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Deva Blackfire
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2008.08.21 01:11:00 - [331]
 

Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 21/08/2008 01:12:25
Originally by: Anen0mie

Iron/Razor/MM have played like that before I stopped playing. I can only imagine from the little I know about your alliance's history that you were perfectly aware of the numbers seeing as though you just fought them didn't you before you broke up.

*mom I touched some fire and it was hot, what a suprise*


Read up again (unless you are an analphabet, then nothing will help ya). Most of us dont mind being outnumbered as long as game is playable. We will engage 40 vs 250 and we did this all the time yesterday - but only after lag cleared. When everything is lagged to **** you cant do anything.

But yea i know NC after the "omg lets kill bob" prefers goon tactics: ie lag out everything and hope for cheap kills. But whatever - even when we were lagged we were dealing enough damage to kill sum caps.

EDIT:
logged on a bit too late today so missed major fights. Managed only to get some skirmishes in the end and major "OMG we have ONLY 2:1 numbers, lets run!!!" pure tatics.

Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Posted - 2008.08.21 01:21:00 - [332]
 

you're the ones wanting the good fights, we mostly want you out :p

Sagnid
Minmatar
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.21 01:31:00 - [333]
 

Edited by: Sagnid on 21/08/2008 01:31:50
Originally by: Splagada
you're the ones wanting the good fights, we mostly want you out :p


So that explains why instead of fighting for your space, you all go back to empire and call your friends?

Kalissa
Caldari
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.08.21 02:44:00 - [334]
 

Lag for me was nowhere on the scale of what it was like last night, sure there was a couple of secs locking and module lag but nothing to spoil the fun.

The first tower that the NC attacked came out of reinforced about an hour ago and has been repped and re-stronted and modules are being onlined again.

I am very proud that Tri did as well as it did considering the (lets be generous here) 4:1 odds.

The NC had by my count at least 40 dreads I would say maybe more in C-F with carriers on top of that. Several Tri towers were placed into reinforced.

If I were Bob I'd take good advantage of this, if NC has 300 people down here in Vale then thats 300 thats not there to defend VFK. Be a real shame if the price for saving Hydra was losing all of the North to Bob wouldn't it? Very Happy

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.21 03:05:00 - [335]
 

Originally by: Ackaroth
Originally by: Graalum
first of all it was only rk and atlas, no fang/smash/chaos


Dont mean to burst your bubble mate, but smash was there with your gangs... with peoke being there on an almost nightly basis. Dont you remember, he was the one smacking in local saying he would send TRI to empire. I have it in my bio, altho it only has a timestamp, no date.


i'm talking about the initial movement up, and that first fight, which was 95% rk and atlas. After quite a bit of emo-rage, peoke let smash come up and came himself.

Kuzya Morozov
Gallente
Capital Construction Research
Posted - 2008.08.21 03:11:00 - [336]
 

needs more nano whine nerf/cloaked ravens

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.21 03:27:00 - [337]
 

Edited by: Graalum on 21/08/2008 03:27:46
Originally by: Kuzya Morozov
needs more nano whine nerf/cloaked ravens


lets fast forward to nerf plates/trimarks/remote reps/logistics/omni tanks

Newsflash
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.08.21 03:35:00 - [338]
 

Originally by: Kalissa
Lag for me was nowhere on the scale of what it was like last night, sure there was a couple of secs locking and module lag but nothing to spoil the fun.

The first tower that the NC attacked came out of reinforced about an hour ago and has been repped and re-stronted and modules are being onlined again.

I am very proud that Tri did as well as it did considering the (lets be generous here) 4:1 odds.

The NC had by my count at least 40 dreads I would say maybe more in C-F with carriers on top of that. Several Tri towers were placed into reinforced.

If I were Bob I'd take good advantage of this, if NC has 300 people down here in Vale then thats 300 thats not there to defend VFK. Be a real shame if the price for saving Hydra was losing all of the North to Bob wouldn't it? Very Happy


read above: BOB please halp!

Aya
Gallente
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.21 03:45:00 - [339]
 

Originally by: Newsflash
Originally by: Kalissa
Lag for me was nowhere on the scale of what it was like last night, sure there was a couple of secs locking and module lag but nothing to spoil the fun.

