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Dennis Nedry
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:07:00 - [1]
 

Why do the forums have them and not the game?

Jennai
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:08:00 - [2]
 

because the game has a working ignore function and the forum doesn't

Cors
It's A Trap
It's A Trap Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:08:00 - [3]
 

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Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:08:00 - [4]
 

More importantly, why do they filter all sorts of stupid words like cockpit, s******, crack, and many more?

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:10:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Dennis Nedry
Why do the forums have them and not the game?


Good question.

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:13:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Dennis Nedry
Why do the forums have them and not the game?


Good question.


Because the forums are public, searchable and on the internets? Maybe anyway.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:15:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Dennis Nedry
Why do the forums have them and not the game?

Because there's absolutely no age limitations to VIEWING the forum (in the censored form) as opposed to QUOTING a message to see its actual contents (you need an account, and for that, you're supposed to have a certain age OR adult consent).

Granted, the forum filter is a bit too strong (the airplane's cockpit, a crack in the armour, etc) and we have been repeatedly told that "one day" we might have a less draconic filter, or even a "disable filter" option when logged-in, but none of that happened.

Xonkra
Gallente
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:28:00 - [8]
 

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Complete Tart
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2008.06.29 23:15:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Apoctasy
I can see the words when I quote your post :)


I always said you were a clever lad

Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:00:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kelron Queldine


I know you can see them from quoting, that's not the point. The filter blocks perfectly acceptable words because they contain filtered words.



*****zilla agrees.


DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:06:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: DubanFP on 30/06/2008 00:14:46
Originally by: Cors
Edited by: Cors on 29/06/2008 22:08:30
Becuase anyone's little brother can get onto the net and see me say **** **** ass *****. But only an adult can log into your password protected game and play.


EDIT. Hmm. Ass is no longer filtered.

Ass and damn were never filtered. However for some reason the much more innocent Po-/op, pi/ss, tw/at, and cra/ck are. You can't even say salt/water without the salt water being filtered out. Gotta love the forum's half assed word filter. What makes it really funny is unless something has changed recently you can say damn asswhole and the mods won't/can't take action against you because it's not labeled as bad even though they're worse then half the filtered stuff.

I mean if you do nothing but that they will remove your post on the fact that it's "unconstructive", but casually they won't do anything. I Just wish there was an off switch for those of us who dont' care for a borked censor system.

Smacktalking Alt
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:13:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Smacktalking Alt on 30/06/2008 00:16:01
Eh, filter or not, there are well-known ways to make words slip through the cracks.

Does the word "crack" need to be filtered? Really?

Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:15:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: DubanFP
Edited by: DubanFP on 30/06/2008 00:10:17
Originally by: Cors
Edited by: Cors on 29/06/2008 22:08:30
Becuase anyone's little brother can get onto the net and see me say **** **** ass *****. But only an adult can log into your password protected game and play.


EDIT. Hmm. Ass is no longer filtered.

Ass and damn were never filtered. However for some reason the much more innocent Po-/op and pi/ss are. Gotta love the forum's half assed word filter. What makes it really funny is unless something has changed recently you can say damn asswhole and the mods won't/can't take action against you even though they're worse then half the filtered stuff. I mean if you do nothing but that they will remove your post on the fact that it's "unconstructive", but casually they won't do anything. I Just wish there was an off switch for those of us who dont' care.


Depends where you come from. I don't consider ass (it means donkey ok!) or damn to be very offensive, but piss is more so. Poop, though - I didn't know that was considered offensive anywhere. Little kids use it all the time.

Also, please don't ban me for circumventing the word filter, it's all for a good cause.

DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:22:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: DubanFP on 30/06/2008 05:01:35
Originally by: Kelron Queldine

Depends where you come from. I don't consider ass (it means donkey ok!) or damn to be very offensive, but piss is more so. Poop, though - I didn't know that was considered offensive anywhere. Little kids use it all the time.

Also, please don't ban me for circumventing the word filter, it's all for a good cause.

Ass isn't that bad. Here in the US Pi/ss just means to take a pee. Slang yes. Something you really want to say in an importaint buisiness meeting, no. But it's not really offensive. Twat and pussy are just slang for the vigina. Again with slang, but not really offensive. Also I edited my last post and added a bit more, including about how salt water is caught by the filter. salt water

edit: Never mind about salt water. at least they fixed the salt water issue some time ago.

Amastat
Caldari
Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:30:00 - [15]
 

WoW is this way ->>

As others have said, it's the ratings of the forums versus the game itself that decides that; that's pretty much why.

