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Thimerion
Minmatar
BOAE INC
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.08.20 13:14:00 - [301]
 

So, What is going to happen when pure and MM eventually force Tri out of vale?

Are they going to just give it back to Hydra?

or....

Will they keep it for themselves?


Personally i don't think Hydar deserves to get it back, or at least hydra leadership as it stands dose not deserve it back.

If i had to guese i would sey it will be rented out, possibly eaven back to hydra, if they don't implode first that is.

El'Shaitan
Caldari
Blue Sky torpedoes
Posted - 2008.08.20 13:23:00 - [302]
 

Originally by: Thimerion
So, What is going to happen when pure and MM eventually force Tri out of vale?


They will probably just rent it out to TRI.

Lemonx
Minmatar
Sour Lemons
Posted - 2008.08.20 13:23:00 - [303]
 

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Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.20 13:58:00 - [304]
 

Originally by: Thimerion
So, What is going to happen when pure and MM eventually force Tri out of vale?

Are they going to just give it back to Hydra?

or....

Will they keep it for themselves?


Personally i don't think Hydar deserves to get it back, or at least hydra leadership as it stands dose not deserve it back.

If i had to guese i would sey it will be rented out, possibly eaven back to hydra, if they don't implode first that is.


Secret deal is that Hydra "agreed" to give some systems to PURE in return for their aid...


Thimerion
Minmatar
BOAE INC
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.08.20 14:03:00 - [305]
 

and aid is quite obviouslly code for come in and do it for them while they stey where it is warm and dry....

Loike
Caldari
The Alpha and the Omega
Posted - 2008.08.20 14:35:00 - [306]
 

Originally by: Thimerion
and aid is quite obviouslly code for come in and do it for them while they stey where it is warm and dry....


Hydra were present in the C-F fleet last night, in relatively high support numbers. I've no idea how many capitals were Hydra, but from past experience I'm going to guess not many.

Julius Scipio
Amarr
Ad Astra Vexillum
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2008.08.20 14:53:00 - [307]
 

Originally by: Thimerion
and aid is quite obviouslly code for come in and do it for them while they stey where it is warm and dry....


Thimerion I'm not sure why you continue to smack us. Its only to be expected from Tri but you RAN AWAY mate. Not sure how that gives you any credibility.

It was particularly warm and dry getting on the killmails of the original poster of this thread who was sitting lagged out next to me in C-F last night. Smile

Thimerion
Minmatar
BOAE INC
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.08.20 15:10:00 - [308]
 

Julius as you well know we started packing our bags about 2 weeks beffore Tri came along so i assure you it was nothing to do with them.

I was actually half way through typing a "i Hope hydra do come out of this on top because they have allot of good members" post.

I think you know the reason we left, this being the reason that many other corps have left hydra, lets just hope that if you guys do come out of this with your space in tact the guys at the top take a serious look at the way things are run.

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.20 15:28:00 - [309]
 

Originally by: Julius Scipio
It was particularly warm and dry getting on the killmails of the original poster of this thread who was sitting lagged out next to me in C-F last night. Smile


Kills are kills...but there really can't be much joy in getting on a KM of someone completely lagged out...unless that is the only way you can get kills I guess...


Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Posted - 2008.08.20 15:48:00 - [310]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Julius Scipio
It was particularly warm and dry getting on the killmails of the original poster of this thread who was sitting lagged out next to me in C-F last night. Smile


Kills are kills...but there really can't be much joy in getting on a KM of someone completely lagged out...unless that is the only way you can get kills I guess...




I know who to ask for GM Gandalf if you need :p

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.20 17:51:00 - [311]
 

Originally by: Splagada
I know who to ask for GM Gandalf if you need :p


My point isnt a slam on the lag, lag happens and swings in random directions, although one would assume, the more pilots you have, the more of a chance that matters will in the end swing your way, but that is not a certainty. My point is that I wouldn't be thrilled to get on someones killmail knowing the only reason he is dieing is because he is lagged out. Winning is something which I think people will be satisfied with, even with lag...but actual individual kills wouldn't be what I would crow about...


Shad0w Hawk
Caldari
The Pro Choice
B O R G
Posted - 2008.08.20 19:56:00 - [312]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Julius Scipio
It was particularly warm and dry getting on the killmails of the original poster of this thread who was sitting lagged out next to me in C-F last night. Smile


Kills are kills...but there really can't be much joy in getting on a KM of someone completely lagged out...unless that is the only way you can get kills I guess...




Proof #1 that you are clearly a bob spy sir. A real UDIE member wouldn't care at all.

