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 Wesley Baird Caldari D00M. Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2008.08.14 00:46:00 - [ 241]
Originally by: SomeHardLovin For those thinking TRI is invading for prime ratting space or plex running I have news for ya.. that ain't it. Our space sucks for ratting/plex running :P I think that's been discussed before ad nausium lol.
My fleet of hulks will run your systems (ooops our systems) dry!! |
 Graalum Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 00:55:00 - [ 242]
Originally by: Splagada worse of all, i got called amarr-ship-flyer 
ammar is pretty awesome tbh. |
 Gjs312 Caldari Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2008.08.14 01:52:00 - [ 243]
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 Cippalippus Primus Caldari eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2008.08.14 02:04:00 - [ 244]
amarr pretty much owns hey look at lag how will i reload guns oh wait i don't need to |
 Jonaaka Kaliin Caldari Goon Recruiting LLC
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Posted - 2008.08.14 02:33:00 - [ 245]
Originally by: Dragonzchilde Edited by: Dragonzchilde on 13/08/2008 23:34:26 Edited by: Dragonzchilde on 13/08/2008 23:33:23 Thanx Pure for bringing "it"
- 154 men gang * check * - dictors * check * - nano's (omg nerf em) * check * - balls (at least in the beginning) * check * - lag * check * - competent pilots ... errr who? - uber fc's ? what's that? - Hydra .... sitting at the pos watching rust take over
Thanks to Tri for bringing "it"
- 90 men gang * check * - nano's (nerf em bad) * check * - dictors *check * - balls (twink can i have em back, you squeezed them dry) * check * - f4cer4pe * doublecheck *
also thanks for getting me at 300 kills since i joined BE a month ago. This officially makes me the corp slacker. , actually at 150 the other were done before that
I'm glad you're having fun rolling in your own stink of win. If things were decided by one win or loss I'm sure we'd all jump on your bandwagon of coolness to coolsville. Anyone can screw up, lose a fleet, have a bad day or week. There's a good reason why Pure. doesn't come here to join in sycophantic threads like this: it detracts from the game and really makes you look like one trick ponies. |
 Prof Patpending Amarr Bodgit and Scarper Industrial
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Posted - 2008.08.14 06:40:00 - [ 246]
Originally by: Wesley Baird
My fleet of hulks will run your systems (ooops our systems) dry!!
Our Hulks will blot out the Sun! |
 Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.08.14 06:58:00 - [ 247]
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 Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.08.14 07:06:00 - [ 248]
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Veldya NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die.
You mean like Razor, MM, Iron etc are leaving Hydra to die?!!?
LOL LOL LOL
You want to be accurate in your statements, but actually you're pretty flawed. If Hydra disbands (dies), it's for their own fault. If they loose their space, they are just another alliance that lost it and can take it back with or without help. Why are you flawed? Because that's exactly what happened to TRI 3-4 months ago. |
 Deva Blackfire Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.14 07:30:00 - [ 249]
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 14/08/2008 07:30:42 Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
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You are pretty bitter spamming all TRI threads. Did someone touch you in wrong place? And why did you run from CEI - not enough for your 'skills'?
You are pretty bitter spamming with posts about RZR. Did someone touch you in wrong place? And why did you run from RZR - not enough plexes for you?
This is post about TRI from what i see, i dont feel aroused enough to run and post in every RZR thread (yes you can even check it yourself - managed to evade most of them actually). As for plexes - since i left for the 1st time i didnt need to do them - inventions bring much more ISK than you might imagine. So what about you? Still bitter i see coz ya running "rampage" again with your bull****. |
 Arkanjuca Caldari D00M. Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2008.08.14 07:51:00 - [ 250]
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 Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:19:00 - [ 251]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
This is post about TRI from what i see, i dont feel aroused enough to run and post in every RZR thread (yes you can even check it yourself - managed to evade most of them actually).
As for plexes - since i left for the 1st time i didnt need to do them - inventions bring much more ISK than you might imagine.
So what about you? Still bitter i see coz ya running "rampage" again with your bull****.
