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Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.14 14:11:00 - [271]
 

Originally by: Centauris
We Blob, We are the North, its on CAOD. Ofc its true mate Razz Why do ppl always point out the obvious to me, its all in my posts, i did write them :)


Well actually its true because that is what the NC does and from my experience has always done.

It is the way you choose to play the game, and if that is fun for your members then all power to you. Personally Im not a big fan of being part of a 600+ man fleet, hence me being in a corp of less than 15 people.

To me the blob is something negative, to others that is not the case. You can have some great fun large fleet fights without system killing lag if you leave the blob at home. We have had a few fun fights with PURE fleets over the last few days, and they weren't fun because of the results, they were fun because it was 70 or so on each side actually being able to do something other than press and button and wait 15 minutes for something to happen.

Are you having fun sitting in VFK right now? Waiting hours and hours to do something, and when you do, many people don't even load Crying or Very sad I guess its all about wanting or expecting different things from this game.

Volarius
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.08.14 14:46:00 - [272]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird

Im not a big fan of being part of a 600+ man fleet, hence me being in a corp of less than 15 people.



The other 14 people in BE are his alts he uses to blob hydra.

Ackaroth
Gallente
Plundering Penguins
Anarchy.
Posted - 2008.08.14 14:54:00 - [273]
 

Originally by: Volarius
Originally by: Wesley Baird

Im not a big fan of being part of a 600+ man fleet, hence me being in a corp of less than 15 people.



The other 14 people in BE are his alts he uses to blob hydra.


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Kalissa
Caldari
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.08.14 15:13:00 - [274]
 

As was mentioned a few posts ago about "new tri and old tri" the way things are now within the alliance feels very much like how Triumvirate was in it's early days, nearly always outnumbered but never lacking the balls to take on numbers way more than it's own. But thankfully there's more of us than there were back then! Very Happy

It is also true to say that there are no carebears in Triumvirate now, only PVP'ers who are reluctantly dragged screaming and wailing and forced into putting the odd pos up or two. Tri doesnt really want to own the amount of space we did when we had Fade & Deklien infact having that much space and the work that went into it was a large contributing factor as to why Tri imploded 3 months back. (The main reason behind that is there was the feeling that the carebears were running the show btw, whether they were or not doesnt matter it just "felt" like that)

Right now I would put Tri up against any northern alliance 1v1 and on pvp ability we'd win it hands down. Thats not to say we'd be remotely logistically capable of invading the likes of MM or Razor (even if we had the desire to, which we don't) Call it arrogance or whatever but seriously man you have to see it and be in it to believe it.

What was said before was accurate... we want some space right in the middle of some people to fight with, if the NC when they have time free (which may be a while away) decide to come blob us with 500+ people to try and kick us out then they can, they may well succeed but we'll do our best to make them bleed doing it.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.08.14 15:48:00 - [275]
 

Originally by: Newsflash

well... then there is this little thing called real life that some people have and some obviously dont..


You're posting on an internet spaceship forum with an alt, then complaining others don't have a decent 'real life'.

Kinda hollow, isn't it.


Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.14 15:58:00 - [276]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Centauris
Edited by: Centauris on 14/08/2008 10:43:32
Originally by: One Chance


So before you say that the defeat of Mpire and co. was done entirely without Tri...remember it wasn't Smile


I suggest you re read mate what i wrote. I mentioned your involvement and also simply added that you were not present in the final and successful destruction of Mpire. Sure you played a role over all, as did everyone. I did not mention anywhere that TRI done nothing or anything along those lines so please dont make out like i did Cool

Your thoughts on TRI in better ships and outnumbered the whole NC fleet etc is also very narrow sighted and i suggest you take a better look back, not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse is the exact type of massive epeen stuff i expect to see from the "New Tri" now.


He has a point about NC participation levels.

When you look at the sheer numbers in the NC, one thing I've found suprising (and it happened in the INSRG conflict) is that we would often match your cap fleets (with TRI we completely outclassed you).

Clearly, it's not that you don't have the hardware, its just that there is a much greater proportion of selfish carebears in NC alliances than in TRI or in INRSG (RIP).

