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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:30:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: BhallSpawn
Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:14:51
apparently voicing dissatisfaction with a sub-standard service, and obvious improper allocation of company resources, isn't allowed.

paying customers aren't allowed to speak up it seems.



I bet you get crappy service from a lot of people don't you? Laughing

Tsunasis
Caldari
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:33:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: BhallSpawn
Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:14:51
apparently voicing dissatisfaction with a sub-standard service, and obvious improper allocation of company resources, isn't allowed.

paying customers aren't allowed to speak up it seems.



The product CCP provides isn't substandard, and it is NOT causing your disconnects. I'm a USA customer who has the good fortune to be on the Verizon backbone instead of either Sprint or Savvis, but Sprint and Savvis are the problems, not EvE. Your wrath is misplaced - CCP can't fix a pair of network backbones owned by a pair of the largest communications providers in the world. And since those communications providers are currently pretty deep in it, I doubt there's anything they aren't currently throwing at this problem.

Kimiyo Ishikawa
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:34:00 - [33]
 

For the last time, could someone please tell me how to figure out which backbone I'm using to connect to EVE?

BhallSpawn
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:37:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:38:37
no.. you guys don't get it

I'm saying that motherships, titans, ambulation, factional warfare, 2 or 3 expansions and loads of other content isn't what this game needs.

This game needs whoever puts the money into the content developers hands, that guy needs to be fired.

I've been in this game almost 3 years now.... and I've seen the connectivity issue and lag issue addressed once.

This game markets itself on fleet vs fleet warfare... Look at the banner on the home page of eve... I don't see small gangs on that banner. Nor do I see them anywhere else on the net. Everywhere you see a eve-online ad its marketed as a huge battle between tons of players.
What those ads don't show you is the drops, and the slide show, and frustrated gamers who lost their ship because they could not activate their modules... THAT is eve-online.


And until the company starts living up to the marketing that they create, this game will be broken.

That's all I was saying.


SirSpectre
Gallente
Harbingers Of Destruction
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:40:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: BhallSpawn
Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:38:37
no.. you guys don't get it

I'm saying that motherships, titans, ambulation, factional warfare, 2 or 3 expansions and loads of other content isn't what this game needs.

This game needs whoever puts the money into the content developers hands, that guy needs to be fired.

I've been in this game almost 3 years now.... and I've seen the connectivity issue and lag issue addressed once.

This game markets itself on fleet vs fleet warfare... Look at the banner on the home page of eve... I don't see small gangs on that banner. Nor do I see them anywhere else on the net. Everywhere you see a eve-online ad its marketed as a huge battle between tons of players.
What those ads don't show you is the drops, and the slide show, and frustrated gamers who lost their ship because they could not activate their modules... THAT is eve-online.


And until the company starts living up to the marketing that they create, this game will be broken.

That's all I was saying.




So then why are you complaining in a thread about connection issues? Go make your own thread else where.

BhallSpawn
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:41:00 - [36]
 

You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?

I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.

And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:46:00 - [37]
 

Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 14 ms 8 ms 9 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms gig2-3.dytnoh2-ybr1.woh.rr.com [24.29.160.133]
4 12 ms 7 ms 9 ms srp13-1.dytnoh1-rtr1.woh.rr.com [24.29.160.43]
5 21 ms 21 ms 19 ms son0-0-3.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com [65.25.128
.241]
6 32 ms 27 ms 30 ms ae-4-0.cr0.chi30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.68]
7 50 ms 25 ms 26 ms ae-1-0.pr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.155]
8 29 ms 27 ms 28 ms tge2-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [68.142.72.221]
9 26 ms 27 ms 24 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
10 51 ms 39 ms 43 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
11 * 113 ms 119 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
12 111 ms 120 ms 110 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
13 116 ms 111 ms 111 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
14 120 ms 116 ms 110 ms 87.237.39.199

Trace complete.

BobbyCarter
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:51:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: BhallSpawn
You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?

I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.

And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.


I won't say anything about your connection or computer, but I will say that my first and only drops have occured today. Been playing for ny a year now. I've never dropped, even in Jita with 700+ people, although I'll admit that lag is evident there.

If you're upset about the direction EVE is taking, this is not the place to do it. Not only is it off-topic, it's very unlikely to be given it's due credence because higher powers will attribute it to dissatifaction about the current situation, which it clearly isn't.

Make a thread if you're that upset about it. Personally I love the way EVE is going, but I suppose a more stable network code could help for the largest corporate wars.

Norwest
Quafe Company Logistics
Posted - 2008.06.20 02:52:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: BhallSpawn
You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?

I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.

And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.



I hate to feed to troll, but what internet are you on?

On every game I've ever played online, from Starcraft to counterstrike to Team fortress to EVE, disconnects are a reality, and something to be lived with. The problem isn't on CCP's end, it's the data getting lost on the way there and back.

On topic, my friends who play Second Life, WoW and City of Heroes are reporting much the same issues as being voiced here.

Letouk Mernel
Caldari
Posted - 2008.06.20 03:06:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: BhallSpawn
I've been in this game almost 3 years now.... and I've seen the connectivity issue and lag issue addressed once.


They've addressed it more than once. You must have missed all the news about hardware upgrades, Need for Speed, Infiniband, optimization patches, and all the other stuff they've done.

You've been in the game 3 years... 50 vs. 50 used to be almost impossible 3 years ago, now we have 200 vs. 200.

You have unrealistic expectations about everything that CCP doesn't have control over, and claiming that they should "fix" it. CPU's can only do so many ops per second, internet can only handle so much bandwidth, databases can only hold so many terabytes of data... what do you want?

