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Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:30:00 - [31]
 

ccp rock, its just like most things in life people with something to complain about are alot more vocal than those who are perfectly happy with the situation, its human nature.

Khrillian
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
Hav0k.
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:40:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Rakaim

Problem: "They gave that [Band of Brothers] guy a blueprint, and that's not fair"
My Response: well first, life isn't fair, second - it's all better now and the person giving out candy to the most powerful alliances has been dealt with. The rest of CCP flies right.


The real thing here is the person who gave them the BP (I think) wasn't fired. This is very bad for PR and accountability in general. They're trying to reverse it with CSM but I dunno how seriously people take that.

Originally by: Rakaim

Problem: "Servers crash 'ALL TEH' TIYM!"
My Response: You try and code this beast. When servers crash I've heard of game administrators getting up in the middle of their night so we can keep playing video games through ours. MMO servers crash - that's what they do. In my experience Eve has crashed the least out of all the MMO's I've played over time.



Maybe you would have a more stable server if your code wasn't based on a demo you made in pre-alpha. Apparently they just kept the "EVE demo version" code and thats what we're still using today. I don't know if that introduces inefficiencies but I'd imagine it does. Apparently it also moves items very inefficiently.

Originally by: Rakaim

Problem: “My boot.ini was pwned and now my computer is screwed”
My Response: Oh my boot.ini was ‘pwned’ too and my computer still booted.



This was a really horrible error and no MMO developers have an excuse for that. Blizzard would never allow something like that (IMO the gold standard of game development, not necessarily products, but methods).

Originally by: Doddy
ccp rock, its just like most things in life people with something to complain about are alot more vocal than those who are perfectly happy with the situation, its human nature.


There is a very obvious difference between whining and legitimate complaints. Legitimate complaints, such as saying the UI is horrible (watch your overview delete settings and jump around every time you undock) would help everyone if CCP responded to them and generally make the game better. Whines, like all of the nano posts, just go on about how a certain group of players (FW noobs) are unable to deal with anything but other slow ships that sit on the gate.

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:46:00 - [33]
 

I think CCP are just about the most innovative and "best" (subjective, obviously) game developers out there. They might not be the most commercially successful and sometimes they might feel like a "mom & pop" game developer, but they have a unique vision that they're always moving towards, which I love.

I have been playing MMOG's since 99 and honestly, i can't think of a single one that is actually bigger & better after 5 years. Most of them have already been shut-down, had server-consolidations or mass player-migrations by the 5 year mark, whereas EVE gets better and more polished with each expansion.

there are very, very few MMOG's that I realistic expect to hit the 5 year mark and almost none that I can see getting to the 10 year mark - but I firmly believe EVE will, and more importantly, I think by the 10 year anniversary, this game will be better than it ever has been.

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:47:00 - [34]
 

Ya, for a company CCP are alright...I mean, way better than (for instance) Blizzard, yet they seem to have a general tardiness in informing the community about problems or whatnot.

So far, they haven't given me much cause to cancel my subscription.

Lothros Andastar
Gallente
Posted - 2008.06.29 22:50:00 - [35]
 

I lub ccp too

/me buys Oveur a b33r

FORD ESC0RT
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.06.29 23:50:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Harry Sachs
I could love CCP were it not for EVE's atrocious UI.


The UI is fine.

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.06.29 23:52:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Harry Sachs
I could love CCP were it not for EVE's atrocious UI.

The UI is fine.

The UI is, in most cases, acceptable. I wouldn't say fine...

Zinras
Caldari
Order of draugr
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:05:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Harry Sachs
I could love CCP were it not for EVE's atrocious UI.


The UI is fine.


You, sir, are a liar Shocked

Haakelen
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:09:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Zinras
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Harry Sachs
I could love CCP were it not for EVE's atrocious UI.


The UI is fine.


You, sir, are a liar Shocked


Well it is ford escort

Zephyr Rengate
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:32:00 - [40]
 

Ford escort is one of the biggest jokes on the forum right now.

JanoMark
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:43:00 - [41]
 

Everyone who plays this game for more than a month likes CCP and even the nubs who complain about CCP actually do like CCP else they wouldn't be playing the damn game and complaining about CCP.

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.06.30 00:47:00 - [42]
 

I would like CCP more if they banned ford escort

DogSlime
Caldari
Wilde Cards
Posted - 2008.06.30 01:58:00 - [43]
 

I really must disagree.

Eve is a great game, but there is much about CCP that sucks.

The OP has cited a number of issues where CCP sucks, and basically says "get over it".

No. CCP charge around £150 per year to play this game. That's a lot of money and therefore, if my boot.ini is deleted by the people who charge £150 per year, I (and anyone else so afflicted) has every right to complain.

CCP charge plenty for a service. When the service is bad, people complain - and they should.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2008.06.30 02:43:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 30/06/2008 02:51:32
Edited by: Taedrin on 30/06/2008 02:43:57
Originally by: Bistot Kid
Originally by: Rakaim
Problem: “My boot.ini was pwned and now my computer is screwed”
My Response: Oh my boot.ini was ‘pwned’ too and my computer still booted.


Let me in on the secret of how your PC booted without a boot.ini then.


"Normal" installs of Windows XP, where Windows is installed on the "first" hard drive, and on the "first" partition, ntldr will be able to correctly guess the location of the windows directory to be:
"multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS"

I believe that the only people really affected by the boot.ini problem were people who had an "abnormal" partition layout on their hard drives.