The average TRI member, and in the past the average INSRG member, is/was far more keen to get their expensive hardware on the field than the average NC member. Which is why TRI alone could kick any NC alliance to the kerb, not just Hydra. I'm sure they will prove that in time.

I think it is about a lack of confidence in your own abilities - this also explains the blob mentality. You find any entity which doesnt conform to your cowardly modus operandi threatening. And rightly so. Because generally such entites are much, much better than any individual NC alliance at la pew pew.

But you're great at fuelling POS etc. Someone's gotta do it ;)


Some view combat as an obligation to be minimised or avoided. Others and an opportunity to be seized.

*shrug*

LoveKebab
Caldari
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
Posted - 2008.08.14 16:02:00 - [277]
 

Originally by: Dark Angelete

No.I think both Deva and Lovekaplex both got enough of taste , of both RzR and CEI.Think it speaks for itself. Both pilots are knowledgeable(albeit suicide monkies)of game mechanics and in RzR there is only room for one of those guys.amairite?!?


i think im banned from rejoining RZR anymore :( aparently last time they kicked me (which i didnt know about) so meh...

Darknesss
Gallente
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2008.08.14 16:37:00 - [278]
 

Originally by: Veldya
Originally by: Wesley Baird

Omeega my dear friend, you don't really believe being able to form the bigger blob is really a great accomplishment do you? I think the "coalitions" ultimate failure has shown that with enough hardware even a giant blob isn't enough to "win".


Unfortunately, the game requires blobs to dislodge well defended systems. NC didn't design the EVE mechanics. I am sure they would love to send in 10 people to take out an undefended system. I guess you have never tried to take out a cyno jammer with 200-300 defenders. What do you think they are going to take it out with, harsh language?

Quote:

While Tri may spew alot of stuff on the forums, in game we have generally stood without a massive blob backing us up. Even now, we fight against an alliance 3X our size, with many of its friends helping in many of the engagements we have had.


That is a load of tripe. It is well known that Tri had a non-aggression agreement with the NC in that neither side went after eachother's assets but could shoot eachother's ships, it was as carebear as you can get.

Tri finally broke that agreement when they decided to "help" Insurgency, and I use that term loosely. On the back of your support the legion of small time PvP Tri friendlies banded together, Tri was the flagship of the Trisurge conflict, everyone knew Insurgency would at best be a speed bump alone. Then at the most critical point in the conflict Tri abandoned Insurgency and the bandwagon of alliances to... attack Hydra.

The aftermath of that every alliance that went against the NC was destroyed, self-imploded, drama bombed and was routed out of space.

Quote:

You may think that having "great friends", ie, being able to put together a fleet of 600 is something to feel good about...I think its a fairly lame...



Yeah, I am sure Insurgency and the half dozen odd alliances that went to war against the NC because of your support of Insurgency feel great about the quality of Tri's loyalty.

NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die.

Anyone can destroy something, it doesn't take anything special, creating something and keeping it going when everyone tries to rip it down, that takes character. Hitting Hydra, again, when the NC have the GBC fighting on the front probably highlights the difference between the NC as an entity and Tri as an entity. They are just poles apart.

I honestly hope Tri are a BoB pet because that is a damn site better than just hitting Hydra again just because you perceive them to be a soft target when they are pre-occupied in a more meaningful conflict.


1. we hit Pure

2. we didnt abandon insurgency, TRI and INSRG leaders agreed it was only going badly being trapped in a dead end constelation (logistics and such was a motherf*cker, ontop of being outnumbered constantly).

3. TRI like the NC... wtf plz explain.

4. our allies went to war with us out of their own choice, infact our allies were involved in the war before TRI was, plus they knew that without TRI they wouldn't have their space for long anyway.

5. Insurgency had been at war with NC for about 2-3 weeks before we got involved.

6. We didnt break ANY agreement, we gave the NC 1 week notice that our NIP with them would end as per our original agreement.

In closing please stop posting, i've just shredded your entire clueless post apart, the fact you didnt even know who we attacked or that insurgency were at war before we got involved just says it all, idiot.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.14 17:17:00 - [279]
 

Originally by: Darknesss




1. we hit Pure

2. we didnt abandon insurgency, TRI and INSRG leaders agreed it was only going badly being trapped in a dead end constelation (logistics and such was a motherf*cker, ontop of being outnumbered constantly).

