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Lithium Star
Gallente
The Inf1dels
Posted - 2008.08.16 02:11:00 - [1]
 

So I finnaly killed one of those executioners running implants through lowsec.


2008.08.16 01:44:00

Victim: ******
Corp: State War Academy
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Executioner
System: ******
Security: 0.3
Damage Taken: 858

Involved parties:

Name: Lithium Star (laid the final blow)
Security: -10.0
Corp: DEATH'S LEGION
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Hyperion
Weapon: Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Damage Done: 858

Destroyed items:

Neural Boost - Improved, Qty: 25 (Cargo)
Neural Boost - Standard, Qty: 9 (Cargo)
Memory Augmentation - Improved, Qty: 15 (Cargo)
Memory Augmentation - Standard, Qty: 11 (Cargo)

Dropped items:

Cybernetic Subprocessor - Improved, Qty: 14 (Cargo)
Social Adaptation Chip - Improved, Qty: 7 (Cargo)
Cybernetic Subprocessor - Standard, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Ocular Filter - Improved, Qty: 22 (Cargo)
Ocular Filter - Standard, Qty: 5 (Cargo)

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2008.08.16 02:22:00 - [2]
 

For this one I'm really gonna need a screenshot or killmail, despite the forum rules. I want to believe though.

Ratey
Posted - 2008.08.16 02:22:00 - [3]
 

Nice one!

Did they just try to align to warp, or did they try MWD out of range first, or even attempt a mwd cloak align warp?

thanks

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.08.16 02:29:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ratey
Nice one!

Did they just try to align to warp, or did they try MWD out of range first, or even attempt a mwd cloak align warp?

thanks


you smartbomb them on the warp into the out gate

Also congrats lith :)

Dirty sneaking carebears

SKUNK

Lithium Star
Gallente
The Inf1dels
Posted - 2008.08.16 02:30:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Dirk Magnum
For this one I'm really gonna need a screenshot or killmail, despite the forum rules. I want to believe though.


check corp killboard in Death's Legion corp info (ingame)

Ratey
Posted - 2008.08.16 02:56:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Ratey
Nice one!
Did they just try to align to warp, or did they try MWD out of range first, or even attempt a mwd cloak align warp?
thanks

you smartbomb them on the warp into the out gate



That's my point. I'm talking about tactics to minimize the effects of SB employment.

If you just sit there and try to warp, even with good agility, chances are high of getting popped. But it you initiate speed and MWD you have the chance of getting out of range of multiple SBs.

Even if the SBs are gang activated you have the chance of a time seqence and only take damage from a single SB and be out of range before the rest quickly follow in sequence.

I've survived large faction SBs from a carrier this way, and only took heavy shield damage.

Now if you just blind warp into a gate in low sec, then you're just lazy and will learn the hard way.

SurrenderMonkey
Posted - 2008.08.16 03:12:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: SurrenderMonkey on 16/08/2008 03:12:54
Originally by: Ratey
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Ratey
Nice one!
Did they just try to align to warp, or did they try MWD out of range first, or even attempt a mwd cloak align warp?
thanks

you smartbomb them on the warp into the out gate



That's my point. I'm talking about tactics to minimize the effects of SB employment.

If you just sit there and try to warp, even with good agility, chances are high of getting popped. But it you initiate speed and MWD you have the chance of getting out of range of multiple SBs.

Even if the SBs are gang activated you have the chance of a time seqence and only take damage from a single SB and be out of range before the rest quickly follow in sequence.

I've survived large faction SBs from a carrier this way, and only took heavy shield damage.

Now if you just blind warp into a gate in low sec, then you're just lazy and will learn the hard way.


....You smartbomb them....on the warp...into...the gate. Before they jump. They're arriving at the gate, not departing it. They're not MWDing, they're not cloaking. They're desperately mashing the jump button.