Manu Hermanus
Caldari
FaDoyToy
Posted - 2008.08.20 21:19:00 - [313]
 

Edited by: Manu Hermanus on 20/08/2008 21:18:50
FIRST!!!! oops, few days late on that one

I hear rowlandos docked up in that station and gave it herpes ewwwww Embarassed

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.20 21:21:00 - [314]
 

Originally by: Shad0w Hawk
Proof #1 that you are clearly a bob spy sir. A real UDIE member wouldn't care at all.


Shhhhhhhh Embarassed

You are going to spoil the surprise tomorrow...


Vladic Ka
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.20 21:25:00 - [315]
 

So have any towers been dropped yet?

Cheeva
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.08.20 21:32:00 - [316]
 

no towers seem to be down yet but i heard towers will be coming out soon as in us tz

Kurt Armstr0ng
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.08.20 21:56:00 - [317]
 

Looks like lots of lag and one massive blob, going for the record of how many people you can get in one system nc?

Solitude Dominia
Caldari
D00M.
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.08.20 22:28:00 - [318]
 

Looks like 50 TRI vs 250 NC.

I think that the NC may be waiting until they have the advantage of numbers before they engage

Laughing

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.20 22:35:00 - [319]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
You want to be accurate in your statements, but actually you're pretty flawed.

If Hydra disbands (dies), it's for their own fault. If they loose their space, they are just another alliance that lost it and can take it back with or without help.

Why are you flawed? Because that's exactly what happened to TRI 3-4 months ago.


I'm not sure if we have a language issue here or not, but I don't see how Tri collapsing 4 months ago makes me flawed.

We had a poster crowing how the NC are such great allies and would never let anyone of them die alone...which is exactly what they are doing to Hydra.

Don't come here and be all "Smashkill" about how strong your coalition is when you are letting the weakest member in it die.



ouch wes, ouch.

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.20 22:44:00 - [320]
 

Originally by: Aya
Edited by: Aya on 15/08/2008 01:03:25
Edited by: Aya on 15/08/2008 01:02:39
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Edited by: Wesley Baird on 15/08/2008 00:44:55
Originally by: Negra Neve
One wonders why the hell you stayed with triumvirate all that time your alliance held space. Rolling Eyes

I assume if tri starts holding 0.0 again you'll quit? Because owning stations means blobing, POS warfare and yes.. sometimes sitting @ a station camping a gate for a month.

Everyone loves a lag free fight. But like the other guy wrote. The NC didin't make the gamerules and we DO hold space, remeber? It used to belong to you.


Shows how little you know...what is the biggest Tri gang you have ever seen??? Let me tell you it is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds less than 600...(and i do mean ever)

But go on and talk outta your butt about the massive gangs we put together with 500 characters in our alliance (say 200 or so people...)

Oh ya, and just for the record...do you think being part of Burn Eden I mind for one second sitting on a gate for a month?! Shocked Seriously...mine less, pvp more...


Biggest TRI gang I ever saw was when RK attack plans were leaked to Tri leadership. Tri fit 350 people into VFK (included about 100 ATF and 50 or so other randoms). That gang was large enough to scare Smashkill into attacking a system of no importance and lose about 20 caps in the first day they tried to do it.

Average Tri gang is about 100, and willing to fight about 200 people with it


first of all it was only rk and atlas, no fang/smash/chaos, second of all we were meaning to hit dyspro moons first, not jump into cyno-jammed systems with 80 carriers on the gate. The actual attack wasn't supposed to be for another week, and peoke flipped **** when he logged on and learned that we'd lost 30 caps that day (chaos also lost about 10 hotdropping an irc gang and getting counter-hotdropped while heading to fdz)

Annapolis
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.08.20 22:53:00 - [321]
 

Edited by: Annapolis on 20/08/2008 22:54:44
Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Aya
Edited by: Aya on 15/08/2008 01:03:25
Edited by: Aya on 15/08/2008 01:02:39
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Edited by: Wesley Baird on 15/08/2008 00:44:55
Originally by: Negra Neve
One wonders why the hell you stayed with triumvirate all that time your alliance held space. Rolling Eyes

I assume if tri starts holding 0.0 again you'll quit? Because owning stations means blobing, POS warfare and yes.. sometimes sitting @ a station camping a gate for a month.

Everyone loves a lag free fight. But like the other guy wrote. The NC didin't make the gamerules and we DO hold space, remeber? It used to belong to you.


Shows how little you know...what is the biggest Tri gang you have ever seen??? Let me tell you it is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds less than 600...(and i do mean ever)

But go on and talk outta your butt about the massive gangs we put together with 500 characters in our alliance (say 200 or so people...)

Oh ya, and just for the record...do you think being part of Burn Eden I mind for one second sitting on a gate for a month?! Shocked Seriously...mine less, pvp more...


