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Larkonis Trassler
Doctrine.
Posted - 2008.07.10 18:05:00 - [1]
 

So I was taking my loltackle nano Scimitar out and about, had to pass through a couple of hisec systems to get to where I was going. No dramas, navy don't scram anymore, if they do get a lock they just web and you instawarp \o/
All was fine, waited out all my agro timers then jumped back to hisec. I jump into Faurent, warp to my outbound gate and get this message:
[ 2008.07.10 17:41:43 ] (info) You are a criminal and this stargate will not allow you to jump. The criminal timer will run out 2 minutes 46 seconds ago.

No worries, this was not unexpected as it happened last night so I warp around until that timer is up, I then warp back to the gate and get this message:
[ 2008.07.10 17:44:25 ] (info) You are a criminal and this stargate will not allow you to jump. The criminal timer will run out 5 minutes 27 seconds ago.

In the few seconds of shock and annoyance at being unable to jump I get scrambled and pwned by the navies.
So, wtf is this all about, how did it happen and where is the documentation about it?

Black Scorpio
Posted - 2008.07.10 19:05:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Black Scorpio on 10/07/2008 19:05:33
Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
So I was taking my loltackle nano Scimitar out and about, had to pass through a couple of hisec systems to get to where I was going. No dramas, navy don't scram anymore, if they do get a lock they just web and you instawarp \o/
All was fine, waited out all my agro timers then jumped back to hisec. I jump into Faurent, warp to my outbound gate and get this message:
[ 2008.07.10 17:41:43 ] (info) You are a criminal and this stargate will not allow you to jump. The criminal timer will run out 2 minutes 46 seconds ago.

No worries, this was not unexpected as it happened last night so I warp around until that timer is up, I then warp back to the gate and get this message:
[ 2008.07.10 17:44:25 ] (info) You are a criminal and this stargate will not allow you to jump. The criminal timer will run out 5 minutes 27 seconds ago.

In the few seconds of shock and annoyance at being unable to jump I get scrambled and pwned by the navies.
So, wtf is this all about, how did it happen and where is the documentation about it?


In the mean time, somewhere in CCP quarters, programming cube..

... where the F*ck did i paste that f-ing piece of code about randomness in the last patch, ... 10 min later, ah f it, i'll compile anyway, there will be more patches.. whatever.. Very Happy

Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
Posted - 2008.07.11 00:33:00 - [3]
 

Quite a few ****ed up timers out there. Everything from hidden PvP flags to GCCs popping up out of no-where. I guess they are "bonus features", kinda like clearing PvP flags (but not NPC/GCC flags?) when you jump a gate so you can logoffski.

Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.11 00:46:00 - [4]
 

Had the same today trying to dock in a hisec station. I went to another one, was glad it wasnt in a combat situation though.

Gark32
Killer Koalas
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2008.07.11 01:09:00 - [5]
 

lost a pod to the same basic thing. "i undocked, was in a pretty good battle, lost my ship. i try to dock my pod, and it says "can't redock while undocking, you should be squeezed out in 12 seconds." i count to 12, being scrammed, and try again. "can't redock while undocking, you should be squeezed out in another 29 seconds." pod goes squish.

Morel Nova
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.07.11 11:21:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Morel Nova on 11/07/2008 11:21:34
I'v had quite a number of problems with timers (much to the amusement of my fellow pirates). Stuff like waiting out aggression and GCC timer inside a station, switching ships to an interceptor and undocking when done only to get popped by the guns and a fresh new 15 minute countdown... these days I always jump to an insta spot in front just in case.

I did petition the losses, but got replies like: "switching ships resets timer" on which I said "but I got no new timer showing in the interface!"

<tinfoil>some days I wonder if CCP is out to get me...</tinfoil>

Bahhs Deep
Posted - 2008.07.11 11:30:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Gark32
lost a pod to the same basic thing. "i undocked, was in a pretty good battle, lost my ship. i try to dock my pod, and it says "can't redock while undocking, you should be squeezed out in 12 seconds." i count to 12, being scrammed, and try again. "can't redock while undocking, you should be squeezed out in another 29 seconds." pod goes squish.


Sounds to me like you had just undocked, and you decided to lock them up before your 30second undocking timer went out.

H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2008.07.11 13:01:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
[ 2008.07.10 17:41:43 ] (info) You are a criminal and this stargate will not allow you to jump. The criminal timer will run out 2 minutes 46 seconds ago.


Yes, I made a similar experience recently, just travelling without aggressing anything. Thanks to the pirate gods I only lost an Atron.