As for the T20 incident, I believe that CCP was obligated NOT to fire him due to contractual obligations (believe it or not, you can't just fire people whenever you want!) However, I highly doubt that the dev's contracts with CCP would be able to protect them if they tried something like this again.

About the buggy server - IMO, CCP has done a GREAT job with tranquility. Since I started playing, I haven't seen TQ's performance do anything but improve. The things CCP has gotten TQ to do would have even the hardiest of Blizzards WoW servers in the fetal position, crying incessantly.

About the crappy UI - I agree with you. The UI sucks. CCP DEFINITELY needs to fix it ASAP.

However, aside from the UI, I really don't have any complaints about the way CCP does things. From what I've seen, they've poured their heart and soul into this game and have created something truly great. People give CCP too much of a hard time in my opinion.

CCP Mitnal


C C P
Posted - 2008.06.30 04:12:00 - [45]
 

Hey, snap! I think we're great too. Very Happy

And I love you guys xgrouphug.

Of the issues raised we are working on them and along with the CSM look to have a handle on fixing them. As for informing you on issues you feel we need to, our community team has tripled from its original pathfinders and thus we can and do spend more time on informing players.

masternerdguy
Gallente
Meerkat Maner
Posted - 2008.06.30 04:13:00 - [46]
 

we all like ccp

damgood85
Gallente
Gladiators of Rage
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.06.30 04:31:00 - [47]
 

CCP has never done me wrong.

I have never had a server go down on me other then extended down times during upgrades and any crashes i have had were on my end IE my ISP messing with my head or my comp crashing due to some other event.

The few times I have sent in a petition it has peen responded to within a day or so and after following the advice of the mod that responded my issues have been resolved.

I am throughly willing to continue sending CCP my $14 a month and those of you who take issue with ccp's practices can stop sending your cash at any time... and PS if you stop can i have ur stuff?

MidnightMatriarch
Posted - 2008.06.30 04:44:00 - [48]
 

Wow, you actually stopped stroking random Devs rods enough to type this post. Or did you just switch to fellating them?

And though I dislike pointless kiss up posts, I agree, CCP is a awesome company.

Xercies Ravere
Posted - 2008.06.30 08:30:00 - [49]
 

I am quite new t oCCP but i like them already, sure they are not perfect and they have done things that have been unacceptable but not every company is perfect and they do try to fix their mistakes. Long may they continue.

LordSwift
Caldari
The Riot Act
Sacra Cupola
Posted - 2008.06.30 09:01:00 - [50]
 

I agree as well. CCP are awesome. I agree they have there flaws but no one is perfect. I have no personal complaints about them. Except they need to give me ambulation now. Evil or Very Mad
Most MMOs are long dead by 5 years. Eve just keeps getting better and better. Two free expansions a year. Cant complain about that

Keep up the good work CCP and i will be here even when EVE is ten years old and older.

Hannobaal
Gallente
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2008.06.30 09:22:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
I would like CCP more if they banned ford escort

Xaziar Nortocus
Forces Unknown Inc
Posted - 2008.06.30 09:54:00 - [52]
 

We all love CCP, thats why were still paying to play EVE!

^^^ TRUTH ^^^

Illwill Jill
Gallente
For a fistful of Veldspar
Posted - 2008.06.30 10:00:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Xaziar Nortocus
We all love CCP, thats why were still paying to play EVE!
^^^ TRUTH ^^^

I keep playing EVE because I love EVE. ;)
On a more serious note, CCP is doing an awesome job at keeping EVE interesting.

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.30 10:17:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 30/06/2008 10:32:55
Originally by: Rakaim
What's wrong with the UI?


Try undocking in Empire while at war and have war targets on the station. When your UI resets on undock the overview is overcrowded with NPC ships and neutral player ships. It adds a few extra steps to get to your targets targeted and in combat those few seconds can equal unchallenged death.


Originally by: Taedrin
(believe it or not, you can't just fire people whenever you want!)


Depends on where you live Wink

EDIT: Oh yes; CCP rocks!!!


Slade

Daelorn
Posted - 2008.06.30 10:19:00 - [55]
 

CCP FTFW. <3

Rach'Na
Posted - 2008.06.30 10:30:00 - [56]
 

love ccp aswell, but as said before they are not perfect, the thing that maybe bothers me the most is the gigantic lagg sometimes in large fleet battles.
There would be nothing wrong with that if they wouldnt promote it so much, when I first started this game in 2004 it was possible to be a lone pirate, now its all about large fleets with bubbles and laggy gank ****.

I mean look at the last trailer, very nice idd but it wouldnt be playable.

Nevertheless good job ccp and I hope youguys keep listening to the players to make it a better game. Smile

Nuclear Warrior
Posted - 2008.06.30 11:34:00 - [57]
 

Apart from turning my brand new 150m rigged navy issue augoror into a worthless piece of ****, I have no reason to hate on CCP, keep up the good work.

(And give me my Augoror back!)

Astria Tiphareth
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2008.06.30 12:28:00 - [58]
 

Couldn't agree more. Nobody's perfect, but CCP have done exceptionally well in the time I've been in EVE.

Try other MMOs to see what you get by comparison. Days of downtime for just normal maintenance is just one example that comes to mind, let alone the fact that CCP actually listens to its customer base (that doesn't mean they have to agree); not seen that anywhere else.


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