Posted - 2008.08.02 12:31:00 - [32]

 

But but...it's fun!

Posted - 2008.08.02 13:26:00 - [34]

 

I'm going to try to keep my responses brief.

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Do the evil pirates (people who kill for no reason, or who kill to loot and steal) totally outnumber the righteous protectors in this game? (People who only kill bad people, and usually not for the profit / loot)

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There are no good or bad people. What you're talking about is simply the outcome of being viewed by another person's viewpoint. For instance, if you mine a veldspar asteroid, that's one less veldspar asteroid that I can mine for myself. Therefore, in my view, you have in a sense pirated from me. If you put it on the market and make a profit from it by undercutting me, then you've again taken profit that would have been mine. The so called bad-guys are simply guys, struggling for power, just like George Washington did when he lead the fledgling colonial forces against the red coats.

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What does this say about people in society? That without the constraints of society they do not see the need for a society's general rules against destruction?

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It says that human beings cannot appreciate order without a degree of chaos to judge it by, and that you have never set foot into 0.0. There are many very healthy societies functioning in 0.0 without the artificial constraints that CONCORD provides. They generally set up their own sets of rules, that often times mirror that of the larger Empire society. However, each of these 0.0 mini-societies, and modern day RL societies are only in existence because they have banded together and destroyed many other societies.

Also, one could well argue that the pirates are the ones truly alive and enjoying life, and that the carebears are walking zombies. Sometimes you can't appreciate being alive unless you've stared death in the face.

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Part of what makes us human is our societies and our order. For as long as there's been soldiers there's been civilians, and the best societies are ones where all the people in it are protected by righteous people.

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1) You're implying that being human is some sort of greatly unique accomplishment. It's not. People do it every day. Idiots do it. Lots and lots of idiots. People are nothing more than big-brained animals.

2) Animals have societies as well. Chimps have a structured hierarchy, a pecking order of dominance among males and females which is respected by the lower castes. Whales have societies, as well as dolphins, lions, wolves, buffalo and pretty much any sort of social animal. Being social is not a trait unique among humans, nor is having a structured society.

3) The "righteous" people aren't defending their society from "bad" people. They're only seen as righteous within their society, and they're simply killing the enemies of their society, much like the Romans did to well... pretty much everyone. Do you think the barbarian army at the beginning of Gladiator were "evil"? Do you think the Romans were? Those who seek to harm the social group are seen as the enemy from within the social group, while the enemy sees the social group as the evil ones. They're both simply varying viewpoints.

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Not to say that you're "required" to be ethical when playing EVE, but why are so few people ethical when the offical rules say you're allowed to not be? Are you all such blind slaves that you... cannot see the society underneath that can form?

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Pot, meet kettle. Pirates are a necessary part of the society. You don't seem to see that. Lawbreakers are a necessary part of any society. Villains are necessary. People NEED those types of people to point the finger at and say "that guy's bad. I'm glad I'm better than him!" Without an occasional dose of chaos, one cannot appreciate the order that one strives to achieve.

EVE is a wonderfully open sandbox where you only have what you're able to keep from others and I like it that way.

Perhaps next time you get ganked, you'll take responsibility for your actions and realize that it is your own fault for allowing it.

Posted - 2008.08.02 15:43:00 - [36]

 

are you sure your not the same/ friends with the same kid who gave these reviews of some other games?


lmao everyone should read that site, if you havent seen it already

and just for the record, im not against christianity, in fact i am catholic/christian, but this site just takes video games WAY to far

Posted - 2008.08.02 15:51:00 - [38]

 

Edited by: Karentaki on 02/08/2008 16:04:31
... LOL

Because I'm a pirate in EVE, I must therefore be a pirate in real life... Yes, I do happen to own a boat and sail around stealing treasure and saying "Yarr" a lot. I also have a pet parrot.


Also, lol at "these people are the great leaders who can form great societies (like Jesus and George Washington)".

I don't remember much from the bible, but from what I do remember, Jesus is supposedly an alter-ego of one of the greatest creaters of pain and suffering ever. A few examples:

• God drowned about 99% of all complex land organisms on Earth


• God destroyed entire cities simply because some inhbitants disobeyed him


• God condemns people to eternal suffering for not following his rules

To be honest that doesn't seem to be a very good role model...

[disclaimer] None of the above material is in any way meant to be offensive. [/disclaimer]

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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258

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are you sure your not the same/ friends with the same kid who gave these reviews of some other games?

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O.M.F.G...

