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Piramon Rakesk
Caldari
Federation of Freeminds
Posted - 2008.08.23 07:56:00 - [1]
 

* Is anyone defending BOB space now?
* Why don't AAA and TCF just enter from the south to period basis while it's undefended and end BOB's northern campaign in an instant?
* Do AAA and TCF also want to get rid of NC ?
* Do they want BOB to grow stronger and stronger by grabbing new moons in the north?
* Everybody knows its impossible to defend everywhere, especially locations this far from each other. BOB has seen it in old ASCN space and pulled their forces.

and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.

Mordred Shadow
Minmatar
Blue Republic
Posted - 2008.08.23 07:59:00 - [2]
 

I have been wondering this ever since the campaign was announced.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

What are BoB's thoughts on this?

Dianabolic
Gallente
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.23 08:06:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Piramon Rakesk
and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.



haha, of course you're not.

Emrod
Amarr
Legion Du Lys
Posted - 2008.08.23 08:08:00 - [4]
 

AAA and TCF shoot eachother like IAC.


Your intell is weak.

very weak.


Like my typo Very Happy

Zerge Bacon
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
Posted - 2008.08.23 08:08:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Zerge Bacon on 23/08/2008 08:09:13

Emrod
Amarr
Legion Du Lys
Posted - 2008.08.23 08:09:00 - [6]
 

Oh and like the fact he never metionned Goonswarm, finally one of the few in COAD who is be truly inform about that the fact we are disband since 1 week ago.


true story.

EnacheV2
Minmatar
Rubbish and Garbage Removal
Legiunea ROmana
Posted - 2008.08.23 08:15:00 - [7]
 

As many people already said it, nope, they aren't coming to save you.

As about why your dreams don't come true, look how much work GBC has to do against a mediocre coalition to get through their cyno jammed systems.

Do you think any sane alliance leader want to put BoB in the position of getting free kills as defender in their sov systems ?

Lord WarATron
Amarr
Shadow Warri0rs
Posted - 2008.08.23 08:20:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Lord WarATron on 23/08/2008 08:20:28
Originally by: Piramon Rakesk
* Is anyone defending BOB space now?
* Why don't AAA and TCF just enter from the south to period basis while it's undefended and end BOB's northern campaign in an instant?
* Do AAA and TCF also want to get rid of NC ?
* Do they want BOB to grow stronger and stronger by grabbing new moons in the north?
* Everybody knows its impossible to defend everywhere, especially locations this far from each other. BOB has seen it in old ASCN space and pulled their forces.

and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.




1. Post with main.
2. Nobody with any credibility likes the NC concept. I think ASCN has more fans than NC ever had. (/me reads Butter Dog's historic posts!)
3. Asking why "AAA/TCF" is not helping NC is exactly the same as when ASCN members were asking why D2/Iron etc etc were not helping.


Mordred Shadow
Minmatar
Blue Republic
Posted - 2008.08.23 08:58:00 - [9]
 

As I am trying to understand nullsec warfare could someone explain a few key points to me in regards to this matter?

Would most of the BoB armada be able to jump back fairly fast if under serious attack? Would they instead log in alt characters who are already in the Delve area? Would they jump clone back and hop in different ships?

If a large enemy alliance surprise BoB by arriving with very little notice, how fast could they take down a cyno jammer such as the one in NOL (understanding that this is not the front line anymore, but keeping it simple). Could damage be done to systems / sovereignty while BoB was unprepared?

As you see I have all the lingo of 0.0 warfare with very little understanding of it. CAOD has taught me a lot, but most of it has been meaningless banter.

Cheers,

Mordred

SirMolle
Amarr
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:03:00 - [10]
 

We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.

Goberth Ludwig
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:11:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Mordred Shadow
As I am trying to understand nullsec warfare could someone explain a few key points to me in regards to this matter?

Would most of the BoB armada be able to jump back fairly fast if under serious attack? Would they instead log in alt characters who are already in the Delve area? Would they jump clone back and hop in different ships?

If a large enemy alliance surprise BoB by arriving with very little notice, how fast could they take down a cyno jammer such as the one in NOL (understanding that this is not the front line anymore, but keeping it simple). Could damage be done to systems / sovereignty while BoB was unprepared?

As you see I have all the lingo of 0.0 warfare with very little understanding of it. CAOD has taught me a lot, but most of it has been meaningless banter.

Cheers,

Mordred


Generally speaking, with a big enough fleet you can usually take down a cyno jammer before an alliance can gather and react, but then to threaten sovereignty you have to take down POSes which is a long task giving whoever is under attack enough time to organize a proper defence.

- Gob

Kirana Si
Amarr
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:13:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Mordred Shadow

If a large enemy alliance surprise BoB by arriving with very little notice....
Cheers,

Mordred


With every1 and their Mother having spys all over the map, surprises are very limited Wink

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:17:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Lord WarATron

2. Nobody with any credibility likes the NC concept.


How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?

Kirana Si
Amarr
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:24:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Lord WarATron

2. Nobody with any credibility likes the NC concept.


How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?


Understand now ?

MONOCERUS
Amarr
Strength Of New Ubik
Rebellion Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:26:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Piramon Rakesk
don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.



are u sure in this mr. alt?

