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Tzigan Jegos
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:38:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Tzigan Jegos on 06/07/2008 15:47:45

Which one holds majority?

Orcs, goblins and dragons fans

or

Space ships, interstellar politics and large scale war fans ?

My vote goes to the sci-fi people.

legolas must die.

Mankirks Wife
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:40:00 - [2]
 

Personally I've always been a huge fantasy nut.

Dragons > everything else

But.. Eve is a really good game on its own merits and that's why I play it. Spaceships are cool too Very Happy. Although if CCP's new World of Darkness MMO is like Eve but fantasy you can bet I'll be one of the first in the door.

Siberys
Gallente
Experimental Horizons
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:40:00 - [3]
 

You are asking this on a space ships, interstellar theater polotics and large scale war game?
Epic Phailage.
BTW I vote spaceships.

Tzigan Jegos
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:44:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Siberys
You are asking this on a space ships, interstellar theater polotics and large scale war game?
Epic Phailage.
BTW I vote spaceships.


yes but i'm fairly certain people can make an objective assumption.

world wide, who do you think holds majority ?

Abrazzar
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:50:00 - [5]
 

I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW!

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:53:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW!

That would be Amarr. ;)

Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:54:00 - [7]
 

Spaceships > All

Tzigan Jegos
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:54:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW!


winner!

FlameGlow
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:56:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: FlameGlow on 06/07/2008 12:56:38
Quote:
I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW!

Warhammer has both orks and spaceships Exclamation

Siberys
Gallente
Experimental Horizons
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:58:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: FlameGlow
Edited by: FlameGlow on 06/07/2008 12:56:38
Quote:
I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW!

Warhammer has both orks and spaceships Exclamation

And badass chaos marines and 'nids.

Tzigan Jegos
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:58:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: FlameGlow

Warhammer has both orks and spaceships Exclamation


Savage barbarian species and faster than light propulsion engines surely mix well ! heh...

Dotard
Minmatar
Kernel of War
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.07.06 12:59:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Illwill Bill
Originally by: Abrazzar
I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW!

That would be Amarr. ;)


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Zen Mehari
Posted - 2008.07.06 13:35:00 - [13]
 

I'm a sci-fi fan but,

Good Fantasy > Average Sci-fi & vice versa.

Tzigan Jegos
Posted - 2008.07.06 13:54:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Zen Mehari
Good Fantasy > Average Sci-fi & vice versa.


good > average

very englightening. keep posting.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.07.06 13:56:00 - [15]
 


For movies, sci-fi.
For books, sci-fi.
For games, both.


Tzigan Jegos
Posted - 2008.07.06 13:57:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jim McGregor

For movies, sci-fi.
For books, sci-fi.
For games, both.




And you know why ?! Because goblins and orcs are much easier to implement into games ! Spaceships require some degree of complexity because ... well, they're not just clubs and armors.

Antiquus Altercor
Minmatar
Phoenix Propulsion Labs
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:03:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Antiquus Altercor on 06/07/2008 14:04:28
Edited by: Antiquus Altercor on 06/07/2008 14:04:11




Spaceships > will happen

Magic > 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' Arthur C. Clarke.

I'll add that technology is the ONLY way you are going to get magic.

Orcs, Dragons, restofthatcrap > not on this planet, however if you have a spaceship you may go looking for them.....

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:07:00 - [18]
 

This thread is now about the following vote

Molecules VS Atoms

Come on people - whats your favourite!

SKUNK

Tzigan Jegos
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:09:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Antiquus Altercor

Spaceships > will happen


Make that: already happened.

Originally by: Antiquus Altercor

Magic > 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' Arthur C. Clarke.


What, flying reptiles and green skinned humanoids are advanced technology ? Lol.

Originally by: Antiquus Altercor

I'll add that technology is the ONLY way you are going to get magic.


Unexplained phenomenons does not equal magic. Well, unless you live in the 13th century.

Originally by: Antiquus Altercor

Orcs, Dragons, restofthatcrap > not on this planet, however if you have a spaceship you may go looking for them.....


May be. I doubt it though.

Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:09:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Quetl on 06/07/2008 14:11:30
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
Edited by: Tzigan Jegos on 06/07/2008 12:39:02
Which one holds majority?

Orcs, goblins and dragons fans

or

Space ships, interstellar politics and large scale war fans ?

My vote goes to the sci-fi people.

legolas must die.


Is this a Generic MMO v EVE choice? In Which case EVE.

I love Fantasy novels over Space ones (Although WH40k novels are usually good.), movies hard to call. (BTW i think LOTR can be classed as Large scale war...)

One thing i've always wondered is howcome theres many SCI-FI t.v series, but not many Fantasy ones (I cant actually think of one off the top of me noggin.)

edit:// With your descriptions, i'm guessing your trying to get a "I love EVE"/"EVE kicks WoW's ass" post.

Tzigan Jegos
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:42:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Tzigan Jegos on 06/07/2008 14:43:27
Originally by: Quetl


Is this a Generic MMO v EVE choice? In Which case EVE.