Honestly this sucks big timeSad

SkeletonDenial
Dead Reckoning.
Posted - 2008.07.11 16:24:00 - [9]
 

*same same*

Sat in space to wait of red and yellow, warp to gate, only to have a bran new 14:59 red.

They just hate pirates tis all.



Deitre Cibrus
Turntable Dubbers
Posted - 2008.07.11 17:05:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: SkeletonDenial
*same same*

Sat in space to wait of red and yellow, warp to gate, only to have a bran new 14:59 red.

They just hate pirates tis all.





similar thing happened to me, lost my cheetah, petitioned it and apparently its part of the game mechanics Confused

Malaan Tabfassh
The Flowing Penguins
Posted - 2008.07.11 18:01:00 - [11]
 

same there :)

killed a target and now waiting for around half an hour that my gcf expires, it keeps resetting to 13 minutes randomly ...

Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.07.11 18:13:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Dez Affinity on 11/07/2008 18:13:19
Originally by: Malaan Tabfassh
same there :)

killed a target and now waiting for around half an hour that my gcf expires, it keeps resetting to 13 minutes randomly ...


I've had that, GM reset the NPCs spawn in system but I had to wait till downtime for it to stop renewing.

I've also been told I'm not allowed to jump through a gate 'while undocking'.

Samacia
Posted - 2008.07.11 18:36:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Black Scorpio
Edited by: Black Scorpio on 10/07/2008 19:05:33

In the mean time, somewhere in CCP quarters, programming cube..

... where the F*ck did i paste that f-ing piece of code about randomness in the last patch, ... 10 min later, ah f it, i'll compile anyway, there will be more patches.. whatever.. Very Happy





Everyone knows that testing in Production is the best way to find the bugs since the user test group is large and through. Then, you can fix the bugs and put the new code in development; now you have some 'good' code work with.



Razz


Angeltara
Sinners.
Burn Away
Posted - 2008.07.11 19:09:00 - [14]
 

Heh, had the same thing happen a few times to me. I just thought it was because I was a scary pirate, and Concord just wanted to show me who's boss.

EVE's version of being hassled by the man.

Angel

Darth Syphils
Noshikkan
Posted - 2008.07.11 20:54:00 - [15]
 

Aggression timers are ****ty. I had a global one time from popping a few frigs in my omen in a belt, warped to the station to dock up (had about 9 min's left at this point)as i approached the dock ramp a hyperion shot at me while i was docking up.

I chilled out in the station for a few checked the age of the hyp pilot he was about 3 weeks old so i figured after this global is gone ima go wtfbbq this guy. The red flag ended but i still had the yellow i check it and it was against the pilot that shot me so i undock hes right outside still blinking red to me so i lock him up and start shooting then all the station guns lock me up and BOOM!.

Im not sure what kind of screwed up aggression timers the game has but I sally stay away from any gates or stations with any kind of timers.

William Escobar
Gallente
Trichomes Unlimited
Posted - 2008.07.12 04:31:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Darth Syphils
Aggression timers are ****ty. I had a global one time from popping a few frigs in my omen in a belt, warped to the station to dock up (had about 9 min's left at this point)as i approached the dock ramp a hyperion shot at me while i was docking up.

I chilled out in the station for a few checked the age of the hyp pilot he was about 3 weeks old so i figured after this global is gone ima go wtfbbq this guy. The red flag ended but i still had the yellow i check it and it was against the pilot that shot me so i undock hes right outside still blinking red to me so i lock him up and start shooting then all the station guns lock me up and BOOM!.

Im not sure what kind of screwed up aggression timers the game has but I sally stay away from any gates or stations with any kind of timers.



Same thing happened to me with my ranis... Petitioned to no avail.

Gark32
Killer Koalas
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2008.07.12 08:51:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Bahhs Deep
Originally by: Gark32
lost a pod to the same basic thing. "i undocked, was in a pretty good battle, lost my ship. i try to dock my pod, and it says "can't redock while undocking, you should be squeezed out in 12 seconds." i count to 12, being scrammed, and try again. "can't redock while undocking, you should be squeezed out in another 29 seconds." pod goes squish.


Sounds to me like you had just undocked, and you decided to lock them up before your 30second undocking timer went out.


i thought the same, when i saw the first timer, but it reset itself.went from 17 sec to 29 sec.

Larkonis Trassler
Doctrine.
Posted - 2008.07.12 11:05:00 - [18]
 

This is nothing to do with agro timers resetting (often a pain in the arse but I digress), this is to do with hisec gates not letting you through, a pain in the proverbial tbqfh.
This 'feature' has never been mentioned or documented. Where does it come from?

