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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
Posted - 2008.08.14 06:21:00 - [121]
 

By the way, one other thing that i think has been missed:

Using an alt for a scam should be bannable in any scam/grief/whatnot.

I get and accept that some deviant of a character fools meh moneyz, but not that this guy is some kind of god controlling n-ty of people.

Main scamming, cool. Alt-scamming, not Confused

Thommy
Posted - 2008.08.14 06:55:00 - [122]
 

It requeires some reading to find the document they linked you to, it is in the FAQ section under names.

It is linked there at the bottom section
[Quote]11.5 How do I know what names are not permitted?

Read the User and Character Name Policy. It will give you all the information you need to familiarize yourself with the rules regarding this topic.[/Quote]


You could have reached that document also by going to Eve support >> Game policy >> User policy.

Additionally there is an section in the EULA covered to also deal with character nameing issues namely section 2 B.
Quote:
... You will be assigned a login name and a character name during the registration and character creation process. You may not allow anyone to use your login name or character name to access the System or play EVE. No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity. You may not obtain, attempt to obtain, use or attempt to use the login name or character name of anyone else. ...



There you have it 3 ways you could have read about this and could have known it is an breach of the EULA.

Any other scams are ok because you yourselve take the stick from doing the scam (name and shame) but this scam was banned from being used because it allowed people to ruin the reputation of other people which in turn could have severe consequences for the rest of their eve playtime without any consequences (read disposable alt) for the scammer.

So these documents where allready there and could be reached the normal way even without getting an link from an GM.

Sidenote: If you think an action MAY be an breach of the rules or EULA you should have petitioned for it first and get the word from CCP.
Specificly because you allready thought it would be an exploit and ccp would take the money.
You got lucky here that there was no character / account ban possibly even carrying over to any other accounts you may have had because when GM's deal with exploiters you usually never hear from them again afterwards.
If you ever find that you do get an player ban (not just against the character but an ban on all accounts) you are not allowed to create a new account again because that one will get shut down aswell.

Just for the people who do not understand the rules to well below is scenario written example of why this is not allowed:
Quote:
Player IAMAPLAYER plays eve since the start, he is an very formidable player with alot of skillpoints.
Someone creates an alt named 1amaplayer, copies the original char his bio and pretends he is the same person.
1amaplayer scams someone.
1amaplayer sends the isk to his main char who cannot be found about by any means.
1amaplayer is deleted by the scammer.
iamaplayer is now again the only name there and gets blaimed for the former char 1amaplayer his actions, without any ability to defend against the bad reputation because the original name does not exist anymore.

Consequence: original player his char is ruined and cannot ever redeem from something he did not do, no rewards whatsoever for him.
offending player got all the rewards without any of the risks.

This can be used to destroy an person his reputation over and over, upto the point of forceing them to abandon eve because they can not rebuild their char because doing so would forfeit years of building up his character not to mention would even hit their reallife investments turning it all to trash.
This is the main reason why ccp does not allow it.


Disco Flint
The Flaming Sideburn's
Posted - 2008.08.14 07:02:00 - [123]
 

With a "regular" scammer, only the victims get hurt, and they do have tools and possibilites to identify a scam beforehand, even if they couldn't hurt the scammer afterwards, they had their chance. However once you impersonate someone else and ruin their reputation it gets out of hand, as the one being impersonated has no chance whatsoever to get revenge. He can wardec you, camp the station you're sitting in all day long and it'll be all for nothing as you don't have to undock to do your scams and to ruin his good name.

So yeah, a good name is worth a lot in EVE and the one being robbed off his good name doesn't have any possibilities to get you, that's why there is this rule.

techzer0
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.08.14 07:39:00 - [124]
 

There is a guy named "techzerO" (with an "O" not the number like I have) in eve who has gotten a few of my ransoms. I demand justice!


DOWN WITH IMPOSTERS!!!!!!!