Well, thanks for your confessions. But I couldn't care less about them. The plex thing was something that I heard and obviously, I wrote it was a "trol". For a lot of occasions, I'm here to snipe and entertain myself when I'm bored for whatever reason. For a few occasions I post stuff that I find it's not actually entertainment. There is a least one thing about this game that many of you hotshots don't understand. It's not difficult to coordinate people that share many goals and features and have been recruited to fulfill those goals and also have the prerequisites for this fulfillment. That's why TRI is good at having a very good k/d and that's why they are good at finding targets of opportunity. However, it's very difficult to coordinate people in different entities that have other priorities in Eve than just have a killboard saturated with kills. People might enjoy or "enjoy" fueling a POS, doing logistics, planting POSes, mining, doing missions, constructing, inventing, trading or some time to time just connect on TS or ingame to have a chat. There are also recruits with low experience that have to be integrated to the group. There are people that do this too, you know, not every alliance has 20-30mil sp recruiting requirements. Actually, the first edition of TRI failed quite miserably at many aspects that I mentioned before. "Fail" is harsh word, that the hotshots like you love to use, but you have a hard time admitting that it suits you quite well due to some reasons. Even more so, it's quite difficult to coordinate people in different entities (alliances) that have different playing "traditions", schedules or spoken languages and don't share the same alliance chat, mail or forums. The NC have created bounds between themselves, bounds of friendship and of loyalty. They are trying to make this work and also give their members the chance to play the game as it is, not just play it on the killboard. That's a thing from which TRI will run away. So, while TRI prides itself for being better as a whole alliance at playing the game on the killboard, you have actually failed in many places. |
 One Chance Caldari Forster Inc Free Trade Zone. |
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:20:00 - [ 252]
Originally by: TheAdj Edited by: TheAdj on 13/08/2008 23:11:55
Originally by: Aya There was a thread a long time ago on MM boards about Tri, and how they thought Tri was good clean fun.
Well were all here to have some fun and I cant imagine a better place then smack in the middle of Pure, MM, RZR, and MH.
Come on NC, you cant have all blues next to you, what fun is that?
Pretty sure this applies to MM and co as well, but the general opinion in RAZOR is we like you guys around, you provide a crucial service in reducing the carebear population. That's why the prior arrangement worked out well, both sides had people to shoot pretty much on demand without serious sov concerns. I think we both know how Vale is going to play out, the moment we have some free time you guys will be gone in a weekend and back in Venal, there won't really be any good fights out of it.
So...you're talking big about blobbing....never thought I'd see the day. I wonder why RZR members even stay when your alliances aren't even bothered about preserving close by targets, or even having fun trying to destroy them in a relatively even match* *It would ony ever be relatively even if it was Razor alone as they are only about 1.5x the size of Tri+Exceed total. Fake edit: Also I'd like to see you remove us in a weekend...let alone force us out of one system in a weekend. |
 Deva Blackfire Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.14 08:52:00 - [ 253]
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 14/08/2008 08:54:26 Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
However, it's very difficult to coordinate people in different entities that have other priorities in Eve than just have a killboard saturated with kills. People might enjoy or "enjoy" fueling a POS, doing logistics, planting POSes, mining, doing missions, constructing, inventing, trading or some time to time just connect on TS or ingame to have a chat. There are also recruits with low experience that have to be integrated to the group. There are people that do this too, you know, not every alliance has 20-30mil sp recruiting requirements.
Both i and you know that "SP requirements" are just general idea and many people under the bar managed to get into said corps. Its just general idea of how well skilled character should be. And yea - i do enjoy different things too - and i do them all (of ALL things in EVE i didnt do thejre is only: piloting supercap and leading corp/alliance left out - both of which dont interest me at all). Quote:
Actually, the first edition of TRI failed quite miserably at many aspects that I mentioned before. "Fail" is harsh word, that the hotshots like you love to use, but you have a hard time admitting that it suits you quite well due to some reasons.
Its easy to see flaws, but you still missing the fact that any "corp/alliance roam" in which we would do the outbreak-style "move all ships there, roam around" would result in owners of space having big OSHT moment. IAC chestbeats about RQM episode yet they still forget they were getting farmed like hydra is getting farmed now. And it was exactly same with all alliances when we moved around - they were just getting farmed (even just after leaving TRI and moving to HED area we scored around 100bil in damage within less than a month). Quote:
Even more so, it's quite difficult to coordinate people in different entities (alliances) that have different playing "traditions", schedules or spoken languages and don't share the same alliance chat, mail or forums.