3. TRI like the NC... wtf plz explain.

4. our allies went to war with us out of their own choice, infact our allies were involved in the war before TRI was, plus they knew that without TRI they wouldn't have their space for long anyway.

5. Insurgency had been at war with NC for about 2-3 weeks before we got involved.

6. We didnt break ANY agreement, we gave the NC 1 week notice that our NIP with them would end as per our original agreement.

In closing please stop posting, i've just shredded your entire clueless post apart, the fact you didnt even know who we attacked or that insurgency were at war before we got involved just says it all, idiot.


Speaking as someone who was the humblest grunt in INSRG, this was how we saw it:

(1) WE GOT FIGHT! hahah we're taking on the whole NC, this is gonna be awesome.`

(2) Hahah holy **** wtf 4 stations, how did that happen? Cool, What the hell, let's see if we can get more, why not?

(3) ZOMG NC won't attack unless they have at least double our numbers wtf?

(4) Jeez, there really are a hell of a lot of them...

(5)...awesome, Tri are joining in. We ♥ Tri's style!

(6) Oh hey we nearly won, we had them on the back foot for a while there. Amazing fights, and fck it, we lit a fire under their tale.

(7) Welp, time to go shoot someone else!

I had no expectation of Tri help, I was glad when they joined and I got to see a fleet of cap ships that did, in fact, blot out the sun. Being the cyno for 165+ cap ships was one of the greatest spectacles of my EvE career. We were sad when tri left, but everyone understood it was because they were pre-occupied with their own problems. I never detected any resentment of Tri.

Helen
Amarr
ReviveX Fleet
White Noise.
Posted - 2008.08.14 18:06:00 - [280]
 

Originally by: Centauris

not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse


its true ask me because I had Helen in Mpire at the time while my alts were in TRI.
So we do know what we're talking about while you clearly don't.

Aya Otosaki
Amarr
Assero Argentum
Posted - 2008.08.14 18:08:00 - [281]
 

Originally by: Helen
Originally by: Centauris

not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse


its true ask me because I had Helen in Mpire at the time while my alts were in TRI.
So we do know what we're talking about while you clearly don't.



I believe you.

Coren Skyus
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.14 18:33:00 - [282]
 

Originally by: SATAN
Please come visit Triumvirates new ePeen in TVN.

A thank you must go out to:

Hydra for building it
Hydra, Pure, ME, Morsus Mihi, and the rest of the NC for coming to try and protect it.

We look forward to taking the rest of your space, and leasing it back to you under very ridiculous terms.

Please contact Super Twinky for details on how to Sort your life out, while he R*pes your face.

Well done TRI et. Al. You guys brought it and brought it hard. Congrats. Angry spinning blades or some ****.

My one suggestion, try to announce it with a bit more class next time mmmkay?

Oh by the way, we did "contact" Twinkey last night in ZAOL about those details... however he was unkind in response by jumping in 15 of his Alts from next door BUT! did gave us a discount on the mini-blob package. Rolling Eyes

o7

Lois Bishop
Caldari
Dashavatara
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2008.08.14 20:31:00 - [283]
 

Originally by: Kalissa
It is also true to say that there are no carebears in Triumvirate now, only PVP'ers who are reluctantly dragged screaming and wailing and forced into putting the odd pos up or two.


so not true. we got tonkin.

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.14 20:49:00 - [284]
 

Originally by: Kalissa
It is also true to say that there are no carebears in Triumvirate now, only PVP'ers who are reluctantly dragged screaming and wailing and forced into putting the odd pos up or two.


I want to do POS stuff, but no one appreciates my comedy POS designs...


touchvill
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.14 21:12:00 - [285]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Kalissa
It is also true to say that there are no carebears in Triumvirate now, only PVP'ers who are reluctantly dragged screaming and wailing and forced into putting the odd pos up or two.


I want to do POS stuff, but no one appreciates my comedy POS designs...




You can't fit stabs on pos ffs!

gamarus
Caldari
Ridiculously Proposed Guildname
Posted - 2008.08.14 21:21:00 - [286]
 

Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Kalissa
It is also true to say that there are no carebears in Triumvirate now, only PVP'ers who are reluctantly dragged screaming and wailing and forced into putting the odd pos up or two.


