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Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.08.24 08:09:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 08:09:57

I found this video when looking around for Ubuntu 8.10 information. It shows a user who has set up his box to look a bit like Vista, but I think it looks even better myself. And the effects are of course a nice crowd pleaser.

Nice Ubuntu effects video

I wish the system looked like this out of the box to be honest, but it doesnt. You need to download stuff and set it up so it looks this good.

Oh, and the video is from March 2007 so this is nothing new for Linux users.

Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.08.24 08:45:00 - [2]
 

Doesn't take a lot from a base install to have these effects, he has done some tweaks such as replacing the snow effect images with leaves though. And I don't really think his intention was to make it like Vista Very Happy

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.08.24 08:46:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Titus Vulso
Doesn't take a lot from a base install to have these effects, he has done some tweaks such as replacing the snow effect images with leaves though. And I don't really think his intention was to make it like Vista Very Happy


I think it looks similar, but better. Smile

Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.08.24 08:50:00 - [4]
 

Pic

Thats me running 3 eve premium clients on Ubuntu with compiz enabled. It's the expo effect, those desktops are all rendered real time. It also runs really well although there is obviously a performance hit running 3 clients with a compositing window manager enabled.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.08.24 08:57:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Titus Vulso
Pic

Thats me running 3 eve premium clients on Ubuntu with compiz enabled. It's the expo effect, those desktops are all rendered real time. It also runs really well although there is obviously a performance hit running 3 clients with a compositing window manager enabled.


Pretty sweet. What graphics card do you use?

Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.08.24 08:58:00 - [6]
 

8800 GTS, so nothing fancy.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.08.24 09:01:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 09:01:59

Originally by: Titus Vulso
8800 GTS, so nothing fancy.


Cool. I have the 9800 GTX which is about the same speed. Also I have ordered a 24" screen. It really was about time. 19" doesnt cut it anymore.

I tried the Linux Eve version on a old computer but couldnt get it to work at all. Turns out I was trying with a Geforce 4200 graphics card which isnt supported. Embarassed


Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.08.24 09:17:00 - [8]
 

My advice would be to avoid the official linux client like the plague. I know CCP did it so they can say they officially support running Eve in a Linux environment but the windows client with Wine works so much better.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.08.24 10:41:00 - [9]
 

Does ubuntu work with ATI cards yet?

Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.08.24 10:51:00 - [10]
 

Yes of course they will work. Level of performance is another matter, I read that big improvements in the quality of their drivers have occurred in the last year or so. The last ATI card I purchased was about 5 years ago, due to their slipshod Linux support at the time.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.08.24 10:54:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Titus Vulso
Yes of course they will work. Level of performance is another matter, I read that big improvements in the quality of their drivers have occurred in the last year or so. The last ATI card I purchased was about 5 years ago, due to their slipshod Linux support at the time.


Last time I tried, it didn't work at all. Maximum resolution was 800x600, with colour corruption occurring if you tried to force it higher.

However, this was about a year ago with an older card and an older version of ubuntu. Maybe I'll try that wubi thing.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.08.24 13:07:00 - [12]
 


I downloaded Envy, picked what version of the Nvidia drivers I wanted (the latest) and clicked Next a couple of times. After reboot, hardware accelerated graphics at 1280x1024 works just like in Windows.

There has been much improvement in this area the last couple of years.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.08.24 13:18:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Jim McGregor

I downloaded Envy, picked what version of the Nvidia drivers I wanted (the latest) and clicked Next a couple of times. After reboot, hardware accelerated graphics at 1280x1024 works just like in Windows.

There has been much improvement in this area the last couple of years.



I don't think the latest nVidia drivers are going to be much help with an ATI card. Wink

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.08.24 13:36:00 - [14]
 

Okay I've installed 8.04 with wubi. It actually works at full resolution. I heard a while ago that ATI released specifications for their drivers which helped the Linux developers write better drivers. I guess it's true.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.08.24 13:37:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 13:39:33

Double post.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.08.24 13:39:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 13:42:57

Originally by: ReaperOfSly

I don't think the latest nVidia drivers are going to be much help with an ATI card. Wink


Envy has the same options for ATI cards. Wink


Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Okay I've installed 8.04 with wubi. It actually works at full resolution. I heard a while ago that ATI released specifications for their drivers which helped the Linux developers write better drivers. I guess it's true.


