Posted - 2008.08.14 00:46:00 - [241]

 

Originally by: SomeHardLovin

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For those thinking TRI is invading for prime ratting space or plex running I have news for ya.. that ain't it. Our space sucks for ratting/plex running :P I think that's been discussed before ad nausium lol.

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My fleet of hulks will run your systems (ooops our systems) dry!!

Posted - 2008.08.14 01:52:00 - [243]

 

Edited by: Gjs312 on 14/08/2008 01:52:28

Originally by: Graalum

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Originally by: Gjs312

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This thread has turned into a slapfest between forum superstars omeega, cippadkjfklsjda;fk, and bitter dog with some wesley thrown in and im totally lovin' it. Someone make some posts about relevance or something please it will be great.

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if i jump in does it get better or worse?


*i need some e-props :P*

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Brotha this crazy train is only going foward hop on in.

Posted - 2008.08.14 02:33:00 - [245]

 

Originally by: Dragonzchilde

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Edited by: Dragonzchilde on 13/08/2008 23:34:26
Edited by: Dragonzchilde on 13/08/2008 23:33:23
Thanx Pure for bringing "it"

- 154 men gang * check *
- dictors * check *
- nano's (omg nerf em) * check *
- balls (at least in the beginning) * check *
- lag * check *
- competent pilots ... errr who?
- uber fc's ? what's that?
- Hydra .... sitting at the pos watching rust take over


Thanks to Tri for bringing "it"

- 90 men gang * check *
- nano's (nerf em bad) * check *
- dictors *check *
- balls (twink can i have em back, you squeezed them dry) * check *
- f4cer4pe * doublecheck *


also thanks for getting me at 300 kills since i joined BE a month ago. This officially makes me the corp slacker., actually at 150 the other were done before that

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I'm glad you're having fun rolling in your own stink of win. If things were decided by one win or loss I'm sure we'd all jump on your bandwagon of coolness to coolsville.
Anyone can screw up, lose a fleet, have a bad day or week. There's a good reason why Pure. doesn't come here to join in sycophantic threads like this: it detracts from the game and really makes you look like one trick ponies.

Posted - 2008.08.14 06:58:00 - [247]

 

Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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Originally by: One Chance

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It's been stated several times that the attack is opportunistic, noone is denying it. If BoB wasn't attacking the NC, yes, we would have been blobbed to death by now.

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And nothing guarantees you won't be

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You are pretty bitter spamming all TRI threads. Did someone touch you in wrong place? And why did you run from CEI - not enough for your 'skills'?

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You are pretty bitter spamming with posts about RZR. Did someone touch you in wrong place? And why did you run from RZR - not enough plexes for you?

Posted - 2008.08.14 07:30:00 - [249]

 

Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 14/08/2008 07:30:42

Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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You are pretty bitter spamming all TRI threads. Did someone touch you in wrong place? And why did you run from CEI - not enough for your 'skills'?

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You are pretty bitter spamming with posts about RZR. Did someone touch you in wrong place? And why did you run from RZR - not enough plexes for you?

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This is post about TRI from what i see, i dont feel aroused enough to run and post in every RZR thread (yes you can even check it yourself - managed to evade most of them actually).

As for plexes - since i left for the 1st time i didnt need to do them - inventions bring much more ISK than you might imagine.

So what about you? Still bitter i see coz ya running "rampage" again with your bull****.

Posted - 2008.08.14 08:19:00 - [251]

 

Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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This is post about TRI from what i see, i dont feel aroused enough to run and post in every RZR thread (yes you can even check it yourself - managed to evade most of them actually).

As for plexes - since i left for the 1st time i didnt need to do them - inventions bring much more ISK than you might imagine.

So what about you? Still bitter i see coz ya running "rampage" again with your bull****.

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Well, thanks for your confessions. But I couldn't care less about them. The plex thing was something that I heard and obviously, I wrote it was a "trol".

For a lot of occasions, I'm here to snipe and entertain myself when I'm bored for whatever reason. For a few occasions I post stuff that I find it's not actually entertainment.

There is a least one thing about this game that many of you hotshots don't understand.

It's not difficult to coordinate people that share many goals and features and have been recruited to fulfill those goals and also have the prerequisites for this fulfillment. That's why TRI is good at having a very good k/d and that's why they are good at finding targets of opportunity.

However, it's very difficult to coordinate people in different entities that have other priorities in Eve than just have a killboard saturated with kills. People might enjoy or "enjoy" fueling a POS, doing logistics, planting POSes, mining, doing missions, constructing, inventing, trading or some time to time just connect on TS or ingame to have a chat. There are also recruits with low experience that have to be integrated to the group. There are people that do this too, you know, not every alliance has 20-30mil sp recruiting requirements.

Actually, the first edition of TRI failed quite miserably at many aspects that I mentioned before. "Fail" is harsh word, that the hotshots like you love to use, but you have a hard time admitting that it suits you quite well due to some reasons.

