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Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.09.03 15:32:00 - [1261]
 

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Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2008.09.03 15:33:00 - [1262]
 

Originally by: Drunk Driver
[linebreak][linebreak][linebreak]Someone please sell Ki An some isk for real money so he can buy a clue.[linebreak][linebreak][linebreak][linebreak]Laughing[linebreak][linebreak][linebreak][linebreak].


No, I'm asking for your price. You sell isk. You give me a price quote.

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.09.03 15:43:00 - [1263]
 

Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/09/2008 15:45:19
Originally by: Call'Da Poleece

Assessing peoples arguments based on their alt status is daft, especially in game where 2/3's of the characters in it are alts.

And obviously because I am not posting with my main I must be a carebear. Such is the proclimation of the mighty no risk high sec gankers, I must not post again! ... or should I just keep on doing it to annoy them... decisions decisions



You can draw a lot of information from you posting with an alt yes.

You dont want the drivel you come out with to be attatched to your main.

Why?

Because you fear your main or your mains corp will suffer repercussions for what you say. You are scared i will come and pop you, or wardec you.

Which ive never done. Anyone who posts with their main (or posts with an alt and clearly indicates who their main is if the account is down for example) deserves enough respect to not come gunning for them for chatting on a forum.

Its the reason I havent popped idiots like ExLegion for example.

SKUNK

Pithecanthropus
Posted - 2008.09.03 16:03:00 - [1264]
 

Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: Pithecanthropus

Perhaps if you pvp'ed vs pvp'ers for once, you'd know what pvp is and see that CCP has provided a lot of space and features for you. Get off your high horse and play the game. DONE.


DONE? Made you feel big saying that,Inappropriate content.Applebabe CCP has provided lots of stuff for me. Now they're taking it all away to cater to whimps like you. I've pvp'd with all kinds of people including other pvpers.

But you still don't know what PvP means.


OMG Rolling Eyes
First, do you REALLY want to call me a whimp? When I'm out in 0.0 pvping hardcore while also participating in FW? Second, I don't look to highsec as my pvp palette... YOU do. Get off the ferris wheel and stop playing around with the kids. CCP has taken nothing away from you. NOTHING that stops you from pvping. Oh wait, is it perhaps you can't be near invincible now? Is it because you have to actually put some effort into pvp? CCP made changes and is making new changes to better the game... once you ralize that they simply stir the pot to fix the lopsided advantages playes tend to lean towards, you'll begin to see this game as a whole and not just your selfish agenda. The devs modify simply the trends that become overpowered and offset the entire balance of Eve... its always been adapt or die.

Get a clue before you come here ranting with arrogance.

Polly Prissypantz
Dingleberry Appreciation Society
Posted - 2008.09.04 00:48:00 - [1265]
 

Originally by: Le Skunk
You can draw a lot of information from you posting with an alt yes.

You dont want the drivel you come out with to be attatched to your main.

Why?

Because you fear your main or your mains corp will suffer repercussions for what you say. You are scared i will come and pop you, or wardec you.


I post with an alt because I fear that people might start thinking my main is actually intelligent, and may start expecting him to make decisions or take on actual responsibility. Shocked

Kwedaras
Amarr
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.09.06 09:17:00 - [1266]
 

The Drawingboard

September 4th 2008

Agent Orange
This is a total overhaul from the ground up of the entire agent missions system/concept slightly more ambitious than the previous entry, but much needed.




Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
Posted - 2008.09.06 09:26:00 - [1267]
 

Originally by: Kwedaras
The Drawingboard

September 4th 2008

Agent Orange
This is a total overhaul from the ground up of the entire agent missions system/concept slightly more ambitious than the previous entry, but much needed.



Fo real? Linky plz cuz I'm bad at searching.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.09.06 09:33:00 - [1268]
 

Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Kwedaras
The Drawingboard

September 4th 2008

Agent Orange
This is a total overhaul from the ground up of the entire agent missions system/concept slightly more ambitious than the previous entry, but much needed.



Fo real? Linky plz cuz I'm bad at searching.



Here. It is full of win.

Polly Prissypantz
Dingleberry Appreciation Society
Posted - 2008.09.06 11:07:00 - [1269]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Kwedaras
The Drawingboard

September 4th 2008

Agent Orange
This is a total overhaul from the ground up of the entire agent missions system/concept slightly more ambitious than the previous entry, but much needed.


Fo real? Linky plz cuz I'm bad at searching.


