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Alaxen
Caldari
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2008.08.27 03:44:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog

It's a moot point because BoB attract 'power-gamers', much like TRI used to.


Fixed it for you.

Didn't all the decent peeps from Tri join Pandemic Legion?

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.27 03:49:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Graalum on 27/08/2008 03:49:30
Originally by: Alaxen
Originally by: Butter Dog

It's a moot point because BoB attract 'power-gamers', much like TRI used to.


Fixed it for you.

Didn't all the decent peeps from Tri join Pandemic Legion?


i think all the emo-rage fgts from tri joined pandemic legion, but i could be wrong.

*as a point in my favor, they do have dungar, who sucks tremendously

Death Church
Caldari
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2008.08.27 03:52:00 - [93]
 

They could come and claim Curse like TCF.


Efdi
Minmatar
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.27 03:58:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Graalum

i think all the emo-rage fgts from tri joined pandemic legion, but i could be wrong.

*as a point in my favor, they do have dungar, who sucks tremendously


Dungar is less of an emo-rage fgt and more of a red shirt-wearing ginger fgt.

Rebellion
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.27 06:20:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: Rebellion on 27/08/2008 06:31:00
Here's what I think:

I think PL should start talking with -A- and TCF and get them to stop wasting time for a moment and set aside differences to fight BoB. Talks should then be had with TRI and Requiem for the same purpose. If they can pull this off, they can act as the de facto leader of this new coalition.

PL should then start by sending a significant chunk of its forces to attempt to gain control of Delve. After all, being a "mobile" fighting force, it should not matter where they set up shop. Rather than Fountain, they can move to Delve and capitalize on BoB capital fleets being in the north.

Attempt to create difficulty in movement in Delve while the other alliances simultaneously apply pressure on different points. All you really need are gangs of 50 people to constitute a significant threat.

Furthermore, the goal should not be as much as to take systems as it is to force combat with a GBC fleet. They should place maximum priority on trolling a GBC fleet to engage and they can then attempt to overwhelm it with superior numbers, and or better preparation. Taking over systems is pointless, they need to put a strain on morale.

Coordinate with the NC so that if the GBC sends capital forces south, the NC will stage assaults to recapture lost assets in the north.

The last EVE vs BoB war has proven that alliances combining forces is disastrous without proper preparation, so the next BoB war should have significant thought put into resolving that. As a start, just don't combine forces if there is no single FC that everyone will follow completely. Fighting separately will probably be better than a confused mess.

Also have a respectable public face for this new offensive, and refrain from appearing petulant so that the other neutral alliances or corporations don't get turned off and perhaps actually join in for support. This technically means to not allow the usual posters from PL or GS to become prominent and outspoken voices for the effort. Maybe get someone of Seleene's or Eddz's caliber to do the talking.

Finally, have someone coordinate all those titans into an effective rotating (ha!) watch. From bridges to deterrents, they are still hugely effective. Don't forget to have a significant standing fleet to protect them too.

As a start, have any former BoB in on the decision making process, or at least get their input. They kind of know how BoB works from first hand information. In fact, if you can get someone like Jake to FC your fleets, you'll probably already be better than 99% of any past anti-BoB fleets. It will also help alleviate his boredom and revitalize his EVE passion.

There may be other details to sort out, but this should be a start. Let's bring about another war that will destroy the inflated ship stocks all over the cluster.

More passion, more drama, more explosions, more fighting, more things to write about, more stories to tell, more chaos in the standing order of things.

Adm Tecumseh
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.27 07:00:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 27/08/2008 07:07:36

TBFH I would like to see GoonFleet do a standings reset.

RA( whats left of it) has all but abandoned GF to it's own devices. Putting itself and it's petty squabbles first. So now in all reality the RSF is just the SF. Now when it came to Delve we didn't see to much of what would be considered the F from the SF. IMO GF owes them no loyalty because in the moment of decision the F was missing from the equation.

Also a UNL corp has left UNL and is living in the middle of SF territory. So it can be said that UNL is failing to some degree and therefore GF cannot count on them to contribute to the SF. Subsequently now the Goons are relatively alone. With proper management they can continue to be a player in this game but they must shed the skin of failure and to do so they need to create an enviroment where they can claim a GF victory. (one where the threat of RA hotdrops doesn't keep cap ships in hangers).

So GF should consolidate, shed regions find a reason to play again, manufacture a victorious situation and continue to play a role in eve. TBFH GF is the New ASCN perhaps corps like ARC, and DS1 have watered down the goons. I know that DS1 is the GF supercap building corp but really for all your yelling about supercaps your becoming relient on them.

So if Darius had a set, he would kick all pubbie corps from GF, Keep the best, Shed some regions, reset current blues, fight unl and TCF until they are out of the picture and then appraise the map to see where they can go next to have fun.