The first tower that the NC attacked came out of reinforced about an hour ago and has been repped and re-stronted and modules are being onlined again.

I am very proud that Tri did as well as it did considering the (lets be generous here) 4:1 odds.

The NC had by my count at least 40 dreads I would say maybe more in C-F with carriers on top of that. Several Tri towers were placed into reinforced.

If I were Bob I'd take good advantage of this, if NC has 300 people down here in Vale then thats 300 thats not there to defend VFK. Be a real shame if the price for saving Hydra was losing all of the North to Bob wouldn't it? Very Happy


read above: BOB please halp!


read above: Save hydra (which has 900 members now) and lose IRON and Deklein. As well as risking the next stage in MAX.

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.21 06:05:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Aya
Originally by: Newsflash
Originally by: Kalissa
Lag for me was nowhere on the scale of what it was like last night, sure there was a couple of secs locking and module lag but nothing to spoil the fun.

The first tower that the NC attacked came out of reinforced about an hour ago and has been repped and re-stronted and modules are being onlined again.

I am very proud that Tri did as well as it did considering the (lets be generous here) 4:1 odds.

The NC had by my count at least 40 dreads I would say maybe more in C-F with carriers on top of that. Several Tri towers were placed into reinforced.

If I were Bob I'd take good advantage of this, if NC has 300 people down here in Vale then thats 300 thats not there to defend VFK. Be a real shame if the price for saving Hydra was losing all of the North to Bob wouldn't it? Very Happy


read above: BOB please halp!


read above: Save hydra (which has 900 members now) and lose IRON and Deklein. As well as risking the next stage in MAX.


don't for get malpais Cool

Brigsby5987
Caldari
Imperial Guard.
Posted - 2008.08.21 06:32:00 - [341]
 

Originally by: Graalum
Edited by: Graalum on 21/08/2008 03:27:46
Originally by: Kuzya Morozov
needs more nano whine nerf/cloaked ravens


lets fast forward to nerf plates/trimarks/remote reps/logistics/omni tanks


You need all that or the nano to counter the god damn blobs in this game. The nano rebalance atleast gives me the option of pvping in nano OR tank and actually being able to kill stuff just as easily.

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.21 06:38:00 - [342]
 

Originally by: Newsflash
read above: BOB please halp!


Meh, I just login my BOB char when the lag is too bad in Vale or the other way around...so doesnt really matter to me...


ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
Pulsar Nebulah
Army of Lovers.
Posted - 2008.08.21 06:44:00 - [343]
 

Originally by: Newsflash

read above: BOB please halp!


Maybe it will surprise you but it was initial plan. To attack Hydra alone when NC is occuppied with BoB in Deklein. Saving us the pleasures of lag.

We can fight outnumbered, even with 1:4 mods but it requires lag-free game. When fighting heavy outnumbered you need to rely on skill of FC and skill of pilots. Sadly in lag heavy environment you can't rely on it.

We didn't get many fights from Hydra despite them being three times of our size. Instead they brought a blob from north.

From their point of view it's perfect plan and it seems to work. I wouldn't complain at all should it not bring a huge game breaking lag.

So yes, I hope that BoB puts more pressure on NC. I hope they will cut the NC blob in Vale in half so I can actually warp/lock/reload in less then 15min and enjoy the game.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.08.21 07:07:00 - [344]
 

And the NC wonders why everyone wants them dead...

Diverting your main fighting forces to fight a 600 man alliance by making systems unplayable. GG.

But the real loser here is, of course, the NC. GBC will chew through Deklein, IRON will die, and the rest will fall like dominos. But that really is up to the NC to prevent, no amount of sensible advice from others can make up for their strategic shortcomings.


Sinder Ohm
Caldari
Demonic Corp
G00DFELLAS
Posted - 2008.08.21 07:25:00 - [345]
 

GO TRI!! you deserve to win this tbfh.

gamarus
Caldari
Ridiculously Proposed Guildname
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:08:00 - [346]
 

I have to correct you Butter Dog; we are now with the addition of Exceed. just a bit more than 900 in TRI. Just so you aren't trolled by the first character that looks us up ingame or whatnot.


