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Fitz VonHeise
Caldari
Eye Bee Em
Stellar Defense Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:13:00 - [1]
 

Originally by: Akov Stohs
The op is trying to infer Goons have been launching attacks against TeamSpeak servers.
Yes they do.

They did this to the RoadKill/SMASH server. The solution was for the admin to ban the whole IP range of the attacking pc's IP. The admin tried to ban just the IP but the attacker switched instantaneously to another IP.

So if you suddenly find someone connecting and disconnecting to your server over and over again the Goons have attacked and just outright ban the whole IP and be done with it.

If they have spies then they know your password and will attempt to bring your communications down at the best time to inflict the most losses on your ships. It has nothing to do with whether TS is better or worse then other programs.

I decided that the answer needs to be upfront in it's own post so other alliances that are attacked by the Goons will know what to do about these attacks.

Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:19:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Fitz VonHeise


They did this to the RoadKill/SMASH server.
Yes because Goons are the only people in EVE who think RK/Smash are sh*t, and therefore are obviously the only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.




Originally by: Fitz VonHeise

I decided that the answer needs to be upfront in it's own post so other alliances that are attacked by the Goons will know what to do about these attacks.


You must be clinically insane to spout this idiocy in print for other people to read.

What you mean is you decided to slander a group, without proper proof, and post several lines of utter and total unfounded bullsh*t....




toxicvega
Gallente
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:20:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: toxicvega on 21/07/2008 20:20:33
First in a thread about stuff form another thread. Very Happy

Welp, Second I guess.

TroNaaR
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:20:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: TroNaaR on 21/07/2008 20:20:48
TS f$$$$ing sucks

Trind2222
Amarr
The Red Ring
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:20:00 - [5]
 

They are not goonswarm they are goons.net
This happen in the past whit dark rising is shod be a post some where about it.

Junie Jones
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:20:00 - [6]
 

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Hyrieus
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:22:00 - [7]
 

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kublai
Caldari
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:23:00 - [8]
 

I'm attacking your post...as usual.

Fitz VonHeise
Caldari
Eye Bee Em
Stellar Defense Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:24:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Grath Telkin
... only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.
This about the tactics Goons use to hamper communications not about whether RK/Smash deserved to fall.

And you can try to spin this anyway you want....
Goons used and use this tactic.

Karina Bellac
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:24:00 - [10]
 

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Zeitgueist
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:24:00 - [11]
 

We're hacking you with our own custom version of AOHell 2.0, true story.

Hyrieus
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:25:00 - [12]
 

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Fitz VonHeise
Caldari
Eye Bee Em
Stellar Defense Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:28:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Hyrieus
With Peoke on TS, they're probably doing you a favor tbh.
Smile

Trind2222
Amarr
The Red Ring
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:29:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Grath Telkin
... only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.
This about the tactics Goons use to hamper communications not about whether RK/Smash deserved to fall.

And you can try to spin this anyway you want....
Goons used and use this tactic.

1. They are not goons form in game.

2. They are hackers who hacks Team Server knowns as goons.net

3.No one in goons will hack ts they send a Spy in your corp but newer hack the ts.

Fitz VonHeise
Caldari
Eye Bee Em
Stellar Defense Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:31:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Trind2222
3.No one in goons will hack ts they send a Spy in your corp but newer hack the ts.
Riiiiight. Rolling Eyes

Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:33:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
This about the tactics Goons use to hamper communications not about whether RK/Smash deserved to fall.



Perhaps i can spell it out for you since you failed to grasp the concept of my post.

JUST because it happened when you were fighting Goon, doesn't mean it WAS Goon, could have been anybody out of the thousands of EVE players who think your are sh*t, that decided to help out Goon in their own way by attacking your TS during the fleet fight.

Sometimes, being a big enough piece of sh*t, can result in the entire cluster wanting you flushed, so don't assume it was a Goon, could've been anybody...anybody that didn't like you at all, and had the notice of the fleet op, and the ability to commit the time to making you miserable.

Hesh Ballantine
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:34:00 - [17]
 

Since you felt this required a whole new thread, I'll repeat myself here and make you look stupid in both places.

So what you're saying is that SE/c0ven/ATLAS whoever are too cheap to pony up for a real TS server? What did you think would happen when you pile 200+ people onto a free TS host? Or maybe you're saying that the SE/c0ven/ATLAS Teamspeak server admin is too stupid to anticipate heavy load and adjust broadcast bitrates to accommodate said load? Read > Comprehend > Post. You're a colossal idiot. Nobody compared TS to other programs - I'm talking about the quality of the server you host it on. Or did you think some magical Internet Fairy connected all your voices together? In the true spirit of EVE-O forums idiocy, "Proof or STFU."


Trind2222
Amarr
The Red Ring
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:36:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Trind2222 on 21/07/2008 20:36:59
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Trind2222
3.No one in goons will hack ts they send a Spy in your corp but newer hack the ts.
Riiiiight. Rolling Eyes

My god you are dumb.
oh I found it here is proof http://eve-search.com/thread/502678

By the way I don't like goons but I know how far they will go.

Hesh Ballantine
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:40:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Trind2222

oh I found it here is proof http://eve-search.com/thread/502678

By the way I don't like goons but I know how far they will go.



All that proves is that your corp was riddled with spies and someone socially engineered their way into TeamSpeak CA/SA rights. "Hacking" is not the same as "being a sucker."

Scavok
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:40:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Scavok on 21/07/2008 20:44:50

RK/Smash should probably look internally considering how many of your members were bitter as hell and giving me accounts hand over fist to your TS.