I want to do POS stuff, but no one appreciates my comedy POS designs...




You can't fit stabs on pos ffs!


Well, Fix unlocked the nanopos years ago soo... cloaking towers why not?

Faekurias
Caldari
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.08.14 22:27:00 - [287]
 

Helen has the best sig.

Negra Neve
Amarr
Neve Negra
Posted - 2008.08.14 22:45:00 - [288]
 

Edited by: Negra Neve on 14/08/2008 22:47:19
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Centauris
We Blob, We are the North, its on CAOD. Ofc its true mate Razz Why do ppl always point out the obvious to me, its all in my posts, i did write them :)


Well actually its true because that is what the NC does and from my experience has always done.

It is the way you choose to play the game, and if that is fun for your members then all power to you. Personally Im not a big fan of being part of a 600+ man fleet, hence me being in a corp of less than 15 people.

To me the blob is something negative, to others that is not the case. You can have some great fun large fleet fights without system killing lag if you leave the blob at home. We have had a few fun fights with PURE fleets over the last few days, and they weren't fun because of the results, they were fun because it was 70 or so on each side actually being able to do something other than press and button and wait 15 minutes for something to happen.

Are you having fun sitting in VFK right now? Waiting hours and hours to do something, and when you do, many people don't even load Crying or Very sad I guess its all about wanting or expecting different things from this game.



One wonders why the hell you stayed with triumvirate all that time your alliance held space. Rolling Eyes

I assume if tri starts holding 0.0 again you'll quit? Because owning stations means blobing, POS warfare and yes.. sometimes sitting @ a station camping a gate for a month.

Everyone loves a lag free fight. But like the other guy wrote. The NC didin't make the gamerules and we DO hold space, remeber? It used to belong to you.

Ackaroth
Gallente
Plundering Penguins
Anarchy.
Posted - 2008.08.14 23:29:00 - [289]
 

Originally by: Negra Neve
The NC didin't make the gamerules and we DO hold space, remeber? It used to belong to you.


Pure alt, on my CAOD?!? 250m... ousted!

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.15 00:43:00 - [290]
 

Edited by: Wesley Baird on 15/08/2008 00:44:55
Originally by: Negra Neve
One wonders why the hell you stayed with triumvirate all that time your alliance held space. Rolling Eyes

I assume if tri starts holding 0.0 again you'll quit? Because owning stations means blobing, POS warfare and yes.. sometimes sitting @ a station camping a gate for a month.

Everyone loves a lag free fight. But like the other guy wrote. The NC didin't make the gamerules and we DO hold space, remeber? It used to belong to you.


Shows how little you know...what is the biggest Tri gang you have ever seen??? Let me tell you it is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds less than 600...(and i do mean ever)

But go on and talk outta your butt about the massive gangs we put together with 500 characters in our alliance (say 200 or so people...)

Oh ya, and just for the record...do you think being part of Burn Eden I mind for one second sitting on a gate for a month?! Shocked Seriously...mine less, pvp more...

Aya
Gallente
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.15 01:02:00 - [291]
 

Edited by: Aya on 15/08/2008 01:03:25
Edited by: Aya on 15/08/2008 01:02:39
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Edited by: Wesley Baird on 15/08/2008 00:44:55
Originally by: Negra Neve
One wonders why the hell you stayed with triumvirate all that time your alliance held space. Rolling Eyes

I assume if tri starts holding 0.0 again you'll quit? Because owning stations means blobing, POS warfare and yes.. sometimes sitting @ a station camping a gate for a month.

Everyone loves a lag free fight. But like the other guy wrote. The NC didin't make the gamerules and we DO hold space, remeber? It used to belong to you.


Shows how little you know...what is the biggest Tri gang you have ever seen??? Let me tell you it is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds less than 600...(and i do mean ever)

But go on and talk outta your butt about the massive gangs we put together with 500 characters in our alliance (say 200 or so people...)

Oh ya, and just for the record...do you think being part of Burn Eden I mind for one second sitting on a gate for a month?! Shocked Seriously...mine less, pvp more...