Nice. Dont forget to download all the updates using the Update Manager in the menus. Always good to get the latest stuff.

You want the compiz settings manager to play around with the graphics effects (spinning 3D cube, wobbly windows and all that stuff).

Open a terminal and type:

sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager

Then you have the GUI for the settings manager in the menu and can play around with it.


ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.08.24 13:46:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 24/08/2008 13:47:26
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 13:42:57

Originally by: ReaperOfSly

I don't think the latest nVidia drivers are going to be much help with an ATI card. Wink


Envy has the same options for ATI cards. Wink


Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Okay I've installed 8.04 with wubi. It actually works at full resolution. I heard a while ago that ATI released specifications for their drivers which helped the Linux developers write better drivers. I guess it's true.


Nice. Dont forget to download all the updates using the Update Manager in the menus. Always good to get the latest stuff.

You want the compiz settings manager to play around with the graphics effects (spinning 3D cube, wobbly windows and all that stuff).

Open a terminal and type:

sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager

Then you have the GUI for the settings manager in the menu and can play around with it.




Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package compizconfig-setting-manager

Crying or Very sad

Edit: never mind, typed it in wrong. That'll teach me for typing instead of copy-pasting Laughing

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.08.24 13:50:00 - [18]
 

Okay that's installed, how do I fire up the compiz GUI? I can't find it in any of the menus.

Ryysa
Mission Fail
Posted - 2008.08.24 14:02:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Ryysa on 24/08/2008 14:03:29
In the menu, under administration, there is "Advanced Desktop Settings".

Or advanced desktop effects settings... or similar.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.08.24 14:09:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Ryysa
Edited by: Ryysa on 24/08/2008 14:03:29
In the menu, under administration, there is "Advanced Desktop Settings".

Or advanced desktop effects settings... or similar.


Cheers. Was looking for "compiz" so didn't see it. Embarassed

Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.08.24 15:58:00 - [21]
 

There's also fusion-icon a handy little app which you can use to control compiz and its decorators from the panel tray. You can find it with synaptic or just enter sudo apt-get install fusion-icon at the terminal.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.08.25 16:01:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/08/2008 16:02:00

Its possible to make Ubuntu incredibly good looking, but it takes a while. But at least it gives you back the feeling of fun and enjoyment in operating systems.

Also having Linux knowledge can really help in the IT business. At my job, we run Unix for some stuff and I got a higher salary just because I could write simple Unix scripts that simplifies tasks for people. This is something you learn in a week...

So if you are in the IT business, Linux is good to know for your career as well. And its fun. You appreciate a operating system that just does what its told without protesting or asking if you are sure every 5 minutes.

Rubra
J. S. Bach In memoriam
Posted - 2008.08.25 17:18:00 - [23]
 

This thread is strange because I believe I already commented on it but I will add that I have heard great things from Ubuntu users so I hope that more people use it and stuff.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.08.25 19:14:00 - [24]
 

Having installed ubuntu on my PC, I'm actually finding it LESS stable than Windows. You heard me correctly - LESS stable.

I don't know what's causing it, but I keep getting crashes. The whole thing just locks up and I have to force reboot. Even the old ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work. I'm not even doing anything particularly demanding when it does this. Basically forum browsing on firefox.

CCP Tuxford

Posted - 2008.08.25 22:13:00 - [25]
 

I installed Ubuntu a while back and as far as I remember it was extremely smooth sailing. No "sorry your graphic/network/audio/whatever card isn't supported as I usually have. It's usually very doable to get this working but it usually involves intense googling and some knowhow.

Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 09:01:59

Originally by: Titus Vulso
8800 GTS, so nothing fancy.


Cool. I have the 9800 GTX which is about the same speed. Also I have ordered a 24" screen. It really was about time. 19" doesnt cut it anymore.

