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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.08.07 14:55:00 - [31]
 

Supported 100%.

I would further ask that all Mission Deadspaces be locked from anyone but the Mission Runner, and they would not be scannable by any probes, and anyone salvaging from wrecks that are not created by them would get CONCORDOKKENED.

Twisted Evil

GeneRuss
Minmatar
Ars ex Discordia
Posted - 2008.08.07 21:50:00 - [32]
 

I was 10 seconds away from posting the exact same OP.

Coddity
SniggWaffe

Posted - 2008.08.07 22:07:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd
Originally by: Aleus Stygian
This is not WoW.


not yet!




I support the OP's idea to just get it over with.

Volir
Space Bushido

Posted - 2008.08.07 22:57:00 - [34]
 

I support this as a short term milestone in a long term project. I think we should be able to play an instanced eve. That way we can setup duling games, conquest games, racing games, and others. It would be great to earn isk in our private instances and then compete in the other instances we enjoy. Trading could be down in a shopping instance where there is a worldwide market or maybe through a Jita channel. This would solve all the problems of griefers, exploiters, and large bully alliances controlling all of 0.0 . CCP could then get really creative with new instance designs, like Eve universes that had different rules or extended epic missions.

Nekopyat
Posted - 2008.08.08 01:21:00 - [35]
 

You know, when I think about it.. sure the post is a parody/troll/whatever and the concentual PvP thing is kinda silly given EvE, I could actually see a dueling system to have some value.

For comparison I am thinking of the autoduel universe. A game with a pretty harsh backstore.. some protected areas, lots of lawless regions controlled by gangs/corperations/mini-states/etc.

One thing the universe had though was both a dualing circuit (vehicles going in had cost limitations and cash prize going out) and, more relavent to this, a 'limited corperate war' system where sure corperations would go fully toe to toe in lawless areas, but there was also a system in place that they could utitilize a regulated limited war framework enforced by the strong police areas. You set parameters (number and value of units), victory conditions, and what was at stake (switch control of a territory, resource transfer, etc etc).

Right now it's just sorta 'war or no war', at least from a game mechanic perspective.

Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
Posted - 2008.08.08 01:46:00 - [36]
 

Nope. Silly Goon, EVE is for big kids. Very Happy

Another attempt by Goons to subvert the nature of EVE, he knows it is an asinine idea, but he would push it, just to see what happens.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.08.08 02:55:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Nekopyat
You know, when I think about it.. sure the post is a parody/troll/whatever and the concentual PvP thing is kinda silly given EvE, I could actually see a dueling system to have some value.

For comparison I am thinking of the autoduel universe. A game with a pretty harsh backstore.. some protected areas, lots of lawless regions controlled by gangs/corperations/mini-states/etc.

One thing the universe had though was both a dualing circuit (vehicles going in had cost limitations and cash prize going out) and, more relavent to this, a 'limited corperate war' system where sure corperations would go fully toe to toe in lawless areas, but there was also a system in place that they could utitilize a regulated limited war framework enforced by the strong police areas. You set parameters (number and value of units), victory conditions, and what was at stake (switch control of a territory, resource transfer, etc etc).

Right now it's just sorta 'war or no war', at least from a game mechanic perspective.


We have a dueling system. You want to fight consentual PvP with a non-corpie(or NPC corpie) in highsec, drop a can with one unit of something worthless in it - ammo, a spare trit you keep on hand for the purpose, whatever. Steal it, thief drops it, you steal it back, and you both have 15 minute timers on each other. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. Failing that, fire up Singularity(especially if you like the OP's crazy "No ship death" bit).

Mu Yaling
Damage Unlimited Inc
Posted - 2008.08.08 03:40:00 - [38]
 

may as well get it over with

devs dont have the balls to admit it.. but yeahs thats whats going on NeutralYARRRR!!

Nekopyat
Posted - 2008.08.08 03:49:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto

We have a dueling system. You want to fight consentual PvP with a non-corpie(or NPC corpie) in highsec, drop a can with one unit of something worthless in it - ammo, a spare trit you keep on hand for the purpose, whatever. Steal it, thief drops it, you steal it back, and you both have 15 minute timers on each other. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. Failing that, fire up Singularity(especially if you like the OP's crazy "No ship death" bit).


*nod* quite true, players have found a way to do it.

And I'm not saying a contract-like system would be worth the development effort, I am just saying I could see some value to it.

Penchance
Posted - 2008.08.08 08:17:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
[We have a dueling system. You want to fight consentual PvP with a non-corpie(or NPC corpie) in highsec, drop a can with one unit of something worthless in it - ammo, a spare trit you keep on hand for the purpose, whatever. Steal it, thief drops it, you steal it back, and you both have 15 minute timers on each other. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. Failing that, fire up Singularity(especially if you like the OP's crazy "No ship death" bit).

Certainly that is a solution, but it isn't terribly elegant. A formal dueling system would be nice but it's definitely not a priority.

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.08.08 10:38:00 - [41]
 

I support this idea.

Most of the hate and frustration we see on the forums daily is because people are confused over what the hell this game is.

Clear delineations like the OP proposes would stop all this subterfuge and sneky **** CCP are drip drip driping in - and eveyone would know where they stand

SKUNK

Boohoomoar
Posted - 2008.08.08 10:59:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Boohoomoar on 08/08/2008 11:00:46
20 Goons managed to create such a **** storm by suiciding Hulks for a few months that the forums were awash with complaints and we got a nerf to suicide ganking.

Goons have the power to change Eve.

Supporting this.

I SoStoned
Caldari
Posted - 2008.08.08 12:02:00 - [43]
 

AHhh ha ha ha ROFL!

I just read the title... *giggle*

NOT.