Here. It is full of win.

Pfft. The Drawing Board. Don't expect to see any of this stuff implemented within the next year, by which time I expect the 60d GTC to cost $100.00US at the current rate of increase.

Kwedaras
Amarr
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.09.06 11:19:00 - [1270]
 

Originally by: Polly Prissypantz
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Kwedaras
The Drawingboard

September 4th 2008

Agent Orange
This is a total overhaul from the ground up of the entire agent missions system/concept slightly more ambitious than the previous entry, but much needed.


Fo real? Linky plz cuz I'm bad at searching.


Here. It is full of win.

Pfft. The Drawing Board. Don't expect to see any of this stuff implemented within the next year, by which time I expect the 60d GTC to cost $100.00US at the current rate of increase.


well, thats better than nothing.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.09.06 11:56:00 - [1271]
 

Originally by: Polly Prissypantz
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Kwedaras
The Drawingboard

September 4th 2008

Agent Orange
This is a total overhaul from the ground up of the entire agent missions system/concept slightly more ambitious than the previous entry, but much needed.


Fo real? Linky plz cuz I'm bad at searching.


Here. It is full of win.

Pfft. The Drawing Board. Don't expect to see any of this stuff implemented within the next year, by which time I expect the 60d GTC to cost $100.00US at the current rate of increase.


That's OK I'm paying by subscription, which I estimate to remain exactly the same at the current rate of increase.

Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.09.06 12:55:00 - [1272]
 



WHINY PIRATE REVENGE THREAD GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND....

Well, you get the idea.




.


Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
Posted - 2008.09.06 14:04:00 - [1273]
 

Originally by: Drunk Driver


WHINY PIRATE REVENGE THREAD GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND....

Well, you get the idea.




.




No. Maybe if you put it in all caps we would understand you.

Oh, and more line breaks. We need a lot more of those.

Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
Posted - 2008.09.06 16:48:00 - [1274]
 

Maybe its me....I seem to be the only one in my corp that doesnt fly a raven to do level 3-4 missions. Not saying I cant fly one...I just chose to use Gallente ships for mission running.

Take to account Rail guns have a varible dps, and they tend to miss. And only the Megatron has more then one launcher slot.

I do this for the challange...yes I tuck my tail and run during a couple of the harder level fours...But I get the job done.

Instead of nerfing these missions, or moving them out to low sec. Why dont just restrict them in lines with FW? Or maybe NERF the "Easy" button Ravens have?

I dont miss the F1-F7, and read a book days...That is why I stoped doing missions two years ago, boaring as hell. I can see why everyone is saying "Risk VS Reward" But try doing these missions with out missle spam.....Rolling Eyes




Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.09.06 17:28:00 - [1275]
 

Originally by: Roshan longshot
Maybe its me....I seem to be the only one in my corp that doesnt fly a raven to do level 3-4 missions. Not saying I cant fly one...I just chose to use Gallente ships for mission running.

Take to account Rail guns have a varible dps, and they tend to miss. And only the Megatron has more then one launcher slot.

I do this for the challange...yes I tuck my tail and run during a couple of the harder level fours...But I get the job done.

Instead of nerfing these missions, or moving them out to low sec. Why dont just restrict them in lines with FW? Or maybe NERF the "Easy" button Ravens have?

I dont miss the F1-F7, and read a book days...That is why I stoped doing missions two years ago, boaring as hell. I can see why everyone is saying "Risk VS Reward" But try doing these missions with out missle spam.....Rolling Eyes






Or instead of crying "NERF" as the one solution to rule them all and in the darkness bind them, maybe we could consider the root cause of the problem that incidentally makes cruise ravens so effective: slow, stupid, predictable rats.

Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.09.06 17:53:00 - [1276]
 

While the OP's attempts to mathematically prove that the risk v. reward of highsec is screwed up fails, he's right that it is too safe for the amount of cash you can make there.

Move L4s to lowsec and in the process revitalize lowsec piracy (which is fairly dead atm) as well as maybe increasing ore quality there, keep 0.0 as it is, and limit highsec to mid-quality L3s.

Also, someone in an NPC corp shouldn't be able to fly a freighter, BC, or BS, tbh. Maybe even mining barges or exhumers, it would force out the macroers in a very elegant way.

Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
Posted - 2008.09.06 18:01:00 - [1277]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Roshan longshot
Maybe its me....I seem to be the only one in my corp that doesnt fly a raven to do level 3-4 missions. Not saying I cant fly one...I just chose to use Gallente ships for mission running.

