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SuiJuris
No.Mercy
Posted - 2008.07.28 13:28:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: SuiJuris on 28/07/2008 18:25:57
Edited by: SuiJuris on 28/07/2008 13:36:28
I am unfortunately at work and cannot join in the fun just yet.

How are the proposed changes by the devs?
are Minmatar nerfed back to the stone age? Hows the Vaga doing?

If you have tested some ships/Setups on SiSi lets see some numbers.

Edited Title to more appropriately reflect content.

bluebeyond
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.28 13:37:00 - [2]
 

*Looks up...

OMG there's a thread about this already....

SuiJuris
No.Mercy
Posted - 2008.07.28 13:39:00 - [3]
 

Ya I didn't see it until after I posted :(

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2008.07.28 13:41:00 - [4]
 

I think it just came back up after being patched right now.

Kano Sekor
Amarr
Burning Steel Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.28 13:54:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: SuiJuris
Edited by: SuiJuris on 28/07/2008 13:36:28
I am unfortunately at work and cannot join in the fun just yet.
.


Since i got a job i think my posts/day has gone up by 2000% :D thankfully my studies will start again soon, much to the delight of the forum users.

SuiJuris
No.Mercy
Posted - 2008.07.28 13:58:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: SuiJuris on 28/07/2008 13:57:54
Bah only thing were getting, in Either thread, is people speculating off the dev blog.... no actual testers have posted.

This is teh lame. I want some NUMBERS!!!

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:01:00 - [7]
 

Overdrive injectors are dead. Went from 20% to 12.5% for tech 2. Nanofibers are much better. Only a little bit smaller speed bonus with a nice agility bonus alongside it.

Labienus
Gallente
Nocturnal Romance
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:11:00 - [8]
 

my nano ishtar has dropped from 3.5km/s to 2km/s. And my Navy Caracal used to go 4200m/s with t2 fit, now goes 2300m/s :P

yay! Rolling Eyes

Trojanman190
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:24:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Labienus
my nano ishtar has dropped from 3.5km/s to 2km/s. And my Navy Caracal used to go 4200m/s with t2 fit, now goes 2300m/s :P

yay! Rolling Eyes


wow

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:28:00 - [10]
 

Tech 2 speed fit Ares = 5 km/s ShockedShockedShocked Mad

Transmaniacon
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:28:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Trojanman190
Originally by: Labienus
my nano ishtar has dropped from 3.5km/s to 2km/s. And my Navy Caracal used to go 4200m/s with t2 fit, now goes 2300m/s :P

yay! Rolling Eyes


wow


"SELL ALL THE POLYCARBS NOW!"

d3vo
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:33:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Transmaniacon
Originally by: Trojanman190
Originally by: Labienus
my nano ishtar has dropped from 3.5km/s to 2km/s. And my Navy Caracal used to go 4200m/s with t2 fit, now goes 2300m/s :P

yay! Rolling Eyes


wow


"SELL ALL THE POLYCARBS NOW!"

We better get ready to sell our polycarbs and trit bars. The prices will definitely go down for both.

Anubis Hatak
No Trademark
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:43:00 - [13]
 

My crusader that used to go 7.4km/s unrigged with no implants now goes 5.3km/s... That is just..... ****.

So thats about 4.5-4.7km/s orbit speed, looks like I'm putting away the crusader Mad

SuiJuris
No.Mercy
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:49:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Anubis Hatak
My crusader that used to go 7.4km/s unrigged with no implants now goes 5.3km/s... That is just..... ****.

So thats about 4.5-4.7km/s orbit speed, looks like I'm putting away the crusader Mad


Why with the sig radius and no Hacs out there to pwn you isn't it less dangerous for your Crusader?

Pheonix Kanan
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:51:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: SuiJuris
Originally by: Anubis Hatak
My crusader that used to go 7.4km/s unrigged with no implants now goes 5.3km/s... That is just..... ****.

So thats about 4.5-4.7km/s orbit speed, looks like I'm putting away the crusader Mad


Why with the sig radius and no Hacs out there to pwn you isn't it less dangerous for your Crusader?


Seriously, everyone will be flying RR battleships as they are the only that can tank a 150 man blob.

Antodias
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:53:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Antodias on 28/07/2008 14:53:42
My no speed mods blasterranis is unaffected, and will now be a supagangstah anti-ceptor since it can catch them all now. :V

Anubis Hatak
No Trademark
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:53:00 - [17]
 

I'm pretty sure at them speeds cruiser sized turrets will hit me, missiles will hurt quite a bit and hell, any ship with a drone bay can kill me with 5 warrior IIs.

Bare in mind the crusader is the second fastest (by a small amount) interceptor to the claw, so all the other ceptors will be going even slower. My fit is 3x OD II and 1x nano II, the ones with 3 low slots will be lucky to reach near 5k/s without rigs or implants.