Angelic Orange
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:17:00 - [125]
 

To me this seems like an abuse of power. If you used a name spelt Chri8ba and never said that you were "the" chribba then there is no problem. EVE is supposed to be a place where things like this can happen and for a long time they did happen. Now though I don't know. I have one account that is banned from the forums because I said "******". EVE is slowly becoming the place where you can only do what CCP wants you to do instead of doing what you want to do and making ISK in the process. I totally agree with you though EVECitizen19821743, they should refund you the isk and change your name back to chri8ba because anyone with half a brain would realize that chri8ba is not chribba. I mean seriously, if they change chri8ba to EVEcitezenwhatever, but all the people with Orion or Dark or Darth in their names are allowed to keep them then that is an injustice in the world. And there are a ****ton of Orions Darks and Darths in EVE. Who is to stop them from scamming people??

Angelic Orange
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:25:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Disco Flint
With a "regular" scammer, only the victims get hurt, and they do have tools and possibilites to identify a scam beforehand, even if they couldn't hurt the scammer afterwards, they had their chance. However once you impersonate someone else and ruin their reputation it gets out of hand, as the one being impersonated has no chance whatsoever to get revenge. He can wardec you, camp the station you're sitting in all day long and it'll be all for nothing as you don't have to undock to do your scams and to ruin his good name.

So yeah, a good name is worth a lot in EVE and the one being robbed off his good name doesn't have any possibilities to get you, that's why there is this rule.
What if I made a character named Disco Fint and scammed someone? Would that really hurt you? Would I be impersonating you or would the dumbass that fell for the scam say, "Damn that disco fint, I'll get them" Personally I feel in the greater scheme of scams using names that are names of characters just spelt differently is perfectly acceptable in the course of a scam. As long as you don't say you are them or an alt of them then there should be no problems what so ever. This scam being reversed just goes to show though that CCP does play favoritism and truely is moving more towards hello kitty online than the cruel dark universe that EVE is supposed to be.

Angelic Orange
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:32:00 - [127]
 

Originally by: GM Krymus
To provide some clarification - impersonating another player, be it by creating a character with a similar character name as someone else or simply claiming you are the alt of someone (such as the 'I'm your CEO's alt' scam as described by F'nog), is not allowed.

Regards,

GM Krymus
If this is true the why are there so many Darth such and suches, so many Orion such and such so many Dark whatevers. I call bull**** on this GM Krymus and say that you are just throwing this out there to cover yourself or your GM buddies ass. How about you go into the database and change everyones name that isn't Nemesis, you know the ones that are n3mesis or nemes1s or neme5is or nemesi5 ..... BULL****. I should make an alt name Penn& Teller to call out posts like this.

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:35:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: EVECitizen19821743
Originally by: The Herrick
Remember kids, scamming and stealing is a-ok, but don't for a second think about impersonating everyones favorite miner.


Thats exactly what i'm thinking. If it had been anyone else would CCP have done the same thing?

EVECitizen


Yep. They are very strict about it. And as all cases are handled by GM's on case by case basis it's almost impossible to spin a tale in a way to convince them.

In a nutshell, as long as someone does not petition you you can sit with your similar name. As soon as someone does right for the name goes for the person who had it first and your's got removed. If scam was involved or you managed to profit from that similar name by some other mistake (say someone escrowed you a lot of stuff thinking you were the other person with very similar name) there is very good propability that the transaction will be reversed in case of petition.

Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:35:00 - [129]
 

well technicly your right but in this case chribba is an name , a branch, it stands for security..

His name could be dishonord and people could talk about him wrongly.. while he never did anything wrong.. so in this case its something else

Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:41:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Angelic Orange
Originally by: GM Krymus
To provide some clarification - impersonating another player, be it by creating a character with a similar character name as someone else or simply claiming you are the alt of someone (such as the 'I'm your CEO's alt' scam as described by F'nog), is not allowed.

Regards,

GM Krymus
If this is true the why are there so many Darth such and suches, so many Orion such and such so many Dark whatevers. I call bull**** on this GM Krymus and say that you are just throwing this out there to cover yourself or your GM buddies ass. How about you go into the database and change everyones name that isn't Nemesis, you know the ones that are n3mesis or nemes1s or neme5is or nemesi5 ..... BULL****. I should make an alt name Penn& Teller to call out posts like this.



someone needs to read the EULA CCP put out ages ago....(you know, the one thats been there since the game started..)