Take to account Rail guns have a varible dps, and they tend to miss. And only the Megatron has more then one launcher slot.

I do this for the challange...yes I tuck my tail and run during a couple of the harder level fours...But I get the job done.

Instead of nerfing these missions, or moving them out to low sec. Why dont just restrict them in lines with FW? Or maybe NERF the "Easy" button Ravens have?

I dont miss the F1-F7, and read a book days...That is why I stoped doing missions two years ago, boaring as hell. I can see why everyone is saying "Risk VS Reward" But try doing these missions with out missle spam.....Rolling Eyes






Or instead of crying "NERF" as the one solution to rule them all and in the darkness bind them, maybe we could consider the root cause of the problem that incidentally makes cruise ravens so effective: slow, stupid, predictable rats.


And that would do what? Unbalance the mission so its impossible to do? 500hp per hit with a cruise missle compared to 85-400hp with a rail gun...

Drones used to be Gallente primary weapon...or at least their version of missles...mission rats have a habit of unlocking you and killing your drones now.

Mission rats are useing all their mods now...two years ago what was just loot, is now being used against you.

Mission rats come in waves, with scramblers, webbers, and sensor dampners...

But I can max AB out to 100k with a raven and have a couple of dozen missles in the air...with out being touched by a mission rat...

No the Raven has a big red "Easy" button...It always had one...and has never been 'balanced' to match the other races...not like it should have been. Missles got nerfed, yeah. But 45 days of training is all it takes to get back the easy button, or close to how it was before the nerf.

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.09.06 18:13:00 - [1278]
 

Edited by: Le Skunk on 06/09/2008 18:12:58
Originally by: Roshan longshot


But I can max AB out to 100k with a raven and have a couple of dozen missles in the air...with out being touched by a mission rat...

No the Raven has a big red "Easy" button...It always had one...and has never been 'balanced' to match the other races...not like it should have been. Missles got nerfed, yeah. But 45 days of training is all it takes to get back the easy button, or close to how it was before the nerf.


Indeed the hordes of untouched *non specific place of birth* 2 month old isk farmers with stupid names, you see mass undocking and churning through mission 23-7 in all the mission hubs are not flying CNR's because they like to look pimp.

SKUNK

Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
Posted - 2008.09.06 18:18:00 - [1279]
 

wow ... this is still going on...


but yeah, we all know what happens moving lvl 4 to low sec XD


the whiners will complain about how theres STILL no targets and moving lvl 3 into low sec...


and yeah, this discussion is moot...


go to the fanfest and kidnapp a dev....


do it!!!!!


but yeah, is pointless arguing...


who cares what some OCD guy make in high...

you make alot more in 0.0 ...


and yeah,

try running a protection racket XD

protect mission runners in low for a fee...

it works sometimes.. if you can butter them up and deliever.....


Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.09.06 18:19:00 - [1280]
 

Originally by: Mika Meroko
wow ... this is still going on...


but yeah, we all know what happens moving lvl 4 to low sec XD


the whiners will complain about how theres STILL no targets and moving lvl 3 into low sec...






Can you point to where there are whines about this now?


Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.09.06 18:21:00 - [1281]
 

Originally by: Roshan longshot
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Roshan longshot
Maybe its me....I seem to be the only one in my corp that doesnt fly a raven to do level 3-4 missions. Not saying I cant fly one...I just chose to use Gallente ships for mission running.

Take to account Rail guns have a varible dps, and they tend to miss. And only the Megatron has more then one launcher slot.

I do this for the challange...yes I tuck my tail and run during a couple of the harder level fours...But I get the job done.

Instead of nerfing these missions, or moving them out to low sec. Why dont just restrict them in lines with FW? Or maybe NERF the "Easy" button Ravens have?

I dont miss the F1-F7, and read a book days...That is why I stoped doing missions two years ago, boaring as hell. I can see why everyone is saying "Risk VS Reward" But try doing these missions with out missle spam.....Rolling Eyes






Or instead of crying "NERF" as the one solution to rule them all and in the darkness bind them, maybe we could consider the root cause of the problem that incidentally makes cruise ravens so effective: slow, stupid, predictable rats.


And that would do what? Unbalance the mission so its impossible to do? 500hp per hit with a cruise missle compared to 85-400hp with a rail gun...




Oh good lord Rolling Eyes

Think man, think. Try and think of factors that favour guns over missiles.


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