Calvin Pax
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2008.08.08 12:29:00 - [44]
 

Yes finally a good idea !

But just one more change maybee.. Canīt we also have the opertunity to press the non-PvP button DURING a fight ??

For exampel I say yes to a PvP fight but during this I see that my ship starts taking hits and Iīm down to structure. So I can now press the No-I-Donīt-want-to PvP- button and see Concord kill my opponentin and save my ship !!

Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
Posted - 2008.08.08 15:03:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Calvin Pax
Yes finally a good idea !

But just one more change maybee.. Canīt we also have the opertunity to press the non-PvP button DURING a fight ??

For exampel I say yes to a PvP fight but during this I see that my ship starts taking hits and Iīm down to structure. So I can now press the No-I-Donīt-want-to PvP- button and see Concord kill my opponentin and save my ship !!


Too complicated. A better idea would be to automatically stop all fights when you reach 1% stucture. You are then teleported back to the closest station with your damaged ship and can either rep the ship at the station spending a bit of isk, or you can fly in your pod to the place where you lost the fight and pick up your ship there. In that case, the ship you pick up would be whole again, with no need for repairs.

I think this would bring more people into PvP.

Nekopyat
Posted - 2008.08.08 15:12:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette

Too complicated. A better idea would be to automatically stop all fights when you reach 1% stucture. You are then teleported back to the closest station with your damaged ship and can either rep the ship at the station spending a bit of isk, or you can fly in your pod to the place where you lost the fight and pick up your ship there. In that case, the ship you pick up would be whole again, with no need for repairs.

I think this would bring more people into PvP.



You know, if the ship could be stolen in it's 1% state while the looser is podding around, I would actually be in favor of this ^_^

I've always thought EvE could use a real salvage system where you could obtain heavily damaged but otherwise intact prize ships.

Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
Posted - 2008.08.08 15:48:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Nekopyat

You know, if the ship could be stolen in it's 1% state while the looser is podding around, I would actually be in favor of this ^_^

I've always thought EvE could use a real salvage system where you could obtain heavily damaged but otherwise intact prize ships.


No. It shouldn't be allowed to be stolen. CONCORD should protect the ship and blow anyone approaching it up.

Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2008.08.08 16:39:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Traidor Disloyal on 08/08/2008 16:39:27
Originally by: Toman Jerich
This is pretty simple change. Everyone in high-sec space should be un-attackable by default, UNLESS they intentionally flag themselves for PVP.

High-Sec also needs a dueling mode so that you can fight your friends without flagging for general PVP.

I stopped reading right here. I don't care what the rest of your post says. I stopped playing WoW a long time ago and do not wish to play WoW In Space.

Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.08.08 16:42:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Traidor Disloyal
I stopped reading right here. I don't care what the rest of your post says. I stopped playing WoW a long time ago and do not wish to play WoW In Space.


Then you missed the obvious hilarity that a sarcastic troll post can ensue. Check my post at the top of this page.

Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2008.08.08 16:47:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Originally by: Traidor Disloyal
I stopped reading right here. I don't care what the rest of your post says. I stopped playing WoW a long time ago and do not wish to play WoW In Space.


Then you missed the obvious hilarity that a sarcastic troll post can ensue. Check my post at the top of this page.


You misunderstand. This may be a joke post but it still ****es me off when anyone even talks about this pvp flagging in high sec. Why? Because some moron on the CSM panel will run with it because they will think it is a real good idea.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.08.08 16:59:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Traidor Disloyal
Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Originally by: Traidor Disloyal
I stopped reading right here. I don't care what the rest of your post says. I stopped playing WoW a long time ago and do not wish to play WoW In Space.


Then you missed the obvious hilarity that a sarcastic troll post can ensue. Check my post at the top of this page.


You misunderstand. This may be a joke post but it still ****es me off when anyone even talks about this pvp flagging in high sec. Why? Because some moron on the CSM panel will run with it because they will think it is a real good idea.


I don't think the CSM has brought forward a parody thread yet. Even Ank, epic carebear that she is, hasn't yet posted in favour of this thread, and I don't expect that she will. Give them at least a tiny amount of credit.

Nekopyat
Posted - 2008.08.08 19:55:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette

No. It shouldn't be allowed to be stolen. CONCORD should protect the ship and blow anyone approaching it up.



At which point during the next x.1 nerf patch CCP repurposes the snowball launchers into CONCORD repellant.

Ged Gollas
Posted - 2008.08.08 19:57:00 - [53]
 

Not supported. In real life, you could be walking down the street in the middle of the day, downtown New York and someone can still shoot you dead and probably get away with it - and you didn't opt-in! Empire space is no different.

Jastra
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.08 20:04:00 - [54]
 

where is the "I do not support this idea" radio button ?

Foulque
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2008.08.08 20:13:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Jastra
where is the "I do not support this idea" radio button ?

Val Sharen
Caldari
Freewind Ventures
Posted - 2008.08.10 23:34:00 - [56]
 

No.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2008.08.11 01:06:00 - [57]
 

w00t just what I always wanted!!!!!

if you want to play eve in a "cold and dark universe" go to 0.0 with the other greifers!!!!

Flaming Lemming
Caldari
Puppeteer Press
Posted - 2008.08.11 03:11:00 - [58]
 

Can't decide if this is pure sarcasm, or a poorly veiled whine. Either way, entertaining thread, dumbass idea.

Havohej
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
Posted - 2008.08.11 04:58:00 - [59]
 

There are people taking this seriously, and posting real agreement.

Rolling Eyes

Devian 666
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2008.08.11 05:01:00 - [60]
 

Just change deadspace gear to a purple colour and add a customisable game interface then the conversion is complete.


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