From all the news and even screenshots of their data centers, they're pushing the cutting edge of computer technology to bring you this speed you want, and they're doing it with 250k accounts at still only $15 per month. Open your eyes and realize that what you're asking for is impossible. And quit, if the lag is oh so unbearable.

BhallSpawn
Posted - 2008.06.20 03:19:00 - [41]
 

Fine, if they are doing all they can to fix the problem, which I don't think they are... then lets see some advertisements of actual in-game footage of fleet warfare?

And to answer your question, the footage they use for trailers and ad's is not in-game.

why do you think that is??

Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
Posted - 2008.06.20 03:22:00 - [42]
 

SW Florida seems fine. I haven't dropped once.

I know people from Texas and West Australia that are dropping constantly though.

Lafine Zifer
Cskillzone
DAMAGE INC...
Posted - 2008.06.20 03:25:00 - [43]
 

im in ozy as well, and ive got this toon ctd heaps in last 24 hours, but my main has no probs, other than lag spikes at same time, same pc, 2 difrent clients
no rant here, just intell Wink

CCP Mitnal


C C P
Posted - 2008.06.20 03:32:00 - [44]
 

Updated.

Batwigg
Minmatar
B and D
Posted - 2008.06.20 03:59:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: BhallSpawn
You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?

I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.

And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.



It IS your connection.

The last time I got dropped from the game was late 2007.

BhallSpawn
Posted - 2008.06.20 04:12:00 - [46]
 

Gee, seems like I'm not the only one
Is it all our connection?
Is everyone who's gotten dropped, is it always their fault?

I think not.

Shar Tegral
Posted - 2008.06.20 05:20:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: BhallSpawn
Gee, seems like I'm not the only one
Yes, you are the only idiot in view at the moment.
Originally by: BhallSpawn
I not think not.

Corrected your statement to fit with reality as you refuse to see it.

As someone said, you seem to have issues with CCP. Take it up with them in an appropriate manner. In this thread here people are looking for information on their internet woes. Not listen to your woes over the internet.

PS: Psychiatrist or hooker, don't care who you pay, one or the other might help you with your problem.

CaldariSlave
Posted - 2008.06.20 13:15:00 - [48]
 

Will CCP be reimbursing lost assets related to this connectivity problem?

Alot of players, myself included, lost some valuable stuff to this and it really sucks.

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2008.06.20 13:43:00 - [49]
 

These issues appear to be cleared up. If this is incorrect, please make sure you post about it to let us know.

Haywoode Jablome
Wormhole supervisory and Investigation team
Blanket Men
Posted - 2008.06.20 13:49:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Haywoode Jablome on 20/06/2008 13:53:44
nvm, PC problem...

Ashley Sky
The Eleventh Commandment
Posted - 2008.06.20 14:36:00 - [51]
 

I think the problem here is the centralization of data servers.

I think this could be solved by having an EVE proxy service inside several major ISPs with a fast backbone to the main hub, and have the client do a QOS check to see which proxy is the quickest.

If you have ISP issues that go on long enough, you could then switch the direction of your proxy servers, fire up your disaster recovery site, and do a data merge when your ISP service is restored.

Isn't that what the 60 minutes of downtime per day is useful for?

Madla Mafia
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.06.20 15:05:00 - [52]
 

All I know is that my internet in general, MSN Messenger, and all other internet dependent programs are working fine, except for Eve. Eve is disconnecting me about every 3-5 minutes. All the time!

Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
Posted - 2008.06.20 18:33:00 - [53]
 

It's doing it again. Savvis is down across the board again. I'm having intermittent connectivity issues to CCP's servers.


Saciol
Posted - 2008.06.20 18:47:00 - [54]
 

I started having a lot of dc's since 14h eastern time. Before that, all was working 100%. Now, I can barely stay on Eve for 10 minutes. Problem not solved :(

Goremageddon Box
Posted - 2008.06.20 18:52:00 - [55]
 

It's happening again.

Was good yesterday after 7ish for awhile.

Meh. Time Warner Cable here.


Question, to those being D/C.

do you run Vent?

Thrawnfl
Posted - 2008.06.20 18:58:00 - [56]
 

still being disconnected alot, i've disconnected 9 times in the last 20 minutes.

my provider is Time Warner Cable

Davich MacGregor
Minmatar
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
Posted - 2008.06.20 18:59:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Davich MacGregor on 20/06/2008 18:59:43
Originally by: Goremageddon Box
It's happening again.

Was good yesterday after 7ish for awhile.

Meh. Time Warner Cable here.


Question, to those being D/C.

do you run Vent?


Disconnected third time in five minutes >:(
Yes, vent installed but not running. When I did have it running i wasn't disconnected. I don't think vent is the issue.
No Time Warner either.

Rhibhinn
Gallente
Posted - 2008.06.20 19:03:00 - [58]
 

Disconnected twice in 20 mins.
Not running Vent, TS or anything like that.
AT&T is the ISP.
I have a second connection to a server in New Jersey (from Missourri) that will drop just as easily as EVE and it is still running.
I would suspect it is a transatlantic issue, or a UK issue.
Ruf.

Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
Posted - 2008.06.20 19:04:00 - [59]
 

It's not vent, it's not what's running or not running on your box. It's a peering issue with major carriers. They've been having issues with this for over 24 hours now. They appeared to fix it late yesterday but the issue has returned. A number of sprint interconnects are also starting to drop out.

I'd suggest doing something else for the rest of the day as you all are well aware of the fact that DCing makes playing next to impossible.


Kyguard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.20 19:06:00 - [60]
 

Getting DC'd a lot, I'm using Rogers Cable (AT&T)


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