I tried the Linux Eve version on a old computer but couldnt get it to work at all. Turns out I was trying with a Geforce 4200 graphics card which isnt supported. Embarassed



Careful with monitors (and TVs for that matter). You can't really go smaller again. I've got a 24" monitor at work but have been mainly working from home on my 19" monitor. For the first month of two I felt really... claustrophobic is probably best describes it. Although I'm not claustrophobic so how would I know Razz

annoing
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2008.08.25 22:53:00 - [26]
 

I installed Ubuntu 8:04 Hardy Heron this morning via WUBI. I used WUBI because i'm not quite sure I want to take that full 'linux' step. TBH i'm still not sure after using it. I dl'ed the Eve linix client and it crashed within 10 minutes. I dont understand the synaptic functions at all Rolling Eyes and have absolutely no idea about installing via terminal things like compiz or anything else. Guess im lazy really. I half expect a nice little 'windows does it all for you' to appear but it doesnt.Crying or Very sad
Another reason for keeping my windows xp is the amount of games I play. Again, i'm too lazy to see if there are linux versions of COD etc (though I suspect there isnt). But overall, I like what I see, I like the feel of it and when the x64 version on CD arrives I will install it on my spare comp and run it all the time on that (its not a gaming pc so it wont matter).
The documentaion for linux takes it as read that you are 'command line' savy or some such thing. As im not and as im too old to really learn shuff maybe linux wont be the thing for me ... but for my kids .. well lets hope they get it more than me ugh


CCP Atropos

Posted - 2008.08.25 23:14:00 - [27]
 

Wow. My Ubuntu experience was hideous. I had a Ubuntu box for testing of the Linux EVE client, and I attempted to get Beryl to work on it; it made my head implode. And after it didn't work and I removed it, my nVidia drivers had disappeared and would no longer give me a decent resolution.

I've no idea what made my experience of Ubuntu so different, but it honestly didn't inspire me to try again. Windows might be a piece of ****, but I know where I stand when I want to install stuff and just get it working.

Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.08.25 23:21:00 - [28]
 

Annoing you'll get out of it, what you put in. Don't be put off thinking it's too difficult, it's not. As for games, if they're your main concern you really do have to wonder if Linux is the right thing for you. However, Wine can now run a lot if Windows games well, Eve for example as you can see in the pic I linked above. The wine site has a list of windows applications including games with information about how well they run. If you're interested in checking, google for "wine appdb".

ps. I tried the official eve client not long after it was released. Hated it, not being able to copy/paste between other apps, problem with the applications focus, no premium graphics and so on. Use the windows client with Wine.

Benco97
Gallente
Terraprobe Dynamics
Posted - 2008.08.25 23:35:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Benco97 on 25/08/2008 23:39:25
I used Wubi to install Hardy Heron onto this computer alongside my Vista install, the setup all went very smoothly and I was impressed compared to what I've seen Ubuntu be like before. I did have one error on installation completion where there were several IRQ collisions however this was a hardware issue caused by my motherboard just being an ass and was easily resolved.

Now the crux of my problem really, just how are we supposed to know to type things like "sudo apt-get install blahblah-blah"? I know to you people that understand linux things like this must come naturally and I must appear stupid but I can assure you it isn't that I have an aversion to command line interpreters or anything of the sort, my first computer was a CPC464 but even that came with a MANUAL which contained all the magic words inside it.
Where do I find this sort of thing for Ubuntu? And no, I don't mean a HTML file written by some snotty-nosed coder who thinks along the lines of "Well if I can do it then I don't see why I should have to explain it to you"
Seriously, How is a newbie supposed to know that they must invoke "Sudo" and ask it to perform an "apt-get" and "install" procedure upon a certain file? The way I understand it is that it works in a very similar way to the "installer" app for ipod touch and iPhones, there is a collected library of applications and you tell the computer to go there and get "Blah" for you, that's a great idea but you know what? Even my ipod doesn't just leave me to guess at the names of what I would like to get, it lists everything in the main library, Surely there is some sort of listing for what is stored in the wonderful place it is that "apt-get install" scampers off to and searches?

Anyway.. ok.. more than half of what I've written is probably wrong and idiotic or even offensive to several major religions and for this I apologise, I am tired.

Edit- See what I've gone and done? I put all this guff in the wrong thread.. Well that's just ballsed it all up hasn't it.

Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.08.25 23:41:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Titus Vulso on 25/08/2008 23:42:45
You don't sound stupid at all, I remember how I felt when first starting out. Linux has built up some great and very helpful communities, Ubuntu especially. If you go to ubuntuforums.org you can be sure that there are many people there eager to help you.

Oh and synaptic which comes installed with Ubuntu, is like a gui frontend for apt which will let you search and give you descriptions for all of the applications listed in your repos.


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