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Red Thunder
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2008.08.03 19:05:00 - [1651]
 

yea i know ccp will do it anyway, but maybes they will regret it once they start losing money

crockp0t
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.03 19:28:00 - [1652]
 

Against.

Elaine Celeste
Celeste Industries
Posted - 2008.08.03 19:31:00 - [1653]
 

I'm against it. Reduce snakes/boosters/gang bonuses/deadspace mwd's slightly... or make them give bonuses to agility instead, but leave the rest of the game alone.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.08.03 19:49:00 - [1654]
 


Was raised in today's CSM meeting - discussion ensued - chatlog is Vote on nano-nerf statement at 16:45

Feel free to have a read about what was said.

THEGREAT LOBO
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.08.03 20:03:00 - [1655]
 

Against the nerf in its current form Crying or Very sad

Katherine Cole
Posted - 2008.08.03 20:23:00 - [1656]
 

against

Great Emrys
Pator Tech School

Posted - 2008.08.03 21:11:00 - [1657]
 

Against. Nanos need a revision but this goes too far.

Seetesh
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2008.08.03 21:19:00 - [1658]
 

Against

Spyra Gryra
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2008.08.03 21:24:00 - [1659]
 

sry, nop

Minamoto Taira
Posted - 2008.08.03 23:11:00 - [1660]
 

against

hidden tiger
Posted - 2008.08.03 23:26:00 - [1661]
 


Rusty DP
Caldari
V i r u s
Posted - 2008.08.03 23:30:00 - [1662]
 

signed/

Inistis
V i r u s
Pendulum of Doom
Posted - 2008.08.03 23:32:00 - [1663]
 

against

Pogo Stick
Posted - 2008.08.03 23:35:00 - [1664]
 

Originally by: Elaine Celeste
I'm against it. Reduce snakes/boosters/gang bonuses/deadspace mwd's slightly... or make them give bonuses to agility instead, but leave the rest of the game alone.


Iam with this.

Red Thunder
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2008.08.03 23:46:00 - [1665]
 


Tia' Moroth
Posted - 2008.08.03 23:48:00 - [1666]
 

Ok so our subscription money is being wasted flying you to Iceland to talk about Issues that really mater such as MUSICAL ****ING INSTRUMENTS? Not the game breaking changes the dev's who asume the standard nano pilot has a full set of High Grade snakes and T2 Rigs.

Christ almight. I might as well biomass my charicters right now.

Isanoe nothwood
Carnivale.
Posted - 2008.08.03 23:54:00 - [1667]
 

against

LVirus
Enterprise Estonia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.04 00:13:00 - [1668]
 

Edited by: LVirus on 04/08/2008 00:15:11
AGAINST!
Plz CCP dont nerf our last defence vs BLOB.

Leroy Jenkens
Posted - 2008.08.04 00:16:00 - [1669]
 

Against the Nerf in it's current form. The entire game moves to slow on Sisi now.

Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.08.04 01:36:00 - [1670]
 

Against as presented.

Octo VII
Posted - 2008.08.04 02:05:00 - [1671]
 

Against.

Arrgs
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.08.04 02:06:00 - [1672]
 

Against as presented

RenegadeRacer
Donner Party
Twisted Aggression
Posted - 2008.08.04 02:16:00 - [1673]
 

Nano FTW!!!!

MuthaTeresa
Posted - 2008.08.04 06:00:00 - [1674]
 

Against, most definitely.

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2008.08.04 06:11:00 - [1675]
 

Edited by: Sylthi on 04/08/2008 06:21:25
Originally by: Tia' Moroth
Ok so our subscription money is being wasted flying you to Iceland to talk about Issues that really mater such as MUSICAL ****ING INSTRUMENTS? Not the game breaking changes the dev's who asume the standard nano pilot has a full set of High Grade snakes and T2 Rigs.

Christ almight. I might as well biomass my charicters right now.


THIS. I am EXTREMELY disappointed in the CSM reps who voted to put this off and are potentially going to do nothing about this issue.