Ratey
Posted - 2008.08.16 03:55:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: SurrenderMonkey

....You smartbomb them....on the warp...into...the gate. Before they jump. They're arriving at the gate, not departing it. They're not MWDing, they're not cloaking. They're desperately mashing the jump button.

Ah right, thanks.

I know how to work around that too. But I don't want to spoil this guys gig.

Er, how much isk should I ask for to NOT post the counter tactic?

Kavu
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.08.16 04:05:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Lithium Star
So I finnaly killed one of those executioners running implants through lowsec.


2008.08.16 01:44:00

Victim: ******
Corp: State War Academy
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Executioner
System: ******
Security: 0.3
Damage Taken: 858

Involved parties:

Name: Lithium Star (laid the final blow)
Security: -10.0
Corp: DEATH'S LEGION
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Hyperion
Weapon: Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Damage Done: 858

Destroyed items:

Neural Boost - Improved, Qty: 25 (Cargo)
Neural Boost - Standard, Qty: 9 (Cargo)
Memory Augmentation - Improved, Qty: 15 (Cargo)
Memory Augmentation - Standard, Qty: 11 (Cargo)

Dropped items:

Cybernetic Subprocessor - Improved, Qty: 14 (Cargo)
Social Adaptation Chip - Improved, Qty: 7 (Cargo)
Cybernetic Subprocessor - Standard, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Ocular Filter - Improved, Qty: 22 (Cargo)
Ocular Filter - Standard, Qty: 5 (Cargo)


can i haz some implants?

Judas Jones
Amarr
UK Freedom Fighters
Focused Intentions
Posted - 2008.08.16 04:22:00 - [10]
 

Hmmm, very lucky kill.

not much the guy could of done about it, if it was the Strategic, in-warp Smartbomb tatic, often used in low sec.

I'm torn on this one, wonder if i would of survived, if i was transporting billions of iskies, in small objects, I would of used either a Covert OP's or a HAC, I'm sure the HAC would of survived the SB's but I probably, 80% of the time would of been in the Covert Op's mashing that jump buton to.

Laughing

Congratulations on the catch, one in a million Exclamation

Clair Bear
Ursine Research and Production
Posted - 2008.08.16 05:56:00 - [11]
 

Covops has a pretty good chance of surviving a warp directly to gate in lowsec. Not that any covops or pilot would ever do that with non-empty local, even in lowsec.

Remember you're flying in cloaked. It's a lot harder to time bomb activation when the target is invisible -- it's hard enough to time it just right with a guy appearing on your overview.

Oh, and a helios has plenty of mid slots for passive shield resist modules, leaving lows available for DCU, nanofiber and istab. If you do a lot of lowsec travel it might be worth fitting shield resist rigs instead of agility ones.

I'm not willing to bet hundreds of M in loot on it but I'm pretty sure mine could survive an SB cycle from one BS.

Oh, OP: congrats on the loot and thanks.



techzer0
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.08.16 06:32:00 - [12]
 

oh snap... i hate u Laughing

Stephanie Jones
Posted - 2008.08.16 06:48:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Stephanie Jones on 16/08/2008 06:48:40
Edited by: Stephanie Jones on 16/08/2008 06:48:24
Originally by: Ratey

Er, how much isk should I ask for to NOT post the counter tactic?



You mean the one where you warp to an object that's not on the gate-gate line and then warp to the out gate from that object, effectively dropping you out of warp an an unexpected angle, out of range of the smartbombs?
You should probably charge a ****load...

Willow Whisp
Sadist Faction
Posted - 2008.08.16 07:04:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Stephanie Jones
You mean the one where you warp to an object that's not on the gate-gate line and then warp to the out gate from that object, effectively dropping you out of warp an an unexpected angle, out of range of the smartbombs?
You should probably charge a ****load...


Nah, he probably means the one where you bookmark a spot that's unaligned and off grid, and use THAT as the warp-in point. I bet you nobody's thought of that one before. Yeah, definitely lots. YARRRR!!