When your TS was attacked I had a slight superiority in system and like 4 people in your gang and ts that were feeding me intel. There was no reason for me or anyone in the leadership who was aware of what was going on to try to stop you from doing something stupid so we could kill your fleet if you ever left your POS.

It's possible it was a random goon, as just about anyone who wanted a registered account on your server could get one with the insane amount of SA's you guys had. But it's just as likely to be anyone else who doesn't like you, or even just some random 14 year old playing with a new script who stumbled across a big vulnerable ts server.

Trind2222
Amarr
The Red Ring
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:49:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Hesh Ballantine
Originally by: Trind2222

oh I found it here is proof http://eve-search.com/thread/502678

By the way I don't like goons but I know how far they will go.



All that proves is that your corp was riddled with spies and someone socially engineered their way into TeamSpeak CA/SA rights. "Hacking" is not the same as "being a sucker."



This was long time but this
what happened :
We normal had normal chat on ts.
sudenly some unknown admin logged on
invited allot of guys insulting us kicking us we cud not rejoin.
We even talked to one goonswarm leaders conferming it was not goonswarm.






Scatim Helicon
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:51:00 - [22]
 

Its me I am the haxxor in the op

Mire Stoude
Gallente
The Undesirables
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:52:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Grath Telkin
Yes because Goons are the only people in EVE who think RK/Smash are sh*t, and therefore are obviously the only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.


You don't like us? Crying or Very sad

But we like you.

Hesh Ballantine
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:53:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Trind2222

This was long time but this
what happened :
We normal had normal chat on ts.
sudenly some unknown admin logged on
invited allot of guys insulting us kicking us we cud not rejoin.
We even talked to one goonswarm leaders conferming it was not goonswarm.



This is what really happened:

You trusted too many people, and gave too many people SA. One (or more) was a spy. That person created this 'unknown admin' through completely normal methods.

Again, why waste the effort of brute force hacking someone's password when you know they're dumb enough to just give it to you?

Tress Macneille
Caldari
Eight year old girls
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:53:00 - [25]
 

yeah we did that

n00b alt3
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:58:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Scavok
Edited by: Scavok on 21/07/2008 20:44:50

RK/Smash should probably look internally considering how many of your members were bitter as hell and giving me accounts hand over fist to your TS.

When your TS was attacked I had a slight superiority in system and like 4 people in your gang and ts that were feeding me intel. There was no reason for me or anyone in the leadership who was aware of what was going on to try to stop you from doing something stupid so we could kill your fleet if you ever left your POS.

It's possible it was a random goon, as just about anyone who wanted a registered account on your server could get one with the insane amount of SA's you guys had. But it's just as likely to be anyone else who doesn't like you, or even just some random 14 year old playing with a new script who stumbled across a big vulnerable ts server.


first off our ts wasn't hacked, so to speak, we just had about 10 accounts rapidly joining and leaving the server, and with the bouncing that all the channels did, it was hard to actually join the right channel by clicking.

The odds of some group just randomly doing this at the exact time that a fleet fight is going on on said ts is pretty unlikely, seeing as the previous 20 months had been attack-free.

The one time this happened that i was online for, btw, we held the field and killed more ships.

then two hours later someone decided it would be cool to bring 10 or so carriers to camp the gate with 20+ hostile dreads in system.

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2008.07.21 20:59:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Scavok
Edited by: Scavok on 21/07/2008 20:44:50

RK/Smash should probably look internally considering how many of your members were bitter as hell and giving me accounts hand over fist to your TS.

When your TS was attacked I had a slight superiority in system and like 4 people in your gang and ts that were feeding me intel. There was no reason for me or anyone in the leadership who was aware of what was going on to try to stop you from doing something stupid so we could kill your fleet if you ever left your POS.

It's possible it was a random goon, as just about anyone who wanted a registered account on your server could get one with the insane amount of SA's you guys had. But it's just as likely to be anyone else who doesn't like you, or even just some random 14 year old playing with a new script who stumbled across a big vulnerable ts server.


Translation: yes, it probably was a Goon who hacked your server, but it's your fault....

What a pathetic justification - it's like saying "Sorry, shopkeeper, it's not my fault I stole from you - it's your fault for having a shop". Perhaps they could have been more secure voice comms, but it's the despicable metagaming and griefing from you player base that is to 'blame'. Get a decent excuse next time.

Tress Macneille
Caldari
Eight year old girls
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.07.21 21:01:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Tress Macneille
yeah we did that

Hesh Ballantine
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.07.21 21:04:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: General Windypops
Translation: yes, it probably was a Goon who hacked your server, but it's your fault....

What a pathetic justification - it's like saying "Sorry, shopkeeper, it's not my fault I stole from you - it's your fault for having a shop". Perhaps they could have been more secure voice comms, but it's the despicable metagaming and griefing from you player base that is to 'blame'. Get a decent excuse next time.



I'm so glad you came to the party. :) Seriously though, even guys that were there are admitting they weren't "hacked". That word gets kicked around a lot here but again, giving out SA to a spy is hardly the same thing as being hacked. It may be semantics to you, but it's the truth. To further your analogy, maybe the shopkeeper should try closing and locking his doors and not hiring ex-convicts. Yes, I just compared my compatriots to ex-convicts.

Fitz VonHeise
Caldari
Eye Bee Em
Stellar Defense Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.21 21:05:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 21/07/2008 21:06:09

Originally by: Grath Telkin
JUST because it happened when you were fighting Goon, doesn't mean it WAS Goon, ...
The 'hacking' (or service denial attack) took place just as RK/Smash fleet warped into a huge furball of a fight with the Goons... as in Goonswarm.

You can believe in coincidences if you want.
I'll let the Eve community come to their own conclusions.


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