The thing is, theres co-incidence, and theres blantant impersonation,

OP's case is the latter, he copied Chribba's bio, and other information to make himself look as much as Chribba as possible...

and he admitted afew times here that he planned to scam using another person's established identity that... quite frankly, is worth something..

so, scamming with in-game tools = okay..

scamming with out of game stuff (in this case, the reputation Chribba developed over the years) = not soo cool...


OP messed up cause he picked a VERY visible person to impersonate..

Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:43:00 - [131]
 

Edited by: Mika Meroko on 14/08/2008 08:43:52
Originally by: Angelic Orange
Originally by: GM Krymus
To provide some clarification - impersonating another player, be it by creating a character with a similar character name as someone else or simply claiming you are the alt of someone (such as the 'I'm your CEO's alt' scam as described by F'nog), is not allowed.

Regards,

GM Krymus
If this is true the why are there so many Darth such and suches, so many Orion such and such so many Dark whatevers. I call bull**** on this GM Krymus and say that you are just throwing this out there to cover yourself or your GM buddies ass. How about you go into the database and change everyones name that isn't Nemesis, you know the ones that are n3mesis or nemes1s or neme5is or nemesi5 ..... BULL****. I should make an alt name Penn& Teller to call out posts like this.



someone needs to read the EULA CCP put out ages ago....(you know, the one thats been there since the game started..)


The thing is, theres co-incidence, and theres blantant impersonation,

one is relatively harmless, the other is exploitation for profit..

OP's case is the latter, he copied Chribba's bio, and other information to make himself look as much as Chribba as possible...he even waited for the real thing to log off before he planned his "attack" ...

so yeah, is no coincident..

and he admitted afew times here that he planned to scam using another person's established identity that... quite frankly, is worth something..

so, scamming with in-game tools = okay..

scamming with out of game stuff (in this case, the reputation Chribba developed over the years) = not soo cool...

edit:
OP messed up cause he picked a VERY visible person to impersonate..

Angelic Orange
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:45:00 - [132]
 

Edited by: Angelic Orange on 14/08/2008 08:47:13
Edited by: Angelic Orange on 14/08/2008 08:46:21
Originally by: Carniflex
Originally by: EVECitizen19821743
Originally by: The Herrick
Remember kids, scamming and stealing is a-ok, but don't for a second think about impersonating everyones favorite miner.


Thats exactly what i'm thinking. If it had been anyone else would CCP have done the same thing?

EVECitizen


Yep. They are very strict about it. And as all cases are handled by GM's on case by case basis it's almost impossible to spin a tale in a way to convince them.

In a nutshell, as long as someone does not petition you you can sit with your similar name. As soon as someone does right for the name goes for the person who had it first and your's got removed. If scam was involved or you managed to profit from that similar name by some other mistake (say someone escrowed you a lot of stuff thinking you were the other person with very similar name) there is very good propability that the transaction will be reversed in case of petition.
look at this coming from carniflex... do you know how many different variations of your name there are in EVE? Are you the original or is carn1flex the original. Does carnifex have to worry about his name getting changed because someone sent him things that were ment for you? I call bull**** on it all. If people are to dumb to realize with whom they are dealing with that is their loss. It should not be up to CCP to police names that resemble another players name unless that name brakes the code of conduct for a characters name.

edit spelling

Angelic Orange
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:53:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Mika Meroko
Edited by: Mika Meroko on 14/08/2008 08:43:52
Originally by: Angelic Orange
Originally by: GM Krymus
To provide some clarification - impersonating another player, be it by creating a character with a similar character name as someone else or simply claiming you are the alt of someone (such as the 'I'm your CEO's alt' scam as described by F'nog), is not allowed.

Regards,

GM Krymus
If this is true the why are there so many Darth such and suches, so many Orion such and such so many Dark whatevers. I call bull**** on this GM Krymus and say that you are just throwing this out there to cover yourself or your GM buddies ass. How about you go into the database and change everyones name that isn't Nemesis, you know the ones that are n3mesis or nemes1s or neme5is or nemesi5 ..... BULL****. I should make an alt name Penn& Teller to call out posts like this.



someone needs to read the EULA CCP put out ages ago....(you know, the one thats been there since the game started..)