Biggest TRI gang I ever saw was when RK attack plans were leaked to Tri leadership. Tri fit 350 people into VFK (included about 100 ATF and 50 or so other randoms). That gang was large enough to scare Smashkill into attacking a system of no importance and lose about 20 caps in the first day they tried to do it.

Average Tri gang is about 100, and willing to fight about 200 people with it


first of all it was only rk and atlas, no fang/smash/chaos, second of all we were meaning to hit dyspro moons first, not jump into cyno-jammed systems with 80 carriers on the gate. The actual attack wasn't supposed to be for another week, and peoke flipped **** when he logged on and learned that we'd lost 30 caps that day (chaos also lost about 10 hotdropping an irc gang and getting counter-hotdropped while heading to fdz)


So basically you guys just failed at many levels in what you were " meaning " to do? ... guess loosing 30 caps would do it Embarassed

And yes while I was in tri a gang of 100 was about as big as it got. Usually anything more then 20 members in a gang and everyone would start to complain about it being too big and we wouldn't be able to get any fightsTwisted Evil

Small Bea
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.08.20 22:59:00 - [322]
 

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Ackaroth
Gallente
Plundering Penguins
Anarchy.
Posted - 2008.08.20 23:13:00 - [323]
 

Originally by: Graalum
first of all it was only rk and atlas, no fang/smash/chaos


Dont mean to burst your bubble mate, but smash was there with your gangs... with peoke being there on an almost nightly basis. Dont you remember, he was the one smacking in local saying he would send TRI to empire. I have it in my bio, altho it only has a timestamp, no date.

Zandramus
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.20 23:35:00 - [324]
 

another good night of fights

i wont even bother to guess how many people the mm/pure/co had in and out but i know the tri gang was never above 85ish at any one point

lots od dead people all over >< lots of people comeing back in new ships,sadly we jsut didnt have the numbers to engage straight up,hostile caps warped around reinforceing towers while we played with their support/bs gangs

lots of fights lots of wrecks (more hostile than friendly thankfully) was good night so far, hopefuly not over as we have tower come'n out of reinforced in few hours

idk if the nc think they need this many people to deal with us or they bring the numbers because they wana 'win' but this is what we came for and thus far,lag aside,its been ep1c

cant wait to see who they involve next tho,kinda flatering when we think bout' it :P

gf's 2nite


Anen0mie
Caldari
Bottomfeeders Science and Research
Posted - 2008.08.20 23:55:00 - [325]
 

*Whines that Hydra won't fight*

*Whines when NC bring people to fight*

Ackaroth
Gallente
Plundering Penguins
Anarchy.
Posted - 2008.08.20 23:59:00 - [326]
 

Originally by: Anen0mie
*Whines that Hydra won't fight*

*Whines when NC bring people to fight*


Who whined again? I see alot of "epic" and "cant wait for next fight"... We reading same thread?

Anen0mie
Caldari
Bottomfeeders Science and Research
Posted - 2008.08.21 00:03:00 - [327]
 

Originally by: Ackaroth
Originally by: Anen0mie
*Whines that Hydra won't fight*

*Whines when NC bring people to fight*


Who whined again? I see alot of "epic" and "cant wait for next fight"... We reading same thread?


I've only just started reading CAOD after a long break from game, but this plus SHC the two threads started with "LOL HYDRA WONT FIGHT PLEASE FIGHT MORE" to "OMG WE WERE OUTNUMBERED 5:1 SO WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING SadSadSad" and it's just a little old and a little boring.

Pat yourselves on the back for taking space from what seems to be a completely inept alliance that relied heavily on their otherwise busy friends, and then beggining to falter when those friends decided to come help.

Ademius Knortak
Minmatar
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.21 00:07:00 - [328]
 

ever thought about the fact that we don't really mind the 5:1 odds but maybe mind the game breaking and boring lag it causes when you have to bring 250 or more people?
Ah yes i forgot....

Anen0mie
Caldari
Bottomfeeders Science and Research
Posted - 2008.08.21 00:09:00 - [329]
 

Originally by: Ademius Knortak
ever thought about the fact that we don't really mind the 5:1 odds but maybe mind the game breaking and boring lag it causes when you have to bring 250 or more people?
Ah yes i forgot....


Iron/Razor/MM have played like that before I stopped playing. I can only imagine from the little I know about your alliance's history that you were perfectly aware of the numbers seeing as though you just fought them didn't you before you broke up.

*mom I touched some fire and it was hot, what a suprise*

Aya
Gallente
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.21 00:18:00 - [330]
 

I know for a fact mails are missing but the map shows 222 ships killed in C-F and 98 in T-Z in last 24 hours.

So far tri boards are showing about 45 tri losses and 160 NC losses. I would imagine numbers closer to 170-60 (including exceed and DA not getting posted to tri boards)

Not bad i guess considering the fact theyre were 70 in our fleet and 300 in local.


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