Posted - 2008.08.02 15:57:00 - [40]

 

Originally by: soldieroffortune 258

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are you sure your not the same/ friends with the same kid who gave these reviews of some other games?


lmao everyone should read that site, if you havent seen it already

and just for the record, im not against christianity, in fact i am catholic/christian, but this site just takes video games WAY to far

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ZOMG!

Is that thing, like, for real? It's a joke, right?


Right?

Posted - 2008.08.02 16:17:00 - [42]

 

That site is priceless.

"Dance Praise is like the Secular game 'Dance Dance Revolution' only with wholesome Christian songs and no Communist overtones."

Posted - 2008.08.02 17:50:00 - [44]

 

Evil will always triumph... because Good is dumb.

Posted - 2008.08.02 18:45:00 - [46]

 

Originally by: soldieroffortune 258

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these reviews

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I very very rarely post, I prefer to read and lol, but FFS, that site, I truly don't know whether to laugh or be very afraid

Posted - 2008.08.02 19:48:00 - [48]

 

Originally by: Xap Starfire

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Do the evil pirates (people who kill for no reason, or who kill to loot and steal) totally outnumber the righteous protectors in this game? (People who only kill bad people, and usually not for the profit / loot)

What does this say about people in society? That without the constraints of society they do not see the need for a society's general rules against destruction? That they, deep down, are nothing more than primitive animals that eat each other for food and spend all their time fighting and none of it doing productive, long term successful things?

Part of what makes us human is our societies and our order. For as long as there's been soldiers there's been civilians, and the best societies are ones where all the people in it are protected by righteous people.

Perhaps most people are animalistic, and some people are not - these people are the great leaders who can form great societies (like Jesus and George Washington) who fight against the evils of destruction...especially random and wanton destruction that results in heavy losses and few gains...

Not to say that you're "required" to be ethical when playing EVE, but why are so few people ethical when the offical rules say you're allowed to not be? Are you all such blind slaves that you only follow the offical rules, and cannot see the society underneath that can form?

Anyways, perhaps next time you want to "Gank" someone, you should consider how much harder it is to fight those who cause misery, rather than being one of the evil thugs that causes it.

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So many questions and so many answers to them. I will tell answer them but you have to do one thing first.

Give me a satisfying answer to this, "Whats the point of life?"

Now go in the corner and remember this is a game. Blowing stuff is fun.

Posted - 2008.08.02 20:22:00 - [50]

 

Originally by: Sakura Nihil

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Originally by: Drongen

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Blowing stuff is fun.

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Kinky .

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In before the edit.

Posted - 2008.08.02 20:36:00 - [52]

 

Edited by: Avan Sercedos on 02/08/2008 20:36:46

Originally by: Hugoi

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Second guy in before the edit...

oh wai...

p.s. good eye for hidden stuff Sakura

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No, no, that statement was accurate.

Edit:
Pyramid Quote: Destroyed

Posted - 2008.08.02 20:40:00 - [54]

 

Originally by: Sakura Nihil

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Kinky .

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SAKURA! What happened? It's been like, a week and you haven't called me yet. After all the things I did for you too...

Posted - 2008.08.02 22:39:00 - [56]

 

Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 02/08/2008 22:42:31
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 02/08/2008 22:41:22

Originally by: soldieroffortune 258

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are you sure your not the same/ friends with the same kid who gave these reviews of some other games?


lmao everyone should read that site, if you havent seen it already

and just for the record, im not against christianity, in fact i am catholic/christian, but this site just takes video games WAY to far

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Owwwwww my brain.

Organized religion has probably killed off more of this planet's population than everything outside of natural causes.

This tidbit of history brought to you by the Auto-de-Fe and similar "my religion is better than your religion cuz I say so" types throughout recorded history.

My "crimes" in EvE pale by comparison .

**EDIT**For the discerning reading pirate might I dare recommend Dan Simmon's "Hyperion" series....especially books 3-4. Don't worry...it's hard sci-fi...not a trap .

Posted - 2008.08.02 23:43:00 - [58]

 

trlol!!!!!

Posted - 2008.08.03 03:22:00 - [60]

 

Originally by: kublai

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Yesterday I saw two children playing "battleships", one of them was winning, and with glee he exlaimed "I sunk your battleship!" his eyes were completely devoid of sympathy for the thousands of souls onboard that little battleship, what has our world become, he could not be more than nine and his mother didn't even TRY to correct this behaviour, society is going down the drain.

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This, a million times this.