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H Lecter
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2008.07.18 07:53:00 - [61]

Originally by: Zera Yonito
When you are mining and minding your own business... you are automatically a target. That confuses me... I would gladly pay the pirate how much he wants to avoid losing my ship! Hell i would pay a premium to be able to mine in a low sec! Very good money!

Well, if you wanna come to see The Black Rabbits in your Hulk, I'll gladly ransom you and after paying you'll be freeYARRRR!!. As a matter of fact, ransoming becomes more and more difficult due to a loss of trust into pirate honour, but there are other threads outlining that...

What pirates probably cannot and will not offer is protection in their area. Pirates want to be flexible and protecting a bunch of miners comes very close to being a carebear Razz

You may want to consider joining one of the many alliances out there who control a portion of nullsec. There you'll be able to mine in relative safety, but you will still have to keep an eye on local and watch your intel channels.

The hated carebears are the ones as described in a previous post, complaining about established and well thought out game mechanics that make Eve the harsh world that it is. Instead of adopting to the circumstances they want the circumstances adopted to them. Let's call it Reversed Darwinism - and that is the opposite of what Eve is intended to be.

I hereby also appeal to CCP, not to listen to those jerks. Eve will be a better world when they are fed up and leave the game.Very Happy

Felix Mibaz
Posted - 2008.07.18 08:55:00 - [62]

Read OP, didn't read the rest.

Most people respect what others do, since they pay to play the game in one form or another.

However, being completely misguided and bashing those who shoot at you because you may or may not be somewhere you shouldn't be, does not make them hypocritical. Don't go there or bring more friends. People that make isk just to have it and live for nothing but running missions, etc, is not what the other side of the room does for the most part. PvPers and pirates, etc, that are alting to make isk, aren't doing these things because they like doing it generally. Mostly, they do it, as you said, to fund their PvP habit.

Carebear to live, not live to carebear. Anyways play how you see fit. Smacktards are always around, and they pay to play as well.Very Happy

Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.07.18 10:17:00 - [63]

Originally by: Gwendalyne
Edited by: Gwendalyne on 18/07/2008 03:21:04
Originally by: Kirex
We don't hate carebears because they mine or manufacture, we hate carebears because they constantly ***** about EVERYTHING and want the game changed constantly to suit their play style better at the expense of pvpers. They're driving this game to be more and more towards consensual pvp only, and it's ****ing us off.

Edited to add reference points -by Gwendalyne-

If the carebears <A> want a new ship class in between Transport and freighter, sure whatever, doesn't bother me. If the carebears <B> want a way to stop "griefer" corps from deccing them, or <C> autopilot warp to zero, or <D> 100% ship and module insurance, <E> or perma ban scammers, or any other way to fluff up this game, it directly effects us and that is why we hate the TRUE carebears.

Okay. First off, I am a carebear.

Not because I hate getting ganked. I am still very new to this game and have alreay lost QUITE the number of ships to a gank (and from the aforementioned "griefer" corp wardec-ing us)

It's because when I DO get ganked, I hear all this TRASH TALK in local! "HAHA PWNZ NOOB (JAJAJAJA, ETC.) Come out in your n00b ship and play!"

Absolutely tasteless. Sorry, PVP'ers, but you are guilty by association.

Now, maybe if you would stop <A> following us at our max speed of 100 m/s asking what our hold is worth, (EDIT: While Target-locked) <B> chase grossly inexperienced industrial corps all over Empire, <C> ...Okay, I agree with this one. Autopilot = laziness = not being careful... <D> ...Also agree on this one, but DAYUM when the fittings cost more than the SHIP, don't ya just wish! and <E> spend all day flipping cans and adding/subtracting zeroes/ whatever...

THEN we will stop complaining.

I am a CARE BEAR because I CARE, and I abhor PVP'ers because they MAKE IT TOO OBVIOUS THAT THEY DON'T.

Guilty by association, am I?

That sounds like a fancy way of saying that you're too lazy to avoid stereotyping. Yes, I see "PvPers" smack. But I see plenty and plenty and lots more carebear smack too. In fact in my experience, smacjk tends to be in inverse proportion to the ability to back it up. People who actually are PvPers don't need to smack; they can let their guns do the talking and their tanks do the listening.

I make no claim to being a good PvPer, mind you, but as a rule I don't smack unless I see something truly egregious (like the gang of 9 pirates with a carrier to support near Tama who lost a Domi and a Myrm to our gang of 7 HACs/Inties/1CS, then hid in a station until they had a second carrier to support them, then called us noobs and cowards for declining to engage. All I did was ask how come they lost 2 ships for no kills to cowardly noobs...)

Karrade Krise
Posted - 2008.07.18 12:14:00 - [64]

Looks like a lot of people posting in this thread didn't even bother to read the OP...

Anyways good post. But we must all remember one thing.

Everyone is a hypocrit, except for me

Tenacha Khan
Posted - 2008.07.18 13:16:00 - [65]

I finally found out what this means so


Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.18 18:05:00 - [66]

I'm going to put it like this...

A carebear kill is like sitting down and enjoying a nice rare new york strip steak. It's absolutley delicious, its bloody as hell, and you savor the taste of it long after it's over.

However i will always look at the cow my steak came from and regard it as a lazy, boring, and otherwise unimpressive creature that spends it's life milling about consuming bland weeds, excreting methane, and waiting for the butcher to make its life worthwhile.

I will always enjoy killing carebears with the ships they painstakingly build, but i tire of the cow complaining while i enjoy my steak.

Tharri and Co.
Posted - 2008.07.19 01:42:00 - [67]

I am a pirate and a proud owner of an invention/manufacturing carebear alt (although my marketing methods aren't always the most honest ones, they said I should consider a career as a car dealer Rolling Eyes), because the other activity I've always loved besides blowing up stuff is creating stuff.
My distant goal is to start a small pirate shop in some lowsec system one day, and by doing so I'm hoping to create a small tradehub for outlaws and such.

Pirate Coalition
Posted - 2008.07.19 02:38:00 - [68]

I couldn't be bothered to read more than 10% of the post, but i will say the OP is right & yall are a bunch of sallys

Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
Posted - 2008.07.19 03:40:00 - [69]

People don't like vocal whiny carebears, because they are a minority and they threaten a game they love.

You can find other cooperative, PvE driven MMOs. You can't find another EVE.

Scurvy Rickett
Posted - 2008.07.19 04:54:00 - [70]

Originally by: Tenacha Khan
I finally found out what this means so


what does that mean?

Karrade Krise
Posted - 2008.07.19 13:24:00 - [71]

Originally by: Scurvy Rickett
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
I finally found out what this means so


what does that mean?

True Love Dirty Rag?

Munio Veritas
Black Legion Command
Black Legion.
Posted - 2008.07.19 23:43:00 - [72]

Originally by: Scurvy Rickett
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
I finally found out what this means so


what does that mean?

Too late; dead raven.Rolling Eyes

Pegleg Punk
Posted - 2008.07.20 00:23:00 - [73]

I absolutely love carebears, and my goal is to hug as many as I possibly can.

Le Moulin Rouge
Posted - 2008.07.20 08:28:00 - [74]

Originally by: RuleoftheBone
OP-have a free gift:

Angus Thermopyle says you need to stop reading cuddly sci-fi and get down and dirty with the bad boys of the genre Laughing.

Compliment you on your choice, one of my fav epic reads of all time Very Happy

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