With your descriptions, i'm guessing your trying to get a "I love EVE"/"EVE kicks WoW's ass" post.



No, what I'm trying to point out is the difference between them.

The newer generations are much more exposed to the "lord of the rings" type of 'fantasy', orcs, gnomes and goblins (warcraft3, WoW, countless other games based on the same lore).

Older generations are more into space adventure, spaceships, politics, intrigue, more realistic stuff that will probably happen in the future.

You can't compare them.

One is for grown ups, other is for putting kids to sleep.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:44:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/07/2008 14:45:08
Originally by: Quetl

One thing i've always wondered is howcome theres many SCI-FI t.v series, but not many Fantasy ones (I cant actually think of one off the top of me noggin.)



The large mass dont like fantasy I think, even though the success of The Lord of the Rings trilogy kind of argues against that...

Ive seen some of Bewitched and it has magic, but its not really fantasy. Also its pretty bad and boring.

Siberys
Gallente
Experimental Horizons
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:46:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/07/2008 14:45:08
Originally by: Quetl

One thing i've always wondered is howcome theres many SCI-FI t.v series, but not many Fantasy ones (I cant actually think of one off the top of me noggin.)



The large mass dont like fantasy I think, even though the success of The Lord of the Rings trilogy kind of argues against that...

Ive seen some of Bewitched and it has magic, but its not really fantasy. Also its pretty bad and boring.


Yea. Fantasy makes movies, but leave TV to sci-fi and anime. Please. I hate most of the quasi-fantasy crud they have on TV, at least when they have it (Which is like never)

Grulltan
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:47:00 - [24]
 

Fantasy minus the dragons.

Sci-fi minus the soap-opera.

I like both equaly.

Mankirks Wife
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.06 14:53:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Mankirks Wife on 06/07/2008 14:57:03
Originally by: Antiquus Altercor


Spaceships > will happen

Magic > 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' Arthur C. Clarke.

I'll add that technology is the ONLY way you are going to get magic.

Orcs, Dragons, restofthatcrap > not on this planet, however if you have a spaceship you may go looking for them.....


This is true, but if you think the future will be anything like what modern sci-fi says it will I'd advise you to think again.

108 years ago people thought we'd deliver everything with a world-wide network of pneumatic tubes and the only viable aircraft would be military blimps. Of course, a few of those are spot-on but most are either completely wrong or manifested in a manner very different from what the people of the time originally envisioned.

Not saying it won't happen but it'll be so different it may as well be orcs and magic spells for how accurate it will be - I've always thought of sci-fi as being something like fantasy in denial. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate good sci-fi of course though.

Kraleak
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2008.07.06 15:10:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Mankirks Wife
Edited by: Mankirks Wife on 06/07/2008 14:57:03
world-wide network of pneumatic tubes


THE FUTURE IS NOW D:

Spoon Thumb
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
Vanguard Imperium
Posted - 2008.07.06 15:27:00 - [27]
 


Why you can't have magic in a sci-fi setting is beyond me

Magic doesn't have to be goblins and elves either, those are just stereotypes.

I guess the difference is that fantasy settings is where you speculate on some universe that has different rules set or where things have just happened differently, whilst sci-fi is much more extrapolating along some particular trend in science

But they aren't mutually exclusive

Also, why does science fiction have to be some space opera or "epic" and "world/universe changing". The best fiction for me as a science graduate is that which is more plausable and relevant to my life.

Chances are I'm not gonna be in a position to save the universe, so as pure entertainment maybe, but what really grips me and interests me are stories with elements of fantasy, but based in the principles of science

In any case spaceships > dragons

Siberys
Gallente
Experimental Horizons
Posted - 2008.07.06 15:28:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Spoon Thumb

Why you can't have magic in a sci-fi setting is beyond me


That would make for an interesting MMO. A Sci-fi with magic... I really should make a forum RPG about that.

techzer0
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.07.06 15:36:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Siberys
Originally by: Spoon Thumb

Why you can't have magic in a sci-fi setting is beyond me


That would make for an interesting MMO. A Sci-fi with magic... I really should make a forum RPG about that.
Go be a Jedi. Close enough...


I refuse to play games with wizards and paladins... and especially elves. Evil or Very Mad

Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.07.06 15:39:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/07/2008 15:39:22
Originally by: Siberys
That would make for an interesting MMO. A Sci-fi with magic... I really should make a forum RPG about that.


The Coldfire Trilogy by C.S. Friedman has a small part like that.
(basically a flashback to how humanity managed to survive on the world they're on by sacrificing almost all their advanced technology to be able to survive the magic infused world they were stranded on.)
And a few hints here and there in the story that certain "demons" in the world are incredibly advanced alien lifeforms.
A full blend of Magic with a Sci-Fi universe certainly is a nice concept.
(anyone recall the TV series "visionaries"? That was a bit like that, only cornier. Razz)


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