Dunno... all in all only 1 intel channel is enough (which is often hijacked by random stuff anyways ;p). Quote:
The NC have created bounds between themselves, bounds of friendship and of loyalty. They are trying to make this work and also give their members the chance to play the game as it is, not just play it on the killboard. That's a thing from which TRI will run away.
Dunno if you missed the fact but i was in the north (NC even if you prefer) from almost the beggining (at least from moving out from PB towards tenal along with D2). And even if they are friends (which i agree they do) the chestbeating from some people is hilarious at best. Also the major part: TRI does play with handicap they created themselves. Its called "no napfests" which till now almost no alliances managed to do. And of all those alliances who did accept this handicap TRI was and is the most succesful one. If you say we "fail" even in this then show me someone who is better. So its EXACTLY as you say: we play the game by rules we set, same as little joe might be "succesful in mining cronkite". EDIT: and chestbeating example? Quote: Pretty sure this applies to MM and co as well, but the general opinion in RAZOR is we like you guys around, you provide a crucial service in reducing the carebear population. That's why the prior arrangement worked out well, both sides had people to shoot pretty much on demand without serious sov concerns. I think we both know how Vale is going to play out, the moment we have some free time you guys will be gone in a weekend and back in Venal, there won't really be any good fights out of it.
I love how he tries to predict the future using crystal ball and already shows himself as great winner. Oh yea - and its mostly people with his attitude (+ total boredom) made me quit razor in 1st place. TBH thx guys, found much better company. |
 Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.08.14 08:53:00 - [ 254]
Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 08:56:52 Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Veldya NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die.
You mean like Razor, MM, Iron etc are leaving Hydra to die?!!?
LOL LOL LOL
You obviously are not very smart wes  whats that saying about victories need sacrifices or something...and surely you are not that narrow minded to know why we couldnt exactly blob vale. Also i cant be bothered quoting the other guy who said TRI helped us with removing Mpire, that isnt exactly true. On our 1st or 2nd attempt they did, the one where mpire camped gates with caps and the node crashed etc etc, but that attempt was unsuccessful, the final (and successful, 3rd time is a charm) attempt was done without TRI involvement. I liked the OLD TRI very much early on, much respect was held back then. The new TRI when they make posts like this gloating about beating down the NC alliance with the most room for improvement and development (no offense Hydra) while all their allies are 2 regions over fighting BOB and couldnt really deploy to Vale is what makes my respect for TRI plummet. Saying that we have just left allies to die is so far from the truth and not at all accurate.  Just feel the need to add that aneu is e-trash  Heard its name mentioned in this thread somewhere, thought i best add my statement  |
 One Chance Caldari Forster Inc Free Trade Zone. |
Posted - 2008.08.14 09:04:00 - [ 255]
Originally by: Centauris Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 08:56:52
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Veldya NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die.
You mean like Razor, MM, Iron etc are leaving Hydra to die?!!?
LOL LOL LOL
Also i cant be bothered quoting the other guy who said TRI helped us with removing Mpire, that isnt exactly true. On our 1st or 2nd attempt they did, the one where mpire camped gates with caps and the node crashed etc etc, but that attempt was unsuccessful, the final (and successful, 3rd time is a charm) attempt was done without TRI involvement.
While looking back to the Tri / NC / BKG conflict, while I don't think Tri are the sole reason (that would be stupid) for the destruction of MPire/Fatal and the others, I'm fairly sure that we were a significant catalyst. On the first night of Tri involvement, we brought a fleet of around 200, with 100-150 battleships if I remember correctly. Our fleet was larger than the entire NC fleet that was also there, and in MUCH better quality ships. I think that's when Mpire realised they couldn't win, and started to collapse. So before you say that the defeat of Mpire and co. was done entirely without Tri...remember it wasn't  |
 Iteken Hotori Minmatar The Flowing Penguins
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Posted - 2008.08.14 09:11:00 - [ 256]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition.