The thing is, theres co-incidence, and theres blantant impersonation,

one is relatively harmless, the other is exploitation for profit..

OP's case is the latter, he copied Chribba's bio, and other information to make himself look as much as Chribba as possible...he even waited for the real thing to log off before he planned his "attack" ...

so yeah, is no coincident..

and he admitted afew times here that he planned to scam using another person's established identity that... quite frankly, is worth something..

so, scamming with in-game tools = okay..

scamming with out of game stuff (in this case, the reputation Chribba developed over the years) = not soo cool...

edit:
OP messed up cause he picked a VERY visible person to impersonate..
And ... he used all in game tools to scam right? Going by what you said he use an in game bio, an in game name, scammed for ingame isk and won. There is a little think I like to call people and places. In this thing I can search for people. I can look at all their bios employment histories and what have you and copy just about anything I like or want to. The OP said though that he never claimed to the mark that he was "the" chribba and obviously his employment history and NAME would show that this account wasn't Chribba. So where is the foul in so dumb fool not reading the fine print and getting scammed?

Cyberman Mastermind
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:56:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Angelic Orange
As long as you don't say you are them or an alt of them then there should be no problems what so ever.

As soon as you take on a name similar to another name you ARE saying you are the other person.
Communication is not only done with words. Actions can speak loud, as do names, obviously.

Angelic Orange
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:59:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Angelic Orange
As long as you don't say you are them or an alt of them then there should be no problems what so ever.

As soon as you take on a name similar to another name you ARE saying you are the other person.
Communication is not only done with words. Actions can speak loud, as do names, obviously.
Just take a guess at how many Cyberman characters there are in EVE.

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:10:00 - [136]
 

Hmm, It's shaky at best.

As has been said, there are tons of names that are very very similar to each others. The fact that Chribba is a well known name is irrelevant imo.

As long as you said you didnt actually claim to BE Chribba then i think it's a bit harsh.

For instance. How many EVECitizen(randomnumbers) are there? If any of them did a scam would they be ruled to have been impersonating any of the others? NO.

I hope you do get your money back EVEcitizen if what you say is true.

Jet Max
Gallente
Spawns of Thanatos
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:11:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Angelic Orange
Originally by: GM Krymus
To provide some clarification - impersonating another player, be it by creating a character with a similar character name as someone else or simply claiming you are the alt of someone (such as the 'I'm your CEO's alt' scam as described by F'nog), is not allowed.

Regards,

GM Krymus
If this is true the why are there so many Darth such and suches, so many Orion such and such so many Dark whatevers. I call bull**** on this GM Krymus and say that you are just throwing this out there to cover yourself or your GM buddies ass. How about you go into the database and change everyones name that isn't Nemesis, you know the ones that are n3mesis or nemes1s or neme5is or nemesi5 ..... BULL****. I should make an alt name Penn& Teller to call out posts like this.


I dont like scammers/thiefs but i must agree with Angelic Orange here, what GM Krymus posted is absolute crap... There are so many alts out there with names that replace other peoples names with few digits and GM comes up with this!? wtf?

But hey GM Krymus, we like to bend rules sometimes to suit us, dont we?

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:19:00 - [138]
 

all they have to do it petition the name and then it will be looked into,
if they have the same name and look the same and have a bio the same then it is impersonation - if they 2 names are similar but nothing else matches then a different matter

the character BIG Games has been impersonated before and each time it gets removed after a petition - not as it's createdRolling Eyes

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:23:00 - [139]
 

So.. Does this now mean we should all go into the character search and start petitioning all names that are similar to each other? It's the only way to be fair and keep things unbiased.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:26:00 - [140]
 

yes if you
1) want the petition queue to grow
2) feel that someone is impersonating you or another character

Wild Rho
Amarr
Silent Core
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:29:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
So.. Does this now mean we should all go into the character search and start petitioning all names that are similar to each other? It's the only way to be fair and keep things unbiased.


Only if those characters have identical portraits, bios and/or one is claiming to be the other character. Now go get yourself a common sense implant.

Lillian D'Florite
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:33:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: Wild Rho
Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
So.. Does this now mean we should all go into the character search and start petitioning all names that are similar to each other? It's the only way to be fair and keep things unbiased.