Even more so, it's quite difficult to coordinate people in different entities (alliances) that have different playing "traditions", schedules or spoken languages and don't share the same alliance chat, mail or forums.

The NC have created bounds between themselves, bounds of friendship and of loyalty. They are trying to make this work and also give their members the chance to play the game as it is, not just play it on the killboard. That's a thing from which TRI will run away.

So, while TRI prides itself for being better as a whole alliance at playing the game on the killboard, you have actually failed in many places.

Posted - 2008.08.14 08:52:00 - [253]

 

Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 14/08/2008 08:54:26

Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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However, it's very difficult to coordinate people in different entities that have other priorities in Eve than just have a killboard saturated with kills. People might enjoy or "enjoy" fueling a POS, doing logistics, planting POSes, mining, doing missions, constructing, inventing, trading or some time to time just connect on TS or ingame to have a chat. There are also recruits with low experience that have to be integrated to the group. There are people that do this too, you know, not every alliance has 20-30mil sp recruiting requirements.

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Both i and you know that "SP requirements" are just general idea and many people under the bar managed to get into said corps. Its just general idea of how well skilled character should be. And yea - i do enjoy different things too - and i do them all (of ALL things in EVE i didnt do thejre is only: piloting supercap and leading corp/alliance left out - both of which dont interest me at all).

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Actually, the first edition of TRI failed quite miserably at many aspects that I mentioned before. "Fail" is harsh word, that the hotshots like you love to use, but you have a hard time admitting that it suits you quite well due to some reasons.

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Its easy to see flaws, but you still missing the fact that any "corp/alliance roam" in which we would do the outbreak-style "move all ships there, roam around" would result in owners of space having big OSHT moment. IAC chestbeats about RQM episode yet they still forget they were getting farmed like hydra is getting farmed now. And it was exactly same with all alliances when we moved around - they were just getting farmed (even just after leaving TRI and moving to HED area we scored around 100bil in damage within less than a month).

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Even more so, it's quite difficult to coordinate people in different entities (alliances) that have different playing "traditions", schedules or spoken languages and don't share the same alliance chat, mail or forums.

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Dunno... all in all only 1 intel channel is enough (which is often hijacked by random stuff anyways ;p).

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The NC have created bounds between themselves, bounds of friendship and of loyalty. They are trying to make this work and also give their members the chance to play the game as it is, not just play it on the killboard. That's a thing from which TRI will run away.

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Dunno if you missed the fact but i was in the north (NC even if you prefer) from almost the beggining (at least from moving out from PB towards tenal along with D2). And even if they are friends (which i agree they do) the chestbeating from some people is hilarious at best.

Also the major part: TRI does play with handicap they created themselves. Its called "no napfests" which till now almost no alliances managed to do. And of all those alliances who did accept this handicap TRI was and is the most succesful one. If you say we "fail" even in this then show me someone who is better. So its EXACTLY as you say: we play the game by rules we set, same as little joe might be "succesful in mining cronkite".

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and chestbeating example?

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Pretty sure this applies to MM and co as well, but the general opinion in RAZOR is we like you guys around, you provide a crucial service in reducing the carebear population. That's why the prior arrangement worked out well, both sides had people to shoot pretty much on demand without serious sov concerns. I think we both know how Vale is going to play out, the moment we have some free time you guys will be gone in a weekend and back in Venal, there won't really be any good fights out of it.

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I love how he tries to predict the future using crystal ball and already shows himself as great winner. Oh yea - and its mostly people with his attitude (+ total boredom) made me quit razor in 1st place. TBH thx guys, found much better company.

Posted - 2008.08.14 09:04:00 - [255]

 

Originally by: Centauris

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Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 08:56:52

Originally by: Wesley Baird

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Originally by: Veldya

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NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die.

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You mean like Razor, MM, Iron etc are leaving Hydra to die?!!?

LOL LOL LOL

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Also i cant be bothered quoting the other guy who said TRI helped us with removing Mpire, that isnt exactly true. On our 1st or 2nd attempt they did, the one where mpire camped gates with caps and the node crashed etc etc, but that attempt was unsuccessful, the final (and successful, 3rd time is a charm) attempt was done without TRI involvement.

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While looking back to the Tri / NC / BKG conflict, while I don't think Tri are the sole reason (that would be stupid) for the destruction of MPire/Fatal and the others, I'm fairly sure that we were a significant catalyst. On the first night of Tri involvement, we brought a fleet of around 200, with 100-150 battleships if I remember correctly. Our fleet was larger than the entire NC fleet that was also there, and in MUCH better quality ships. I think that's when Mpire realised they couldn't win, and started to collapse.

