anyone ever think of bookmarking asteroids, warping to Zero, and heading back to stations when your hold is full? Nice, safe and secure.

fkingfurious
Posted - 2008.08.31 15:17:00 - [25]
 

Get a Hulk, fitted with cargo optimisers and expanded cargo II's and it ends being about the size of an expanded Iteron.

Miner and hauler all in one shiny package.

Sir Substance
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.09.01 09:04:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: fkingfurious
Get a Hulk, fitted with cargo optimisers and expanded cargo II's and it ends being about the size of an expanded Iteron.

Miner and hauler all in one shiny package.


i keep telling people this and noone but me ever seems to do it.

BiggestT
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2008.09.01 10:32:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: BiggestT on 01/09/2008 10:32:55
Originally by: Sana Yamada
Originally by: BiggestT
Edited by: BiggestT on 31/08/2008 07:15:26
Originally by: Sana Yamada
larger ones for guild concerns


go back to WoW

we have guild corps in the superior mmo[/q

I see you could not look past a simple oversight asnd well had to go to straight to being a jerk. Try makeing a comment about the idea not that you are a obsses retentive type. Your Comment gets nothing accomplished.


Uh oh i think hes upset now..
Id have helped you out if the op didnt scream ignorance, just get a hauler buddy.
The fact that you run to the forums without consulting ppl in-game (happens far too much really) to ask them how they deal with the problem proves that you needed trolling. Plus WoW is just so wrong in many ways.
/end flame

but welcome to EVE, thats a step in the right direction Wink

edit: obese lol, just saw that, my metabolsim is too high for that :P

Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
House of El
Posted - 2008.09.01 12:31:00 - [28]
 

As have been said, this is a MMO. It means, that you must rely on others to be most effective and safe and that is a fair choice.

You can chose to mine alone in a jet can with high profits but risk theft.

You can mine alone in a secure can, but have a lot of hassle with logistics and hence lower profits but also lower risks.

Or you can mine in a corp with someone hauling for you, meaning less risk of theft, no logistics but you have to split your profit.

What you are asking for, is to have all the benefits without the risks.

Cyberman Mastermind
Posted - 2008.09.01 12:45:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
As have been said, this is a MMO. It means, that you must rely on others to be most effective and safe and that is a fair choice.

Does that apply only to mining, or missions as well?
I'm fairly sure most of the mission runners to L4 missions solo, and quite effective, getting more money than any miner.

Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
House of El
Posted - 2008.09.01 13:26:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
As have been said, this is a MMO. It means, that you must rely on others to be most effective and safe and that is a fair choice.

Does that apply only to mining, or missions as well?
I'm fairly sure most of the mission runners to L4 missions solo, and quite effective, getting more money than any miner.


That is correct. Many, very many, solo lvl 4's and do get a substantial amount of isk. But would it not be faster if you were 2?
I'm using an alt to do all the tanking for me in lvl 4's, and it's WAY faster than solo running. Mainly because I can fit for DPS and still have the tank to survive.

So it still applies to lvl 4 missions, but most do them alone anyways.
I have no idea if you make more isk mining or missioning, but i find it more fun to mission than mine.


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