Only if those characters have identical portraits, bios and/or one is claiming to be the other character. Now go get yourself a common sense implant.



this:

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:36:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Wild Rho
Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
So.. Does this now mean we should all go into the character search and start petitioning all names that are similar to each other? It's the only way to be fair and keep things unbiased.


Only if those characters have identical portraits, bios and/or one is claiming to be the other character. Now go get yourself a common sense implant.


It wasn't a serious comment. I'm sorry that text doesn't quite convey sarcasm well. Maybe i should have used more smilies? RazzRazzRazzRazzRazz

Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:37:00 - [144]
 

Edited by: Mika Meroko on 14/08/2008 09:40:53
Originally by: Angelic Orange
And ... he used all in game tools to scam right? Going by what you said he use an in game bio, an in game name, scammed for ingame isk and won. There is a little think I like to call people and places. In this thing I can search for people. I can look at all their bios employment histories and what have you and copy just about anything I like or want to. The OP said though that he never claimed to the mark that he was "the" chribba and obviously his employment history and NAME would show that this account wasn't Chribba. So where is the foul in so dumb fool not reading the fine print and getting scammed?




But the thing is:

would he been able to get that money if he say.... did a Mika Meruko as part of the Crayon Postings Inc?


and yes, the OP implied that hes Chribba.... he took the effort to make himself LOOK like him... he admited to waiting for the real thing to log off before convoing the guy and "used social engineering" AKA manipulation on his mark...

thats impersonation... and CCP doesnt like that, is in the EULA.... (which was made ages ago...)

if hes like: "Hey!!!! you there, you want to buy a mothership?" without all the hoobob...


then is a different case....


seriously... not all form of communication are verbal....




and yeah, CCP's rules.. and quite frankly, he just got caught breaking EULA in the way thats a big no no....


if he doesnt do anything with his ChriB8a... then I doubt anything would happen...since I doubt anyone would petition him for doing bad things...(if he doesnt do anything bad.. at most, he probley would get asked by GM, asking what he want to change his name to...)


but the issue is... he impersonated someone... and got caught doing it ...(while breaking the EULA..)

*I suggest you read all of OP's words... and think of the implications...*


remember: We are just explaining to him WHY GM did what GM did (cause someone petitioned him breaking EULA.... that being the key....)



edit:
if you want to argue how CCP should change the EULA.. take it up with an CSM...

no use arguing how you feel about it here.

Disco Flint
The Flaming Sideburn's
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:48:00 - [145]
 

Edited by: Disco Flint on 14/08/2008 09:54:05
Originally by: Angelic Orange
Originally by: Disco Flint
With a "regular" scammer, only the victims get hurt, and they do have tools and possibilites to identify a scam beforehand, even if they couldn't hurt the scammer afterwards, they had their chance. However once you impersonate someone else and ruin their reputation it gets out of hand, as the one being impersonated has no chance whatsoever to get revenge. He can wardec you, camp the station you're sitting in all day long and it'll be all for nothing as you don't have to undock to do your scams and to ruin his good name.

So yeah, a good name is worth a lot in EVE and the one being robbed off his good name doesn't have any possibilities to get you, that's why there is this rule.
What if I made a character named Disco Fint and scammed someone? Would that really hurt you? Would I be impersonating you or would the dumbass that fell for the scam say, "Damn that disco fint, I'll get them" Personally I feel in the greater scheme of scams using names that are names of characters just spelt differently is perfectly acceptable in the course of a scam. As long as you don't say you are them or an alt of them then there should be no problems what so ever. This scam being reversed just goes to show though that CCP does play favoritism and truely is moving more towards hello kitty online than the cruel dark universe that EVE is supposed to be.

It wouldn't hurt me because I wouldn't care, I don't make money in EVE nor do I partake in activities that require a lot of trust and a lot of good reputation. But there are those who do, and running scams under a name that can easily be mistaken as the original does erode a lot of trust; and for the "original" owner there's then no way to get back at you. Heck I couldn't think of an ingame mechanic that would allow revenge for the original name owner for the life of me.
Solving that with a simple line in the EULA and GM intervention should this part of the EULA be violated seems to be the most prudent course of action. You read the rules, you break them, GMs hit you with a stick. As long as they hit everyone who breaks the rules with the same stick I don't see favouritism there. Also, it doesn't make the EVE-verse less dark and harsh when stupid people who can't read or simply ignore the rules get whacked.