Tenoh
Posted - 2008.07.12 12:07:00 - [19]
 

Well i cant care about some bloody pirates getting pwnd since they all deserve it for ruining my fun but being unable to dock due to me "undocking" is stupid!coming back to station after a mission and waiting to dock for 10 mins isnt normal so CCP better get back to work if they still want players money.

Tardar Muller
CB Corp.
Posted - 2008.07.12 14:56:00 - [20]
 

Session change timers are ****ed up..

The other day i jumped into a 0.0 entrance.. OMG BLOB.. waited out my session change timer.. mwd bak 2 gate.. i get that message (u cant jump, so die ******.. haha).

So does getting targeted and shot at reset the session timer?? or is it normal that a session change is longer than 50seconds(according to my logs which are useless since gm's will not accept player submitted proof) MadMad

Note - Did not spamm jump


Feilamya
Pain Elemental
Posted - 2008.07.12 22:07:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: SkeletonDenial
*same same*

Sat in space to wait of red and yellow, warp to gate, only to have a bran new 14:59 red.

They just hate pirates tis all.

Aggro mechanics are strange sometimes.

Just had my gcc reset 3 or 4 times in a row after blowing up a ratting Maelstrom. The reason was that two guys in the system (one in an AF and another one in a thrasher) looted from the wreck (there was some t1 crap left) or tried to salvage it. After blowing up the can and the drones left behind by the mael, it didn't hap ...

wait a minute ... 13 minutes again? WTF IS THIS?!?!

Spork Thalamus
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
Posted - 2008.07.13 00:58:00 - [22]
 

I've got this light switch in my hallway and I could never figure out what it went to. I just figured it was disconnected. So I've been flipping it whenever I walk past.

Now my electrician has just informed me that it's wired into Eve's criminal timer! I hope you all will accept my sincerest apology and I promise not to touch it again.

McTard
Posted - 2008.07.13 06:13:00 - [23]
 

Get a CSM candidate interested in this problem if it's a pervasive BUG/FEATURE.

Yeah yeah I know, lolz, but it's better than just griping here and having it vanish till some other poor sap gets wtfbbqd and complains.

Atsuko Ratu
Caldari
Quafe Industries
Posted - 2008.07.13 06:29:00 - [24]
 

Poor lark, no one wants to talk about your topic Laughing

Viglen
Gallente
Taurus Inc
Posted - 2008.07.13 11:40:00 - [25]
 

Best one in a while, Haven't laughed this hard in weeksVery HappyWink

Originally by: Spork Thalamus
I've got this light switch in my hallway and I could never figure out what it went to. I just figured it was disconnected. So I've been flipping it whenever I walk past.

Now my electrician has just informed me that it's wired into Eve's criminal timer! I hope you all will accept my sincerest apology and I promise not to touch it again.

LittleTerror
Day Unhappy Security Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.13 15:01:00 - [26]
 

If you dock with a timer showing it will reset back to 15 minutes but it won't show this unless you relog while in the station and so you undock thinking its gone and its hasn't, yeah had this one alot of times. But the gate not letting you jump for 5 minutes humm thats messed up somewhere, I ve never had this happen, I've had 1 min aggro timers at gates but not 5 minutes ones, I'd petition it.

Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
Posted - 2008.07.13 18:17:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Spork Thalamus
I've got this light switch in my hallway and I could never figure out what it went to. I just figured it was disconnected. So I've been flipping it whenever I walk past.

Now my electrician has just informed me that it's wired into Eve's criminal timer! I hope you all will accept my sincerest apology and I promise not to touch it again.


Funny thing is, that makes more sense than some of the replies I've gotten from GMs and BHs.

Darth Syphils
Noshikkan
Posted - 2008.07.16 20:36:00 - [28]
 

And it happened again. Wait out my global red timer, wait out my yellow state protectorate timer and now im good to go right? Undock with now timers what so ever then the station guns open up on my and boom another 15 minute yellow timer. \

At least i didnt lose a ship doing it this time.

LittleTerror
Day Unhappy Security Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.16 20:47:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Darth Syphils
And it happened again. Wait out my global red timer, wait out my yellow state protectorate timer and now im good to go right? Undock with now timers what so ever then the station guns open up on my and boom another 15 minute yellow timer. \

At least i didnt lose a ship doing it this time.


Damn some people are doomed to failure Rolling Eyes

Shigsy
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.07.17 13:05:00 - [30]
 

The best one is where you aggro someone on a gate, they aggro you back, then when they realise they're losing, they jump through without deaggroing!!!!!

EPIC FEATURE!!!!!!!


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