The entire point of the CSM was/is to bring the ideas/concerns of the player base to the CCP devs. There are now several THOUSAND votes (both for and against) telling you to do just that. You then turn around and vote DIRECTLY to NOT do your job. All I can say is: WTF.

The general consensus of the council was that "it is too early" to say/do anything about this. Absolute Bullocks.

Fact: The "Against" vote poll is winning by more than 2 to 1 at the time of this typing, and has been ever since it was posted.

Does this give the CSM any sort of a clue as to the MAJORITY feelings of the player base concerned by this issue?

Some people CLAIM that the vote has been scewed with alts towards the "AGAINST". But, can't the "FOR" people use alts too? Or are they just more honest by nature than the "AGAINST" people? Rolling Eyes

Fact: Read any 20 pages, hell, read any 10 pages of the "Against" poll and the general consensus becomes so OBVIOUS that a pre-schooler could sort it out. MOST people is BOTH the "For" and "Against" poll (when considered as a whole) agree that a change is needed to speed. But, specifically in the "Against" poll, MANY point out that the devs are going WAY to far and considering too many changes to very BASIC game play elements.

Am I TOTALLY insane, or is this, or is this not, MORE than enough information to DO YOUR JOBS and go to CCP with the idea that they need to (at the very least) severely reduce the SCOPE of the changes they are considering?

Bottom line: To those reps who voted FOR moving forward with this issue: Thank you for keeping the faith with your constituents. To those reps who voted directly NOT to do your jobs: Shame on you. Evil or Very Mad And, good luck getting my vote for re-election.


Lellulah Eshnayim
Posted - 2008.08.04 06:21:00 - [1676]
 

Against.
1. Perhaps a nerf to vessels going "ludicrous" speeds (stacking penalties maybe).
2. Dont touch MWDS, and webs
3. Boost ABs and AFs
4. Leave masses of ships alone.
5. Keep new scram module, although it may need some tweaking.
THIS PATCH KILLS TACTICS, the game will be broken simply to address issues with ships that are a billion if not billions to fly and are not close to as common as these nuking changes suggest. Simply adding certain stacking penalties would prevent people from going "ludicrously" fast. Hit and run tactics should include other ships besides frigates. There are already ships, especially with the new scram mod, that are effective at taking down ludicrous fast ships anyway and their cost is a mere fraction of the cost of the superfast ship. You are also really killing the role of blasterboats that need the speed, recons(especially the huginn/rapier as its role is a frig killer), the vaga would be silly now as well. I think if these changes are enacted we will see more nerfs to "attempt" to correct the imbalances/inadequacies spawned by these changes. Nerfing launchers next, then people will gripe about sniping, meanwhile the gangs/tactics you will see will be very one dimensional compared to what existed before. Tons of frig/some ECM ships, with sniping BSs, or just simply mass blobs at the gates. Many HACs and recons are rendered broken. A megathron blaster boat will be screwed. Also, quite a slap in the face to someone that has invested a hell of a lot of training for mindlinks (money given to you i might add) only to have the speed bonus stack such that any ship that is "fast" wont get much of a benefit, same can be said of snake implants, and if you rely on both you are synergetically screwed. There is nothing wrong with cruisers being able to go from 2.5 - 5 km/s without spending a billion isk. These speeds are very reasonable to be able to counter against. If you feel you need to nerf webs so much, you should give a web effectiveness bonus to those ships in which webbing was its role, not just a maurader (are you kidding?)

Sniper EMP
Posted - 2008.08.04 06:55:00 - [1677]
 

Against.

Sir Atkinson
Mercenary Forces

Posted - 2008.08.04 07:58:00 - [1678]
 

I endorse this...

p4wl
Dark-Rising
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.04 08:34:00 - [1679]
 

against!

Speedy Bobcat
Posted - 2008.08.04 09:38:00 - [1680]
 

Against

Boost anti-nano, for example increase web range, is better than nerf nano.
Nano is need to be rebalanced, but not so extremely.


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