Karlvon
Gallente
x100x
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:12:00 - [347]
 

Well meanwhile seems the drone triumvirate (russians+ed+irc) seem dismantling iron sov 4 constellation in malpais. As Bob is attacking i30, dont think triumvirate drawing pure/mm/allies forces to vale was pointless.

Iron without space...a dream coming true. Seems nap everything in range of 5000 ly is a good way to fight tbh.

Needa3
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:17:00 - [348]
 

damm wife aggro, seems i missed some pew Sad

El'Shaitan
Caldari
Blue Sky torpedoes
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:27:00 - [349]
 

Originally by: Kalissa

I am very proud that Tri did as well as it did considering the (lets be generous here) 4:1 odds.

The NC had by my count at least 40 dreads I would say maybe more in C-F with carriers on top of that.

If I were Bob I'd take good advantage of this, if NC has 300 people down here in Vale then thats 300 thats not there to defend VFK.


Most TRI posts in this thread basicly translates into this:

"I dont mind fighting outnumbered and this is what we want. Stop saying that I am whining, its just that its laggy honest. btw: I just _have_ to mention the ratio every single second, and how well we did in regards to that ratio, and mumble a little about how pathetic that makes the NC.

But even though we dont care about space and just want good fights; BoB save us plz?"

Advice: stop chestbeating about numbers, just fight and give battlereports. If you win 10vs100 we will notice it. You wont have to mention it. You will earn more e-peen respect by not being so blatantly obvious about it.

Readers arent dumb, however you wrap in what I so harshly wrote up there you come out blatantly obvious.

Monkey Rat
Caldari
Silver Snake Enterprise
Skunk-Works
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:31:00 - [350]
 

God I love Hydra and the NC. I underestimated Tri, they're very good, but now I know what it's like to be part of a real coalition after seeing the support from PURE, MM & Co.


Rudi Storm
Minmatar
SGL
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:40:00 - [351]
 

^^ That is really something to be proud of!

Karlvon
Gallente
x100x
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:49:00 - [352]
 

Originally by: Monkey Rat
God I love Hydra and the NC. I underestimated Tri, they're very good, but now I know what it's like to be part of a real coalition after seeing the support from PURE, MM & Co.




So you fell love with useless alliance offering roadkill space+possible titan jsut to make them help you out, giving pure space for th aid and throqing money left and right to save the right to rat and mine.

Have you thought that becoming a renter for a competent alliance might solve all your nightmares and make you fell better when you go to bed ?

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:49:00 - [353]
 

Originally by: Monkey Rat
God I love Hydra and the NC. I underestimated Tri, they're very good, but now I know what it's like to be part of a real coalition after seeing the support from PURE, MM & Co.




If everyone with your attitude quit the game, it would improve EVE greatly.

Alas, the cowardly 'blob them until it takes 15 minutes to activate a module' mentality is what the NC basically stand for. And that is why everyone wants you dead.


Steve Holt
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2008.08.21 08:53:00 - [354]
 

Originally by: Monkey Rat
God I love Hydra and the NC. I underestimated Tri, they're very good, but now I know what it's like to be part of a real coalition after seeing the support from PURE, MM & Co.




It wont help

btw only exspect pure to stick around mm r selfish they will withdraw soon

gamarus
Caldari
Ridiculously Proposed Guildname
Posted - 2008.08.21 09:17:00 - [355]
 

Edited by: gamarus on 21/08/2008 09:19:52
Very well a report of last nights battles has been requested!