Personally I thank god for there not being a mandatory filter in-game - often times the libraries for the filtering program is majority "wtf?" to the point where you have to put considerable effort into talking without the censors cutting every other phrase off.

Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:31:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: DubanFP

Here in the US **** just means to take a pee. Slang yes. Something you really want to say in a buisiness meaning, no. But it's not really offensive.


Yeah, it has the same meaning in the UK, maybe it was just my family that treats it as a dirty word Smile

Idara
Caldari
Queens of the Stone Age
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:47:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Idara on 30/06/2008 00:47:04
Damnation!

<edit> Hey they fixed that one! Used to filter a ship name FFS. Laughing

DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.30 02:36:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: DubanFP on 30/06/2008 02:37:20
Originally by: Idara
Edited by: Idara on 30/06/2008 00:47:04
Damnation!

<edit> Hey they fixed that one! Used to filter a ship name FFS. Laughing

Hmm, interesting. I've never seen it filter damn at all, never mind the ship damnation, but some of these thing are pretty funny. Hmm, mitnal is going to LOVE this thread.

CCP Mitnal


C C P
Posted - 2008.06.30 03:45:00 - [19]
 

Cleaned.

This is not an excuse to try the filter out.

The TX
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
Posted - 2008.06.30 04:15:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Cleaned.

This is not an excuse to try the filter out.



ROFL - it SCREAMS 'excuse to try the filter out' to me Razz


Must.... resist.... urge.....





masternerdguy
Gallente
Meerkat Maner
Posted - 2008.06.30 04:16:00 - [21]
 

filtering cusswords is the end of freedom in america.
and for you as well.
dont let it happen!

Rabbitgod
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2008.06.30 04:43:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Rabbitgod on 30/06/2008 04:44:40
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Cleaned.

This is not an excuse to try the filter out.


Poopie, and here I was gonna try all kinds of fubar.

oh my dear god the filter takes out po op. That isnt PG13 thats PG third trimester.


DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.30 05:02:00 - [23]
 

hmm, somehow my replies made it out alive. cool.

Fifinella
Caldari
Nosferatu Security Foundation
Posted - 2008.06.30 06:45:00 - [24]
 

Heh, you think EVE has bad filters? WW2 Online filters "SS" and "ss", which of course can stand for Schutzstaffel, the jolly World War II era German club of men wearing black uniforms.

Unfortunately, some languages, like Finnish, use a lot of double-Ss in everyday words (it is, for example, very important in agglutination (or is that inflection?), where -ssa/-ssä means most of the time "in something" (e.g. talo = house, talossa = in a house)), making the Finnish section of the forums very painful to read.

And of course in a game where you can fly several types of aircraft, filtering the word henpit (you know, the male version, where the pilot of the plane sits) is even sillier than here.

Cpl Punnishment
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2008.06.30 07:45:00 - [25]
 

I understand that many different people of all ages play the game, but on another note...

George "Effin" Carlin died last week!! This man and his "Seven Words" you can't say will be missed.

Aadi Grox
Perkone
Posted - 2008.06.30 07:48:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Aadi Grox on 30/06/2008 07:47:45
because then how else will carebears get rid of pirates, if by not petition spamming every time one of them says ****?

Jennai
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.30 07:51:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Jennai on 30/06/2008 07:51:38
Originally by: Kelron Queldine
Depends where you come from. I don't consider ass (it means donkey ok!) or damn to be very offensive, but piss is more so. Poop, though - I didn't know that was considered offensive anywhere. Little kids use it all the time.


my personal theory on this is that the filters were set up by someone who didn't speak English very well, so they just got a thesaurus and blocked all the synonyms for everything, regardless of whether they're one of the words you can't say on television, or a word that five-year-olds use to describe bathroom activities.

oddly enough, you can say poo even though you can't add another p to the end.

ceyriot
Munition Delivery Services
Posted - 2008.06.30 08:06:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: ceyriot on 30/06/2008 08:05:52
Originally by: DubanFP
I Just wish there was an off switch for those of us who dont' care for a borked censor system.
Once you have an account - just like the game...?

edit - to CSM!

Hendelse
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.30 09:49:00 - [29]
 

hm...

Just have to remove the filter from the forums aswell.
Censorship is just silly

DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.30 16:00:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: ceyriot

Originally by: DubanFP
I Just wish there was an off switch for those of us who dont' care for a borked censor system.
Once you have an account - just like the game...?

edit - to CSM!

Yeah


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