Illiya
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:27:00 - [16]
 

because more pos warfare poopsocking doesn't sound like any fun at all to anyone anymore, whatever

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:29:00 - [17]
 

maybe AAA are waiting for a bribe Smile i'm sure NC could afford a couple of titans to pay for a little distraction in Delve to keep BoB jump cloning back and forth

seriously tho, i think people are enjoying the show, plus it's kindof a bother moving capitals that far, let alone enough capitals to pose a threat to the hardware BoB is likely to have in reserve, if NC wants a distraction they'll probably have to pay for one, and probably should.

as for goons, since theadj left for snigg i'd be surprised if there was anyone left in NC they actually like ;d

Selk Cantor
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:38:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Fred0
How is that possible considering we have 80% of EVE blue... They must like us no?


Now that was pretty funny after being up all night. I guess its because your friends like you least for stealing all their isk to build Cutting Edge caps.

As for the original poster, its slow enough to take one heavilly pos'd system. It's not like you can just waltz into a region and take it overnight or even when all the pos's come out of reinforced. Even lightly defended or undefended (ref: MC circa 2008) take time and numbers.

Mordred Shadow
Minmatar
Blue Republic
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:38:00 - [19]
 

Oh wait, was I meant to say "FIRST!" in the first response?

I'm really very new to all of this Very Happy

Machine Delta
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.08.23 09:44:00 - [20]
 

The average RSF member isn't going to be fooled by sugarcoating a large, typical POS warfare campaign with some silly slogan or catchphrase. Hence, this sort of thing isn't likely, for us.


NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:15:00 - [21]
 

They still ain't coming to save you Laughing

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:29:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: NokNok
They still ain't coming to save you Laughing


They do not have to. I want to see what happens with Tri, when BoB is not around to hold your epic epeen.

It will be interesting and amusing to see, how fast you will fail.

Carin K
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:32:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Carin K on 23/08/2008 10:32:01
There was a 12 man gate camp in nol-mi last night so pandemics invasion of bob space (owait, wez already in there space liek) was delayed by 2 further months.

Edit: there was actually a 12 man gate camp there :)

papaPadla
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:32:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: SirMolle
We gladly invite any and all that wants to take a potshot at delve with open arms. That no one has done it yet, is tbh unfortunate, since all the logistics and planning we done for that scenario is getting to waste :/

So please, come hit delve.



This... FTW

Ackaroth
Gallente
Plundering Penguins
Anarchy.
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:37:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
Originally by: NokNok
They still ain't coming to save you Laughing


They do not have to. I want to see what happens with Tri, when BoB is not around to hold your epic epeen.

It will be interesting and amusing to see, how fast you will fail.


Without brother bob to hold our epeens we will be blobbed out of Vale. We know this, you know this, anyone who doesnt has been living under a rock or avoiding those friggen TRI threads on this very CAOD. But since we haven't been yet, humor us and throw us another few thousand kills, or hell, lose half your alliance membership over our presence.

Tempest Kane
Amarr
Reikoku
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:38:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
*snip*... when BoB is not around to hold your epic epeen.

It will be interesting and amusing to see, how fast you will fail.


Sure, like any good NPC or Roid Field, its important to allow enougth time for the target to respawn, otherwise we would run out of folks to farm/shoot (-:

I hope the NC rises again and again like the phonixe from the flame, i like playing domino's with the failure cascade mod.

NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:39:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon

They do not have to. I want to see what happens with Tri, when BoB is not around to hold your epic epeen.
It will be interesting and amusing to see, how fast you will fail.


Define fail please.
I highly doubt we fail to reach our goals, which are to shoot spaceships and make the NC's life miserable.
Ohh and some smacking too ofcourse. The stations are just a means to and end.

Quisten
Amarr
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:44:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Piramon Rakesk
* Is anyone defending BOB space now?



Yeah. I am.

Schani Kratnorr
Amarr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:45:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Piramon Rakesk
* Is anyone defending BOB space now?
* Why don't AAA and TCF just enter from the south to period basis while it's undefended and end BOB's northern campaign in an instant?
* Do AAA and TCF also want to get rid of NC ?
* Do they want BOB to grow stronger and stronger by grabbing new moons in the north?
* Everybody knows its impossible to defend everywhere, especially locations this far from each other. BOB has seen it in old ASCN space and pulled their forces.

and no I am not a NC alt begging for help, but I am just curious why AAA and TCF watching this and doing nothing, don't they know if BOB becomes stronger they'll be next to go.


Possible reasons include:
1. It's too far (could easily cost billions of isk just in fuel to get from the north to the south.

2. With fights nearby, why move?
Once players start abandoning confrontations with other players in favor of shooting at controls towers , I think we can all go play WoW...

3. Chances are that GBC/BoB are all expecting this obivious move, and have bothered to train infomorph psychology.



With towers the way they are, even a total dismantling of all all in one region can eventually be rectified. So why bother shooting them in the first place, if it is not to get your opponent to fight.
Sure the prestige and potential profit of moons might tempt. But since most players want to shoot other players and not towers, neither of us really needs to move.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.23 10:45:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Machine Delta
The average RSF member isn't going to be fooled by sugarcoating a large, typical POS warfare campaign with some silly slogan or catchphrase. Hence, this sort of thing isn't likely, for us.




Don't RISE to his trolling, my dear.


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