(This will naturally be from the TRI perspective)
Around 1800 eve time a formup was called in TVN. Ships of choice: our trusty nanoswarm. Attendance was somewhat lackluster with a maximum of 85 pilots compared to the 150 tuesday but focus today would be on the NC supportgroup and any stragglers from the capship group.
We got into C-FP and engaged in the first of many skirmishes i believe it was on our ingate, 1-G.
This first battle was fairly laggy, with around 300 in local and caps entering their first siege. but some GM must have had his sights on the system, because after this first engagement things ran smoothly with maybe 10-15 secs loadlag when posses weren't involved and 3-5 secs modulelag, and that as said with around 300 in local.
Many skirmishes were faught over the next coupple of hours, till finally the TRI fleet would hold the field after each engagement.
Shortly after, the NC caps cynoed out, welther that was because they had run out of posses to shoot, the time of the day or the fear that we would turn our attention to them I can not say. But this led to the last big engagement of the night in C-FP; as the caps were cynoing; out a moros and a chimaera was caught by a bubble and we dropped out around the tower. Our orders were to get range to the caps, keep them on the field and prepare for the NC support. They came in, probably warping straight to the moon, and we engaged them.
Their sole focus seemed to be to remowe the tackles on the caps and in that they succeeded but at a fairly steep price. (Our FC was his usual irate mood when loosing tackles on caps Rolling Eyes)
The NC support regrouped and jumped into T-ZW. This was spotted and before they had time to get off the gate we were among them. In moments 5 dictor bubbles (3 must have been NC) encapsulated the C-FP gate in T-ZW and a furious 7 minute battle ensued. In that little skirmish alone, more than 30 ships perrished (both sides but split with 7 TRI and rest yellow. With Exceed. now in TRI 3:1 kills seems reasonable), and another 5 NC ships were probed down in the aftermath.
I went home to TVN after this engagement. The time must have been around midnight EVE time. I don't think any in the support fleets (TRI and NC) had more than 30 minutes down time in that 4 hour period.
I understand that the 2 towers that came out over the night were both saved and are fully operational again, extending our presence in Vale Wink
I look forward to tonight, where several towers will come out of reinforced in our shared primetime. See you all on the field.

KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.21 09:54:00 - [356]
 

I don't see why people are so down on Hydra for calling in help?

Hydra have never proffessed to be PvP Ubers, they know their strengths and weaknesses, as do their friends, killing Hydra is walk in the park for Tri, but taking their space, thats a different matter, you cant expect their freinds to sit by idle, no one wants Tri as neighbours after all.

I have a lot of respect for Tri, and like many of their members (although the percentage of Tri peeps i like has fallen a little since BE joining them Wink), but tbh the smack and arrogance that have accompanied their killing of Hydra is pretty stupid.

Tri shouldn't be boasting and lording it over Hydra just because they have them beaten, because Hydra have the one thing that Tri doesn't posess, and thats the ability to build good relationships. That is the reason I suspect that come the end of this tussle, Hydra will still own 0.0 space, and Tri won't.

NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.21 10:08:00 - [357]
 

Originally by: KIAEddZ

That is the reason I suspect that come the end of this tussle, Hydra will still own 0.0 space, and Tri won't.


What's preventing us from just sieging all those systems again when the blob leaves?
Stont and towers are cheap :p And getting 1000+ kills a week ain't to bad either for a relatively small alliance.

The NC is only throwing in their own windows with this, after stating a couple of times that they love it to have us as neighbours.
My guess is that they need an "easy" victory atm to keep morale up and people logging in for the fight against BoB.

KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.21 10:18:00 - [358]
 

Originally by: NokNok


The NC is only throwing in their own windows with this, after stating a couple of times that they love it to have us as neighbours.
My guess is that they need an "easy" victory atm to keep morale up and people logging in for the fight against BoB.


NC want Tri as neighbours?

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.08.21 10:25:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: KIAEddZ


NC want Tri as neighbours?


Some of the more level-headed NC leaders do indeed want that. It keeps their carebears on their toes, and keeps their PvPers occupied and prevents them leaving because everything else within 100 jumps is blue.

Also, Eddz, you're missing the strategic flaw in their current plan. IRON, a much more important NC ally than Hydra, are having all their stations removed in both the drone regions (Solar, xxxxXXXxxdeath, etc) and Deklein (GBC).

If the NC actually diverted their main force which is currently deployed against TRI, towards BoB or the Drone coalition... they might actually stop IRON being removed from the Sov map within the next week or two.


Acapulco Bold
Minmatar
Cash n'Go
Posted - 2008.08.21 10:26:00 - [360]
 

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