I'm totally not for GM intervention with "normal" scams, mind you, there's plenty of things in place already to give the victims a great chance to notice the scam beforehand, e.g. ISK values being given in numbers and letters or pictures and un-changable item names showing in contracts. But for using someone else's reputation, there's no possibility at all for the original name owner to avoid it, unless he creates a lot of accounts and alts with every possible way of spelling his name.
edit: And after the ebil deed has been done by the scammer, there's also no possibility to get justice with guns, as the scammer can loftily sit docked in a market hub all day, doesn't hurt the business one bit. So, again, no possibility for the original name owner to do a damn thing about it, except maybe to spam up local (more, if you're in Jita).

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:55:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Angelic Orange
Edited by: Angelic Orange on 14/08/2008 08:47:13
Edited by: Angelic Orange on 14/08/2008 08:46:21
Originally by: Carniflex
Originally by: EVECitizen19821743
Originally by: The Herrick
Remember kids, scamming and stealing is a-ok, but don't for a second think about impersonating everyones favorite miner.


Thats exactly what i'm thinking. If it had been anyone else would CCP have done the same thing?

EVECitizen


Yep. They are very strict about it. And as all cases are handled by GM's on case by case basis it's almost impossible to spin a tale in a way to convince them.

In a nutshell, as long as someone does not petition you you can sit with your similar name. As soon as someone does right for the name goes for the person who had it first and your's got removed. If scam was involved or you managed to profit from that similar name by some other mistake (say someone escrowed you a lot of stuff thinking you were the other person with very similar name) there is very good propability that the transaction will be reversed in case of petition.
look at this coming from carniflex... do you know how many different variations of your name there are in EVE? Are you the original or is carn1flex the original. Does carnifex have to worry about his name getting changed because someone sent him things that were ment for you? I call bull**** on it all. If people are to dumb to realize with whom they are dealing with that is their loss. It should not be up to CCP to police names that resemble another players name unless that name brakes the code of conduct for a characters name.

edit spelling



If he has been in game less than me then yes. He might get his name changed would I petition about it. However as I'm not aware of any impersonation attempts I see no reason to throw tantrum about it. Or I might get mine changed would any of the others who are older than me in game petition about it. In any case GM's will deal with it on case by case basis when and if it's petitioned.

People I deal with write my full name in contracts and have to pick character over some corporation (I have no ties to that corporation whatsoever). Not very hard.

fuze
Gallente
Quam Singulari
Posted - 2008.08.14 10:36:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Jet Max
I dont like scammers/thiefs but i must agree with Angelic Orange here, what GM Krymus posted is absolute crap... There are so many alts out there with names that replace other peoples names with few digits and GM comes up with this!? wtf?

I Agree as well. There are tons of near exact names/faces chars out there and there isn't much done about it unless someone gets scammed and petitions it.
Originally by: Jet Max
But hey GM Krymus, we like to bend rules sometimes to suit us, don't we?

This seems a bit harsh but there is some truth in it I suppose. I guess its handled case by case and then there is room for interpretation. With example of post #106 I'd say it's alarming to see that not all cases handled in a similar way.

Cyberman Mastermind
Posted - 2008.08.14 10:43:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Angelic Orange
Just take a guess at how many Cyberman characters there are in EVE.

Probably dozens. But since this is only part of my name, there is no chance of confusion/impersonation.
If there were a "Cyberman_Mastermind" or Cyberman Masterm1nd", it would be a different matter.

Neesa Corrinne
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.08.14 10:47:00 - [149]
 

If the OP had used a goon or (someone else that everyone loves to hate), then half the people here telling him he's an ******* for doing this would be cheering him on instead.

Victor Valka
Caldari
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2008.08.14 10:49:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
If the OP had used a goon or (someone else that everyone loves to hate), then half the people here telling him he's an ******* for doing this would be cheering him on instead.
Spawn more overlords!

(I felt like random.)


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