So my prediction is if GF grow balls the F part of the current SF is the next to die.


Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.08.27 07:30:00 - [97]
 

The NC are convinced it is MM which is going to get hit. This evening, apparently, according to NC leaders.

I guess that means they will be calling off their siege of TVN. Which I'm sure TRI will find amusing Very Happy

Squably
Minmatar
Invenio Inceptum
Posted - 2008.08.27 07:46:00 - [98]
 

I spotted Iron living in venal.

IRON C/D

Next target for sure will be Jita

Don ZOLA
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.27 07:46:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Rebellion
Edited by: Rebellion on 27/08/2008 06:31:00
lots of txt :P


i dont see any reason why should we and im sure my brosefs and bro***s (HI TOBRUK <3) in alliance agree with me. WE DONT WANT YOU TO TELL US WHAT TO DO ALL THE TIME!! WE WANT OUR FREEDOM AND I`LL LEAD PEOPLE OF PL TO IT! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!! LA RESISTANCE!! ETC

on a more serious note, wednesday`s on work can be really boring :/


Red Moon
Minmatar
Noob Zone Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.27 08:11:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Enkidu Uruksen
Originally by: PsychoBones
Originally by: T'Renn
Molotov Coalition must pay for what they did to my sister.


They did Smile

I declare thread win.


Second that Very Happy

PsychoBones II
Minmatar
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
Posted - 2008.08.27 08:53:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Red Moon
Originally by: Enkidu Uruksen
Originally by: PsychoBones
Originally by: T'Renn
Molotov Coalition must pay for what they did to my sister.


They did Smile

I declare thread win.


Second that Very Happy


Nice thread, I'll take it.

Von Zarovick
Amarr
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.08.27 09:30:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Richard Angevian
Originally by: Butter Dog
-A- are not a 'Russian' alliance!




Might not be 100% Russian (they do allow non Russian corps), but they are Russian dominated. And they seem to have gotten the most of RA as well.



wrong.

COL + PPN+ DKOD = non russian that is about 700 ppl

Col Callahan
Caldari
Boogie Monsters
Posted - 2008.08.27 11:25:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
The NC are convinced it is MM which is going to get hit. This evening, apparently, according to NC leaders.

I guess that means they will be calling off their siege of TVN. Which I'm sure TRI will find amusing Very Happy


Ether before or after Hydra space is taken care of I look forward to a good fight from who ever wishes to bring it.

Oh, and the further Bobs cap fleet is from there home, the better in my eyesTwisted Evil

Omeega
Amarr
Ab Origines
White Noise.
Posted - 2008.08.27 11:34:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Von Zarovick
Originally by: Richard Angevian
Originally by: Butter Dog
-A- are not a 'Russian' alliance!




Might not be 100% Russian (they do allow non Russian corps), but they are Russian dominated. And they seem to have gotten the most of RA as well.



wrong.

COL + PPN+ DKOD = non russian that is about 700 ppl


Shutup, we all know Collective is totaly worthless, Sith8 more than the rest!

Starfall Hammer
Amarr
Starfall Industries
Posted - 2008.08.27 11:41:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Rebellion
wall of text to get the whole of eve to attack bob


Seriously what would be the point? You would retreat to Delve again, sit in a system with 300+ people and 10 titans and the system cap set at 700, wait for everyone to get sick of being DD'd on entry and lagged out and go home then come out and declare another awesome victory.

w00t.

Carin K
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.27 11:44:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Rebellion
Edited by: Rebellion on 27/08/2008 06:31:00
Here's what I think:
*snipped for quote*


I vote this is an elaborate troll :colbert:
Nope, not pulling the wool over my eyes, no sirrey!

(Laughing)

Zeoliter
Caldari
Disco Biscuits
Posted - 2008.08.27 11:45:00 - [107]
 

Edited by: Zeoliter on 27/08/2008 11:45:46
Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Rebellion
wall of text to get the whole of eve to attack bob


Seriously what would be the point? You would retreat to Delve again, sit in a system with 300+ people and 10 titans and the system cap set at 700, wait for everyone to get sick of being DD'd on entry and lagged out and go home then come out and declare another awesome victory.

w00t.


Man, your breath stinks. Must be all that bull**** you're spouting. System cap at 700? Even the Goons must be cringing at your ignorance.

Sinder Ohm
Caldari
Demonic Corp
G00DFELLAS
Posted - 2008.08.27 11:46:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Rebellion
wall of text to get the whole of eve to attack bob


Seriously what would be the point? You would retreat to Delve again, sit in a system with 300+ people and 10 titans and the system cap set at 700, wait for everyone to get sick of being DD'd on entry and lagged out and go home then come out and declare another awesome victory.

w00t.


systems with sov 3 and multiple titans are impossable to take, oh wait..

