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Shatza
Gallente
Fatalix Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.28 22:02:00 - [1]
 

from what i have heard, taranis seems to pwn ares hands down, while i do belive this with the taranis's 3 high slots or 4, i wants some comments on some good ares setups against taranis

im pretty sure there are some good ares pilots out there, and with the next patch its seems as if its gonna be more useless except for scouting..

ne one with good set-ups for ares vs a taranis??

Sink Azure
Posted - 2004.05.28 22:11:00 - [2]
 

I just think Taranis is better... with 4 high slots 3 med slots and 3 lo slots i think... Ares has 3 high slots i think and 2 med 4 lo.... while the taranis can use 3 blaster the ares can only use 2... and missiles are of no use against ceptors...and taranis is stronger so it can take more dmg then ares..and taranis can use drones

Shatza
Gallente
Fatalix Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.28 22:16:00 - [3]
 

yes, i am aware of that , perhaps im asking the wrong question, what im trying to say is, is there ne possible set-ups against a taranis with a ares, if the ares suck so much for pvp, is it only used for scouting?

surely there has to be a way.. with the right set-up, otherwise, this thread i just made is kinda useless Sad

Shatza
Gallente
Fatalix Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.28 22:19:00 - [4]
 

ne one else??

ne setup-s would be good thx....

Shatza
Gallente
Fatalix Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.29 00:16:00 - [5]
 

no one likes me :( *cries*

Van Halen
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2004.05.29 02:35:00 - [6]
 

um i dont really think theres anythin u could do.taranis can pretty much outpower and ares easily, more slots better defense and weapon schematics, sorry but ares is just outclassed when it comes to pvp.

Shatza
Gallente
Fatalix Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.29 04:34:00 - [7]
 

thx, for the info...

kinda wish it wasnt so outclass, y would they make such a ship then, oh well

Adonia
Mercs Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.29 04:59:00 - [8]
 

I think the Ares is a great ship for NPC hunting, you can pop on your MWD, outrun any missles they throw your way, and send your own back at 'em. The 2 missle bays are the selling point, not too many gallente ships have them. Fun to play with... ;) ,But we'll have to see how much the upcomming changes will affect everything. Gear your ship for maximum speed and drop your payload as you sweep back and forth over your target within range... fun.

fras
Amarr
Posted - 2004.05.29 09:48:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: fras on 29/05/2004 09:50:44
Anything is possible, the lack of a 3rd mid slot matters much less in frig vs frig, all you need is a web. If you get them webbed 1 EM cruise will wipe out their shields, and you will have a big advantage going into a 2v's3 gun battle.

I'd try something like:

2x the best named neutrons(cheap and plentyfull), 1x standard launcher
1mn mwd, web
1x Micro aux, 1x cap relay, 1x Damage mod

Just something as simple as firing your neutrons a few seconds earlier than he fires might win u the fight.
If luck is on your side I'm sure it would be more than possible.

Van Halen
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2004.05.30 01:05:00 - [10]
 

yes an ares could beat a taranis if the ares gets a propuslion web on the taranis, then u could possibly hit it with cruise missiles, which then would make the taranis a fine floating mist in spaceTwisted Evil

Vacuole
Gallente
Knights of Shadows
Posted - 2004.05.30 01:54:00 - [11]
 

The Ares is a better ganking ship than tyranis, imho.

HIGH SLOTS: two named standard launchers with paradise cruise, named 150mm rail w/antimatter

MED SLOTS: power 2 scrambler (7.5km range), MWD

LO SLOTS: aux power core, cap power relay, intertial stabilizer, and a tracking mod of your choice.

You can easily kill any indy or lesser frig fast with the cruise. The lock time is super fast.

It can hammer most cruisers too, crippling them before they have time to flee or shoot back.

Be careful with their drones though.. they'llshred you fast.

Yes, I know the ruise missiles will be nerfed next patch.

I also use the Ares for high speed MWD'ing with dual MWD to find safespots.

Strict PvP, the Ares will prolly lose out against a Tyranis, but the difference might be so close that its more about the pilot skill than anything else.


Shatza
Gallente
Fatalix Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.30 02:44:00 - [12]
 

thx forthe tip guys, most appreciated, of course more are welcome, im actually writing this down lol Very Happynull

Letifer Deus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.30 02:51:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Letifer Deus on 30/05/2004 02:53:18
Once cruise are gone from frigs and cruisers, Taranis rules, check sig, that's from my Taranis ^_^

Ronyo Dae'Loki
4S Corporation
Posted - 2004.05.30 03:15:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Letifer Deus
Edited by: Letifer Deus on 30/05/2004 02:53:18
Once cruise are gone from frigs and cruisers, Taranis rules, check sig, that's from my Taranis ^_^
Neutrons > Ions
See my sig.

feroci0us [AFDT] has gotten several shots from Modal Neutrons for 291.1. These were Anodes because it wasn't my main Taranis (I had just bought this one as a spare).

Xavier Cardde
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.30 05:10:00 - [15]
 

Cruise are useful on frigs.... just wait for yoru target to get in locking range and sit still.... as they try to orbit or apporach fir a few missiles and hit the MWD...

they may have turned off the MWD so that they can hit better and in chasing you they even with MWD your gonna get smacked by the missiles.

Letifer Deus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.05.30 05:13:00 - [16]
 

I've never argued that neutrons dont do more damage per shot, it just happened to be my ion that got the wrecking. But in the end neutrons only do ~6% more damage/sec, use 70% more cap/sec, and use 4 mw more power.

Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.05.30 12:37:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Vacuole
The Ares is a better ganking ship than tyranis, imho.

HIGH SLOTS: two named standard launchers with paradise cruise, named 150mm rail w/antimatter

MED SLOTS: power 2 scrambler (7.5km range), MWD

LO SLOTS: aux power core, cap power relay, intertial stabilizer, and a tracking mod of your choice.





Inertial stabiliser ?

Doesnt a nanofiber do more, and better ?

Inertial staqbiliser: 10% inertia bonus
nanofiber: 15% inertia bonus + 24m/s base speed

ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2004.05.30 14:17:00 - [18]
 

Taranis vs Ares = Taranis wins because it can web AND scramble.

If you put web in Ares, you can't scramble and he'll get away Wink

I'm waiting to see the missiles final manoueverability after the patch and then I'll decide what's best against other ships....

For now it's taranis, except against drone using ships where you're better off using ares and staying at just under 20km range to scramble.


 

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