SuiJuris
No.Mercy
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:56:00 - [18]
 

Anubis with the changes to ODII's and Nano's maybe try 3 Nano's and see if you get a higher orbit speed but a lower max speed? Would also allow you to fit a heatsink

Denuo Secus
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:56:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Pheonix Kanan
Seriously, everyone will be flying RR battleships as they are the only that can tank a 150 man blob.


No, we'll fly a small fleet of deadly ASs which will finally get kinda role since the web nerf Twisted Evil

SuiJuris
No.Mercy
Posted - 2008.07.28 14:59:00 - [20]
 

Anyone run a test on a Vagabond yet?

Anubis Hatak
No Trademark
Posted - 2008.07.28 15:01:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: SuiJuris
Anubis with the changes to ODII's and Nano's maybe try 3 Nano's and see if you get a higher orbit speed but a lower max speed? Would also allow you to fit a heatsink


I guess I didn't consider that but either way, CCP have ****ed up ceptors.

Cruisers flying 5km/s; OK, nerf them. But making ceptors slow and easy targets is just stupid. (Though I also fly the un-speed modded taranis, so other ceptors will be easy to catch nowTwisted Evil)

Pheonix Kanan
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.07.28 15:03:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Denuo Secus

No, we'll fly a small fleet of deadly ASs which will finally get kinda role since the web nerf Twisted Evil


No, they still don't have a role, they will still melt to pieces. Just now HACs and Recons are going to melt just as easily. It's really sad to see cruisers taken out of pvp.

Bekador
Gallente
Posted - 2008.07.28 15:13:00 - [23]
 

Vaga on SiSi:

+1.590.000 mass
+0,05 AU/s warpspeed
-3 m/s speed

Sacrilege on SiSi:
+290.000 mass
+ 0,05 AU/s Warpspeed
-7 m/s speed

BiggestT
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2008.07.28 15:16:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Pheonix Kanan
Originally by: Denuo Secus

No, we'll fly a small fleet of deadly ASs which will finally get kinda role since the web nerf Twisted Evil


No, they still don't have a role, they will still melt to pieces. Just now HACs and Recons are going to melt just as easily. It's really sad to see cruisers taken out of pvp.


Oh i think id beter go burn my heavy interdictor..
oh wait..thats a good ship..

Denuo Secus
Posted - 2008.07.28 15:24:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Pheonix Kanan
Originally by: Denuo Secus

No, we'll fly a small fleet of deadly ASs which will finally get kinda role since the web nerf Twisted Evil


No, they still don't have a role, they will still melt to pieces. Just now HACs and Recons are going to melt just as easily. It's really sad to see cruisers taken out of pvp.


No, fittet with AB they benefit from speed patch. Weaker web cannot stop them to almost zero and small sig (no MWD) makes them harder to hit. Thats all theory yet...but sounds really interesting to me.

Kazuma Saruwatari
Posted - 2008.07.28 15:37:00 - [26]
 

Just a question to anyone currently having SiSi access:

Everyone swap out MWD for AB and try to fight in them. Give it a good fight, not one of those 5-second shoot-tests.

I'd do it myself if it wasnt for SiSi being a sissy and not letting me in...

Wannabehero
Wayward Ventures
Posted - 2008.07.28 15:40:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Bekador
Vaga on SiSi:

+1.590.000 mass
+0,05 AU/s warpspeed
-3 m/s speed

Sacrilege on SiSi:
+290.000 mass
+ 0,05 AU/s Warpspeed
-7 m/s speed


Please tell me you are lying...

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2008.07.28 15:53:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: SuiJuris
Originally by: Anubis Hatak
My crusader that used to go 7.4km/s unrigged with no implants now goes 5.3km/s... That is just..... ****.

So thats about 4.5-4.7km/s orbit speed, looks like I'm putting away the crusader Mad


Why with the sig radius and no Hacs out there to pwn you isn't it less dangerous for your Crusader?


The relative speed difference between interceptors and heavy assaults is still about the same.

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2008.07.28 16:02:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
Just a question to anyone currently having SiSi access:

Everyone swap out MWD for AB and try to fight in them. Give it a good fight, not one of those 5-second shoot-tests.

I'd do it myself if it wasnt for SiSi being a sissy and not letting me in...


Thing is, you need the mwd speeds. People don't use mwd to speed tank for the most part. They use them to get from one point to the other faster, or to dictate range. That hasn't changed. You will still need mwd on most pvp ships.

Feinrig
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2008.07.28 16:10:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Wannabehero
Originally by: Bekador
Vaga on SiSi:

+1.590.000 mass
+0,05 AU/s warpspeed
-3 m/s speed

Sacrilege on SiSi:
+290.000 mass
+ 0,05 AU/s Warpspeed
-7 m/s speed


Please tell me you are lying...


It's the truth, I've just checked.


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