Biggest TRI gang I ever saw was when RK attack plans were leaked to Tri leadership. Tri fit 350 people into VFK (included about 100 ATF and 50 or so other randoms). That gang was large enough to scare Smashkill into attacking a system of no importance and lose about 20 caps in the first day they tried to do it.

Average Tri gang is about 100, and willing to fight about 200 people with it

Ex0dus
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.15 05:25:00 - [292]
 

Originally by: Helen
Originally by: Centauris

not to mention stating that on Mpire merely seeing you guys, your numbers etc was the start of their collapse


its true ask me because I had Helen in Mpire at the time while my alts were in TRI.
So we do know what we're talking about while you clearly don't.


confirming this is lies, Helen has no alts.

Prof Patpending
Amarr
Bodgit and Scarper Industrial
Posted - 2008.08.15 06:35:00 - [293]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird


I want to do POS stuff, but no one appreciates my comedy POS designs...




Reminds me of an R0adkill pos where the mods were placed to represent a dong. That got a quick laugh.

NightWolfe
Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.17 22:08:00 - [294]
 

Good to see the old TRI spirit risen again, missed it :) Lo to all me old buddies and keep it up, to all those whiners on this thread, boo hoo, to all the chest beaters, suck it up and behave, I am sure you are ALL wise enough to read between the lines, shovel out the sh*t from the mud and form your own opinions.

Lets take it for what it is, a station taken, battles fought, more to come and FUN TO BE HAD!!

Good luck to ALL sides involved, and have FUN!

Now, all that said, who the F stole my VODDY!! WARGOAT!! Give it back NOW!


Zaethiel
Minmatar
Infinity Research
Posted - 2008.08.17 23:16:00 - [295]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird


I want to do POS stuff, but no one appreciates my comedy POS designs...




*Cough* Carebear *Cough*

Loike
Caldari
The Alpha and the Omega
Posted - 2008.08.17 23:18:00 - [296]
 

Originally by: NightWolfe
Good to see the old TRI spirit risen again, missed it :) Lo to all me old buddies and keep it up, to all those whiners on this thread, boo hoo, to all the chest beaters, suck it up and behave, I am sure you are ALL wise enough to read between the lines, shovel out the sh*t from the mud and form your own opinions.

Lets take it for what it is, a station taken, battles fought, more to come and FUN TO BE HAD!!

Good luck to ALL sides involved, and have FUN!

Now, all that said, who the F stole my VODDY!! WARGOAT!! Give it back NOW!




Hey night! <3

-xBlood.

Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Posted - 2008.08.20 10:03:00 - [297]
 

gf last night, since i dont see a post about it :)

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.08.20 10:18:00 - [298]
 

Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/08/2008 10:23:27
Originally by: Splagada
gf last night, since i dont see a post about it :)


there was a tpoic, but it got locked

didnt you guys just blob em to hell?

see how you manage with that following the recall to VFK :)

edit: although pure arent going to VFK, and are now fully committed to fighting tri apparently... of course you know this already, I'm just doing my best to entertain the great CAOD unwashed Very Happy

DTee
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.08.20 11:13:00 - [299]
 

They did manage to blob us to hell.

The funny thing is I wouldn't have let a fly move with the fleet size they had. I haven't been around in Tri long but I have to say our FC handed them their behind.I am not sure whether they were THAT bad or we were THAT good.


Good fight gentlemen.

Loike
Caldari
The Alpha and the Omega
Posted - 2008.08.20 11:55:00 - [300]
 

Originally by: DTee
They did manage to blob us to hell.

The funny thing is I wouldn't have let a fly move with the fleet size they had. I haven't been around in Tri long but I have to say our FC handed them their behind.I am not sure whether they were THAT bad or we were THAT good.


Good fight gentlemen.


Strategically they won, they achieved their objectives and we didn't kill as much as we hoped to Smile

The next couple of days will be interesting, and I hope that Pure don't bring all their friends along again, as Pure alone outnumber us by a significant margin.

Some number candy:
Pure fleet at it's height: 250 support + 60 odd caps.
MM fleet: 150? (someone can correct me on this) including 2 titans, 6 motherships and 30 other capitals.

Our fleet: 150 at most.

Here's to more o7


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