INSRG Tried, failed, tried the "friends" thing with TRI, that failed, and died. but For a while they did something alone. And got kerbstomped by a bunch of ***gots for it. |
 gamarus Caldari Ridiculously Proposed Guildname
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Posted - 2008.08.14 10:17:00 - [ 257]
Allow me to add my pow. in the BKG fighting:
It was one of these massive battle scenarios pitting 2 forces of nearly identical strength in just 1 system and we all know what that feels like. The old north and TRI were victorious that first evening but it could easily have gone the other way and that attack didn't break the spirit of Mpire et. al. But this New North Coalition had 1 weak link, Fallen Souls had provided 60 or more pilots in BKG and were direct neighbours to TRI. TRI pulled out of BKG and attacked Fallen Souls, followed 3 days later by an attack from the old north against Fallens Branch stations. This led to the collapse of Fallen Souls and thus weakening Mpires coalition. TRI took no part in BKG part 3(?) that victory belongs to RZR, MM and their friends iirc. with aid from Smashkill. |
 Cippalippus Primus Caldari eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2008.08.14 10:22:00 - [ 258]
Originally by: Iteken Hotori
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition.
INSRG Tried, failed, tried the "friends" thing with TRI, that failed, and died. but For a while they did something alone. And got kerbstomped by a bunch of ***gots for it.
As far as I know the pacts in the north were "no standings and no pos warfare either". |
 Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.08.14 10:40:00 - [ 259]
Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 10:43:32 Originally by: One Chance
So before you say that the defeat of Mpire and co. was done entirely without Tri...remember it wasn't 
I suggest you re read mate what i wrote. I mentioned your involvement and also simply added that you were not present in the final and successful destruction of Mpire. Sure you played a role over all, as did everyone. I did not mention anywhere that TRI done nothing or anything along those lines so please dont make out like i did  Your thoughts on TRI in better ships and outnumbered the whole NC fleet etc is also very narrow sighted and i suggest you take a better look back, not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse is the exact type of massive epeen stuff i expect to see from the "New Tri" now. |
 Butter Dog Gallente The Monocled Elite
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Posted - 2008.08.14 12:06:00 - [ 260]
Originally by: Centauris Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 10:43:32
Originally by: One Chance
So before you say that the defeat of Mpire and co. was done entirely without Tri...remember it wasn't 
I suggest you re read mate what i wrote. I mentioned your involvement and also simply added that you were not present in the final and successful destruction of Mpire. Sure you played a role over all, as did everyone. I did not mention anywhere that TRI done nothing or anything along those lines so please dont make out like i did 
Your thoughts on TRI in better ships and outnumbered the whole NC fleet etc is also very narrow sighted and i suggest you take a better look back, not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse is the exact type of massive epeen stuff i expect to see from the "New Tri" now.
He has a point about NC participation levels. When you look at the sheer numbers in the NC, one thing I've found suprising (and it happened in the INSRG conflict) is that we would often match your cap fleets (with TRI we completely outclassed you). Clearly, it's not that you don't have the hardware, its just that there is a much greater proportion of selfish carebears in NC alliances than in TRI or in INRSG (RIP). The average TRI member, and in the past the average INSRG member, is/was far more keen to get their expensive hardware on the field than the average NC member. Which is why TRI alone could kick any NC alliance to the kerb, not just Hydra. I'm sure they will prove that in time. I think it is about a lack of confidence in your own abilities - this also explains the blob mentality. You find any entity which doesnt conform to your cowardly modus operandi threatening. And rightly so. Because generally such entites are much, much better than any individual NC alliance at la pew pew. But you're great at fuelling POS etc. Someone's gotta do it ;) |
 Dark Angelete Gallente Dark Angel Battalion
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Posted - 2008.08.14 12:32:00 - [ 261]
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 Karlvon Gallente x100x
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:08:00 - [ 262]
Originally by: Centauris
I liked the OLD TRI very much early on, much respect was held back then. The new TRI when they make posts like this gloating about beating down the NC alliance with the most room for improvement and development (no offense Hydra) while all their allies are 2 regions over fighting BOB and couldnt really deploy to Vale is what makes my respect for TRI plummet. Saying that we have just left allies to die is so far from the truth and not at all accurate.
