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Mitsuni Abashadoni
Minmatar
The Establishment
Establishment
Posted - 2008.11.10 20:14:00 - [4291]
 

Edited by: Mitsuni Abashadoni on 10/11/2008 20:13:59
So to sum things up you went

"OH HAI! We care about our community and will take another look at this"

back when the first massive response to these changes were announced, and then took a look at it again, and decided that

"OH HAI! Sod that, we're going through with most of the changes that affect multiple aspects of this, and oh by the way, we don't really care what you think about this and that a lot of people are very upset about these changes and have provided feedback upon testing this, and oh, not to mention that you're changing pretty much everything that affects speed and inertia in the game."

Brilliant CCP, just brilliant.


YTL Stinger
Clown Punchers.
Clown Punchers Syndicate
Posted - 2008.11.11 00:02:00 - [4292]
 

This is so gonna rock! Just wait til there are 15-20+ bc and bs fleets everywhere. Then let the lagfest begin! "CCP nerfs speed and players counter with passive drake fleets everywhere striking the server for BOOYAA damage!!!!"

Darius Grey
Posted - 2008.11.12 01:27:00 - [4293]
 

ok, noah made a good argument on why they altered mwd's, afterburners, and implants. So if the intent was to make it so that those weren't as desirable (supposedly to get to ludicrous speeds) why cut so much from the base speed of the ships? My ship lost nearly 1/3 its speed, my only enhancment, space ship command trained to lvl 4. Now, i need to figure which med slot to cut so i can throw a afterburner or mwd in there, just so it doesn't take me 2hrs to float slowly to the acc gate i need to get to the next room in a mission.

I can see the "balancing" read nerfing of afterburners, and mwd's and some of the implants. but if u cut those out, his arguements about ludicrous speed don't stand up, because the factors affecting it are gone. But they still ****d the base speed of "most" ship classes.

Darius Grey
Posted - 2008.11.12 01:29:00 - [4294]
 

i can't beleive that " ra p ed" in my earlier comment was ****'d

Galies
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:33:00 - [4295]
 

Hey CCP, thanks. I mean it, I just love the fact that i trained all that time to fly a Crow and have the ability to fit it properly, and now i lose 8oom/s. I cant get over how happy i am that i spent all that time getting into a ship that would allow me to conduct solo PvP and evade heavy missiles effectively and now that Crow might as well sit in my hangar collecting dust. Its touching to know that you guys care enough to kiil the effectiveness of some of the most specialized ships. One request though, if you are gonna hobble the Crow and other interceptors, please make it harder for the interceptor killers like the Vagabond, Curse, and Rapier to kill the interceptor?

Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:48:00 - [4296]
 

Don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but the MWD changes make the Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters MWD strictly better than MWD II. It has better cap and power requirements *and* requires less cap to use while giving the same speed bonus. Utterly ridiculous.

Galiessis
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:59:00 - [4297]
 

Exactly Faffy. i use the cat's exclusively on my Crow's. With all skills and with one T2 overdrive and one T2 nano, i used to be able to fly just over 4800 m/s. I've flown my Crow once tonight and i can just barely break 4100m/s. It just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know i wasted all that training.

Firewolf21
Posted - 2008.11.12 08:35:00 - [4298]
 

As far as my minmatar main is concerned, he still has a range bonus to webs with his rapier even if they are at 60%, and his dps/tank muninn will still be just as effective, and even faster perhaps with an AB.

If I understand the stats correctly, BS class weapons will be less effective on smaller ships then before. It will be harder then it is already to track and cause full damage on small targets with large projectiles. If this is so, I can't be the only person who still sees the potential for speed-tanking larger, more powerful (and unaware!) targets.

Sure the game will change, but tbh I think those who are primarily nano training are focusing too much on their top-speed and still haven't seriously read and understood the dev-blog!

1. You will still be able to escape and avoid the battles you cannot win or worse, cannot gain a kill with.

2. Being webbed does not mean instant death anymore. Rapier pilots like myself are no longer "GOD HAS STRUCK YOU DOWNNN, HAHA!" to nanos. Rejoice!

3. Your navigation training is still worth a lot. I haven't been in eve for as long as many of you have, but still I never regret training anything; and in reference to that one 4 year pilot who was complaining (he was at the beginning somewhere...) about training solely for nano and was threatening to leave eve: Snap out of it!

4. Slower battleships? It will be annoying as hell tbh, not that they were that fast anyway. Probably be using more armor tanks now, which isn't too much of a problem.

5. "Ludicrous speed" --- :P

Firewolf21
Posted - 2008.11.12 09:45:00 - [4299]
 

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=861746&page=2

Seems the missile side of this is still being worked on. Haven't read all of it yet, but there are some good ideas at the beginning, before the discussion falls apart that is, heh.

Aragonis
DROW Org
Brotherhood of the Spider
Posted - 2008.11.13 00:58:00 - [4300]
 

Do CCP have no concept of "customer feedback"? They pitch some ideas, we tell them that the ideas suck. They go ahead and do it anyway.

Here's how I read the latest patch posts from CCP:
Quote:
Dear Customers,

Please drop your pants and bend over.

- CCP

Lorac Caladon
Caldari
The Cowboy Junkies
Posted - 2008.11.13 21:05:00 - [4301]
 

Originally by: Aragonis
Do CCP have no concept of "customer feedback"? They pitch some ideas, we tell them that the ideas suck. They go ahead and do it anyway.

Here's how I read the latest patch posts from CCP:
Quote:
Dear Customers,

Please drop your pants and bend over.

- CCP

This seems to be the policy lately...

Rock'n'Roll Lady
Posted - 2008.11.14 02:29:00 - [4302]
 

Originally by: Aragonis
Do CCP have no concept of "customer feedback"? They pitch some ideas, we tell them that the ideas suck. They go ahead and do it anyway.

Here's how I read the latest patch posts from CCP:
Quote:
Dear Customers,

Please drop your pants and bend over.

- CCP



^^this is the ultimate truth

Firewolf21
Posted - 2008.11.14 03:33:00 - [4303]
 

CCP is conducting business just like everyone else is. If they are as cracked-up as you think they are, they seriously wouldn't have made it as far as this patch. There would be no eve right now to fight over.

amarrian priest
Posted - 2009.01.01 00:31:00 - [4304]
 

you guys are whining to much, just adapt and overcome...or leave..this game isn't gonna give u free kills, we all have to adapt..besides..this game is about tactics and how to counter enemies...doesn't matter how many skills u have..if know how to counter effectivly u win.Rolling Eyes...duh!


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