So before you say that the defeat of Mpire and co. was done entirely without Tri...remember it wasn't

Posted - 2008.08.14 10:17:00 - [257]

 

Allow me to add my pow. in the BKG fighting:

It was one of these massive battle scenarios pitting 2 forces of nearly identical strength in just 1 system and we all know what that feels like. The old north and TRI were victorious that first evening but it could easily have gone the other way and that attack didn't break the spirit of Mpire et. al.
But this New North Coalition had 1 weak link, Fallen Souls had provided 60 or more pilots in BKG and were direct neighbours to TRI. TRI pulled out of BKG and attacked Fallen Souls, followed 3 days later by an attack from the old north against Fallens Branch stations. This led to the collapse of Fallen Souls and thus weakening Mpires coalition. TRI took no part in BKG part 3(?) that victory belongs to RZR, MM and their friends iirc. with aid from Smashkill.

Posted - 2008.08.14 10:40:00 - [259]

 

Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 10:43:32

Originally by: One Chance

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So before you say that the defeat of Mpire and co. was done entirely without Tri...remember it wasn't

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I suggest you re read mate what i wrote. I mentioned your involvement and also simply added that you were not present in the final and successful destruction of Mpire. Sure you played a role over all, as did everyone. I did not mention anywhere that TRI done nothing or anything along those lines so please dont make out like i did

Your thoughts on TRI in better ships and outnumbered the whole NC fleet etc is also very narrow sighted and i suggest you take a better look back, not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse is the exact type of massive epeen stuff i expect to see from the "New Tri" now.

Posted - 2008.08.14 12:32:00 - [261]

 

Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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Originally by: One Chance

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It's been stated several times that the attack is opportunistic, noone is denying it. If BoB wasn't attacking the NC, yes, we would have been blobbed to death by now.

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And nothing guarantees you won't be

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You are pretty bitter spamming all TRI threads. Did someone touch you in wrong place? And why did you run from CEI - not enough for your 'skills'?

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You are pretty bitter spamming with posts about RZR. Did someone touch you in wrong place? And why did you run from RZR - not enough plexes for you?

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No.I think both Deva and Lovekaplex both got enough of taste , of both RzR and CEI.Think it speaks for itself. Both pilots are knowledgeable(albeit suicide monkies)of game mechanics and in RzR there is only room for one of those guys.amairite?!?

God forbid your effective at playing the game when not attached to that muppets hip. CEI is always good at name calling and belittling others when they are not focus of any major happening/op in RzR.

Posted - 2008.08.14 13:13:00 - [263]

 

Originally by: Arkanjuca

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I want to ask you a bunch of questions, and i want them answered imediatly!
Whos your daddy and what does he do?!?!?

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You know boys have a p.enis, and girls have a vagina?

Posted - 2008.08.14 13:38:00 - [265]

 

Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 13:39:26

Originally by: Karlvon

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Trolling ***

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Whatever gets your rocks off

And wes get over yourself mate, your views are so far off the mark its not funny man.

Posted - 2008.08.14 13:42:00 - [267]

 

Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 13:42:43

Originally by: Wesley Baird

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Originally by: Centauris

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You obviously are not very smart wes whats that saying about victories need sacrifices or something...and surely you are not that narrow minded to know why we couldnt exactly blob vale.

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Its true Im not the smartest of kids on this board, thanks for pointing it out and making me feel bad about myself

At least you are honest enough to admit your clever strategy for retaking vale.

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We Blob, We are the North, its on CAOD. Ofc its true mate Why do ppl always point out the obvious to me, its all in my posts, i did write them :)

Posted - 2008.08.14 13:57:00 - [269]

 

Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Centauris

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Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 10:43:32

Originally by: One Chance

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So before you say that the defeat of Mpire and co. was done entirely without Tri...remember it wasn't

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I suggest you re read mate what i wrote. I mentioned your involvement and also simply added that you were not present in the final and successful destruction of Mpire. Sure you played a role over all, as did everyone. I did not mention anywhere that TRI done nothing or anything along those lines so please dont make out like i did

Your thoughts on TRI in better ships and outnumbered the whole NC fleet etc is also very narrow sighted and i suggest you take a better look back, not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse is the exact type of massive epeen stuff i expect to see from the "New Tri" now.

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He has a point about NC participation levels.

When you look at the sheer numbers in the NC, one thing I've found suprising (and it happened in the INSRG conflict) is that we would often match your cap fleets (with TRI we completely outclassed you).

Clearly, it's not that you don't have the hardware, its just that there is a much greater proportion of selfish carebears in NC alliances than in TRI or in INRSG (RIP).

The average TRI member, and in the past the average INSRG member, is/was far more keen to get their expensive hardware on the field than the average NC member. Which is why TRI alone could kick any NC alliance to the kerb, not just Hydra. I'm sure they will prove that in time.

I think it is about a lack of confidence in your own abilities - this also explains the blob mentality. You find any entity which doesnt conform to your cowardly modus operandi threatening. And rightly so. Because generally such entites are much, much better than any individual NC alliance at la pew pew.

But you're great at fuelling POS etc. Someone's gotta do it ;)

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well... then there is this little thing called real life that some people have and some obviously dont..