Nadjar
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.08.16 07:09:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Nadjar on 16/08/2008 07:10:39
hmm

Rawrior
Gallente
Origin.
Posted - 2008.08.16 07:35:00 - [16]
 

noes :< someones is stealin mah farmers



techzer0
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.08.16 09:13:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Stephanie Jones
Edited by: Stephanie Jones on 16/08/2008 06:48:40
Edited by: Stephanie Jones on 16/08/2008 06:48:24
Originally by: Ratey

Er, how much isk should I ask for to NOT post the counter tactic?



You mean the one where you warp to an object that's not on the gate-gate line and then warp to the out gate from that object, effectively dropping you out of warp an an unexpected angle, out of range of the smartbombs?
You should probably charge a ****load...
That's why this works best in a system with a 60+ au warp to the out gate with no other warpable objects around... just like setting up a sucker bubble in 0.0 Very Happy

Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Kumovi
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2008.08.16 13:47:00 - [18]
 

Some farmer overwatcher is gonna be angry today Laughing

Orar Ironfist
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.08.16 14:17:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Ratey



Er, how much isk should I ask for to NOT post the counter tactic?



I like how badly you were owned. It made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.


Concorduck
Gallente
Posted - 2008.08.16 15:12:00 - [20]
 

Congratulations, You Destroyed 280 and Looted 267 Attribute Points, for a Total of 547 Attribute Points taken from State War Academy.

Please Enter your Name: ___

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2008.08.16 19:06:00 - [21]
 

I remember actually... seeing an executioner doing the EXACT SAME THING.

He had 35 Improved implants in his cargo and I shot him, however I was not lucky enough to pop him in my Brutix. He got incredibly lucky.

Good work Lithium, lol :)

Havohej
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
Posted - 2008.08.16 20:04:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Havohej on 16/08/2008 20:04:53
Originally by: Ratey
Originally by: SurrenderMonkey

....You smartbomb them....on the warp...into...the gate. Before they jump. They're arriving at the gate, not departing it. They're not MWDing, they're not cloaking. They're desperately mashing the jump button.

Ah right, thanks.

I know how to work around that too. But I don't want to spoil this guys gig.

Er, how much isk should I ask for to NOT post the counter tactic?



The counter was posted like, two days ago.

Don't warp to the gate from the obvious direction. Go to a planet or something, first. And the smartbombing BS is usually a lowsec trick (0.0 offers bubbles, which are better for catching anything at all). So since lowsec can't have bubbles, if you're too stupid to warp to a planet first, or you just want the additional visual confirmation of where the suspected smartbombing BS is, warp to the gate at 100km and visually inspect first.

Despite having posted this, lith will STILL smartbomb countless more frigates and shuttles carrying all manner of salvage, BPOs and implants, thus netting billions in profit.

Also, grats OP.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.08.16 21:07:00 - [23]
 

We all know how good the Gallente are at not getting smartbombed Razz

Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.08.16 21:58:00 - [24]
 

Congratulations... Now I hate you... Laughing

Kavu
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.08.17 03:42:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
We all know how good the Gallente are at not getting smartbombed Razz

HAY
WATCH FOR THE SMARTBOMBS GALLENTE NUBS
IT WILL COME AGAIN TO PASS WHEN WE SMARTBOMB YOU TO TEH STATIONS

Elurilmar
Posted - 2008.08.17 03:45:00 - [26]
 

Congrats in making 1 more player quit eve haha

Dura'Lorth
Minmatar
Lorth Production LTD
Posted - 2008.08.17 04:12:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Elurilmar
Congrats in making 1 more farmer have to sell his organs to support his family for the day haha


Fixed

Stubek
Perkone
Posted - 2008.08.17 12:35:00 - [28]
 

Who the hell moves 10bil in implants, in a T1 frig? Srsly.

Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.08.17 14:23:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Elurilmar
Congrats in making 1 more player quit eve haha


bitter much? Laughing

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.08.17 14:26:00 - [30]
 

Nice break, grats.


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