HotSeat
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.27 11:53:00 - [109]
 

Move back to Delve? that would mean using those gate thingy's .... and it's been confirmed PL has forgotten how to do that Crying or Very sad

Sergeant Spot
Caldari
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.27 11:54:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Carin K
Originally by: Rebellion
Edited by: Rebellion on 27/08/2008 06:31:00
Here's what I think:
*snipped for quote*


I vote this is an elaborate troll :colbert:
Nope, not pulling the wool over my eyes, no sirrey!

(Laughing)


Not really a troll, more like a "wish".

If you read closely, you'll note he puts a priority on engaging in fleet battles.

Obviously the last thing BoB would want is epic fleet battles. We'd be defeated for sure... really, ...

...please????


Shadoo
Gallente
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.27 12:46:00 - [111]
 

Edited by: Shadoo on 27/08/2008 12:46:02
Originally by: Sergeant Spot

Not really a troll, more like a "wish".

If you read closely, you'll note he puts a priority on engaging in fleet battles.



I think the "troll" part was including PL in that list of alliance -- since everyone knows Pathetic Legion are Arsemode Lamers, incapable of doing anything but griefing a few lazy tired bums who don't care to check if the gate is camped.

Tristel
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.08.27 12:55:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Squably
I spotted Iron living in venal.

IRON C/D

Next target for sure will be Jita


C

6NJ to be exact, and the best bit yet. Last night 2 EXE/BOB gangs came by and made sure they were all tucked up tight in the local stations.

Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.27 15:43:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Shadoo
Edited by: Shadoo on 27/08/2008 12:46:02
Originally by: Sergeant Spot

Not really a troll, more like a "wish".

If you read closely, you'll note he puts a priority on engaging in fleet battles.



I think the "troll" part was including PL in that list of alliance -- since everyone knows Pathetic Legion are Arsemode Lamers, incapable of doing anything but griefing a few lazy tired bums who don't care to check if the gate is camped.

No this is the troll part,

Quote:
. This technically means to not allow the usual posters from PL or GS to become prominent and outspoken voices for the effort. Maybe get someone of Seleene's or Eddz's caliber to do the talking.


Because yeah we would want a leader who has to go on holiday or just plain doesn't have enough time to attend ops when the going gets tough. I'm sure his titan will come in useful, logged off in a pos never to be seen.

Malcore Trisus
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.27 17:51:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Narciss Sevar

Because yeah we would want a leader who has to go on holiday or just plain doesn't have enough time to attend ops when the going gets tough. I'm sure his titan will come in useful, logged off in a pos never to be seen.



You talking just about Delve, or the last two times in Fountain?

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.08.27 20:33:00 - [115]
 

well there are 100 GBC caps and 200 GBC support in X-7 at the moment, doing nothing

I assume BoB are waiting for NC to make a move on TVN, but I don't think even NC are that stupid

so please BoB, take this fleet and do something with it... I hear the BKG cynojammer is tasty

Very Happy

Kirana Si
Amarr
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.27 20:47:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
well there are 100 GBC caps and 200 GBC support in X-7 at the moment, doing nothing

I assume BoB are waiting for NC to make a move on TVN, but I don't think even NC are that stupid

so please BoB, take this fleet and do something with it... I hear the BKG cynojammer is tasty

Very Happy


I heard that BOB has actually over 9000 pilots on standby to hotdrop only on KOTH head Shocked

gamarus
Caldari
Ridiculously Proposed Guildname
Posted - 2008.08.27 20:49:00 - [117]
 

They have chosen C-FP instead where Pure. have dropped a couple of towers. Meanwhile in TVN.. mould grows on our tower defences.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.08.27 21:40:00 - [118]
 

Yeah GBC just hotdropped into C-F, NC ran and hid.

Few kills, nothing spectacular.


NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.27 21:47:00 - [119]
 

Edited by: NokNok on 27/08/2008 21:48:26
Originally by: Butter Dog
Yeah GBC just hotdropped into C-F, NC ran and hid.

Few kills, nothing spectacular.




After repping POS in TVN and counting our ammo for a few hours....
We jumpbridged in our support to C-F from TVN, had them bubbled perfectly for over 5 minuted with 300+ in local.
After that lag got the better of the dictors and a bunch got out.
30 sec later BoB came in. NC got veryyy lucky there.
Ohh and after that BoB shot us Laughing

Did I mention the whole NC is here now? Cool

Murtala
Caldari
Mushin Market
Posted - 2008.08.27 21:58:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
Yeah GBC just hotdropped into C-F, NC ran and hid.

Few kills, nothing spectacular.


everyone runs from the GBC, no shame in it. they got practice anyway


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