Just feel the need to add that aneu is e-trash Heard its name mentioned in this thread somewhere, thought i best add my statement 
So in your own words, you let hydra die, and it wasnt worth to save their space against tri. And why should be the most useless alliance in game (ok the one that has most room for improvement and development) be gracefully left out of any combat or attempts to take their space. They can practise on test server or NPC space, if their not up to defend their space. Tri+xceed have 900 players roughly, so you would need to deploy how many people to stop em. Cause i cen respect different playstyles, but if a smaller group kicks out a bigger one, than they simply better and the game rewards them with space. Everyone who wants to take space, or defend it, either can or cant. No excuses, no different playstyles. You do or do not. |
 Jonaaka Kaliin Caldari Goon Recruiting LLC
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:13:00 - [ 263]
Originally by: Arkanjuca
I want to ask you a bunch of questions, and i want them answered imediatly! Whos your daddy and what does he do?!?!?
You know boys have a p.enis, and girls have a vagina? |
 Wesley Baird Caldari D00M. Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2008.08.14 13:34:00 - [ 264]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam You want to be accurate in your statements, but actually you're pretty flawed.
If Hydra disbands (dies), it's for their own fault. If they loose their space, they are just another alliance that lost it and can take it back with or without help.
Why are you flawed? Because that's exactly what happened to TRI 3-4 months ago.
I'm not sure if we have a language issue here or not, but I don't see how Tri collapsing 4 months ago makes me flawed. We had a poster crowing how the NC are such great allies and would never let anyone of them die alone...which is exactly what they are doing to Hydra. Don't come here and be all "Smashkill" about how strong your coalition is when you are letting the weakest member in it die. |
 Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.08.14 13:38:00 - [ 265]
Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 13:39:26 Originally by: Karlvon Trolling ***
Whatever gets your rocks off  And wes get over yourself mate, your views are so far off the mark its not funny man. |
 Wesley Baird Caldari D00M. Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2008.08.14 13:39:00 - [ 266]
Originally by: Centauris
You obviously are not very smart wes whats that saying about victories need sacrifices or something...and surely you are not that narrow minded to know why we couldnt exactly blob vale.
Its true Im not the smartest of kids on this board, thanks for pointing it out and making me feel bad about myself  At least you are honest enough to admit your clever strategy for retaking vale. |
 Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.08.14 13:42:00 - [ 267]
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 Broska Caldari D00M. Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2008.08.14 13:46:00 - [ 268]
I still don't get why people are refering to old TRI and new TRI. The TRI now is pritty much the Original Tri of old, Venal day. PvPers wanting little to no blues, no naps. Just pure PvP goodness. All new TRI is, is old school TRI. No logistics *******s, No fat, no carebears.....well except Helen. |
 Newsflash Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:57:00 - [ 269]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Centauris Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 10:43:32
Originally by: One Chance
So before you say that the defeat of Mpire and co. was done entirely without Tri...remember it wasn't 
I suggest you re read mate what i wrote. I mentioned your involvement and also simply added that you were not present in the final and successful destruction of Mpire. Sure you played a role over all, as did everyone. I did not mention anywhere that TRI done nothing or anything along those lines so please dont make out like i did 
Your thoughts on TRI in better ships and outnumbered the whole NC fleet etc is also very narrow sighted and i suggest you take a better look back, not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse is the exact type of massive epeen stuff i expect to see from the "New Tri" now.
He has a point about NC participation levels.
When you look at the sheer numbers in the NC, one thing I've found suprising (and it happened in the INSRG conflict) is that we would often match your cap fleets (with TRI we completely outclassed you).
Clearly, it's not that you don't have the hardware, its just that there is a much greater proportion of selfish carebears in NC alliances than in TRI or in INRSG (RIP).
The average TRI member, and in the past the average INSRG member, is/was far more keen to get their expensive hardware on the field than the average NC member. Which is why TRI alone could kick any NC alliance to the kerb, not just Hydra. I'm sure they will prove that in time.
I think it is about a lack of confidence in your own abilities - this also explains the blob mentality. You find any entity which doesnt conform to your cowardly modus operandi threatening. And rightly so. Because generally such entites are much, much better than any individual NC alliance at la pew pew.
But you're great at fuelling POS etc. Someone's gotta do it ;)
well... then there is this little thing called real life that some people have and some obviously dont.. |
 Newsflash Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:59:00 - [ 270]
Originally by: Broska I still don't get why people are refering to old TRI and new TRI. The TRI now is pritty much the Original Tri of old, Venal day. PvPers wanting little to no blues, no naps. Just pure PvP goodness. All new TRI is, is old school TRI. No logistics *******s, No fat, no carebears.....well except Helen.
haha no carebears.... plexfarmers..  |