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Bad Borris
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.06.16 17:10:00 - [61]
 

dude should quit eve an get a job.

Popsikle
Minmatar
Caffeine Commodities Company
Posted - 2008.06.16 17:35:00 - [62]
 

uh.

Its double the cost + $0.085 [USD] per day) for double the time...

So you need to save one dime a day more....


Am I missing something here or is the $2.50 [USD] a month really that drastic of an increase?


Bish Ounen
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cult of War
Posted - 2008.06.16 17:36:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Bish Ounen on 16/06/2008 17:36:41
Originally by: MJ Maverick

If your lucky enough to live somewhere where you can go to college and have a job then good for you.


I've been where you are. In college, mostly broke, trying to buy books and still afford food, etc etc etc. I know, I've been there.

However, when you say that there are NO part-time jobs where you are, I think you are being a little dishonest. I suspect that what you REALLY mean is that there are no part-time jobs that you want in your area.

Let's face it, there is ALWAYS work for those who are willing and able. I have a very hard time believing that there are no Petrol stations that need night attendants, no gardeners that need strong, young backs and arms to help out, no garbage collectors that need the same. And if there is nobody willing to hire you, then go into business for yourself. Pick up a crappy old lawnmower and start mowing lawns. Walk the dogs of rich people, babysit. There are ALWAYS ways of making money, even if it's only a little.

The point is, don't think so highly of yourself that you think you are above any work. Living on the dole is for losers and people with no REAL options. If you are young, able, reasonably strong, and smart enough to attend college then your options and opportunities are limited only by your imagination and willingness to work.

Now get going! Wink

My Julutschka
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.06.16 18:02:00 - [64]
 

this sums it up pretty well i think !

Xparky
The Scope
Posted - 2008.06.16 18:21:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: Xparky on 16/06/2008 18:28:22
Originally by: Popsikle
uh.

Its double the cost + $0.085 [USD] per day) for double the time...

So you need to save one dime a day more....


Am I missing something here or is the $2.50 [USD] a month really that drastic of an increase?




Nope, it's 8 cents and a half more, per day. If you use GTCs.

It's the old price if you pay by cash or debit card. 14.95/month, and you can pay monthly.

The OP is just trolling, he can pay 14.95/month through money orders. Just go to a post office.

Bleeshtar
Posted - 2008.06.16 18:46:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Xparky
The OP is just trolling, he can pay 14.95/month through money orders. Just go to a post office.



Money orders arent free either.

But yea much to do about nothing. Just get a frikin credit card.

Xparky
The Scope
Posted - 2008.06.16 18:50:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Bleeshtar
Originally by: Xparky
The OP is just trolling, he can pay 14.95/month through money orders. Just go to a post office.



Money orders arent free either.

But yea much to do about nothing. Just get a frikin credit card.


Didn't know you have to pay for money orders. But I sure know you don't have to pay for DEBIT cards, here where I live it's free to open one, no obligatory first deposit no nothing. Just a really small annual charge.

Callun
Gallente
Stone Age Dentists
Posted - 2008.06.16 19:45:00 - [68]
 

Do what my kids do.....ask their mum for money.Very Happy
They stopped asking me ages ago.Very HappyVery Happy

Lord Evangelian
Gallente
The White Mantle
Malum Exuro
Posted - 2008.06.17 07:51:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: MJ Maverick
Edited by: MJ Maverick on 16/06/2008 13:19:42
Edited by: MJ Maverick on 16/06/2008 13:16:32
Ignoring the replies that don't deserve reading.

If your lucky enough to live somewhere where you can go to college and have a job then good for you. (No that's not sarcasm)

However believe it or not some places like where I live only have full time available. Something I can not do. If you can't use the common sense to realise that then again, I cba to spend the effort to read your post.

If your bank account went constantly bouncing up and down from the 0 mark then you wouldn't link it to your account either which is why I have to use GTCs.Sad Furb Killer lol I know but come on... Everyone has to have something fun to do with mates online.

As for credit cards... Where do I start... Really, what a stupid thing to say to someone with no money.

Can't use isk either really which is a shame. Even with my industrial mining Ice 24/7 400mil is a struggle... but 800mil... Not a chance I can pull that off Sad

Thank you to the sensible and none sadistic replies.


Im currently a student studying in the UK (Im guessing that where your from), and I have a student loan, My loan doesnt even cover acomedation, and I have a job that barly covers it, so what I do I buy 3 months for EVE in advance so I know that its covered.

That way I know I have a cheaper option of spening 60 pounds on 2 acoutns in eve over 3 months, or spending that in a night out on the the drink up with friends. I know the later sounds mor fun, but in the end what is it worth, and is it worth the expense...


DOnt wory about it, it will work it self out, trst me I know it will...

Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Navigators of the Abyss
Posted - 2008.06.17 08:26:00 - [70]
 

Ouch dude, I feel for yah.

If I were you, training a long lvl 5 and saving up for the 60 day card sounds like the way to go.

You can ALWAYS play trial accounts to have some fun in the mean time.

The test server should also have your account until the next mirror.

Good Luck!

Red Dhalia
Posted - 2008.06.17 08:42:00 - [71]
 

Dunno how this would work n the UK but I know a guy in the states who has a wife that won't let him take one dime from the regular income to play a game... here is what he does... and he has little time to farm for isk.

He got a no charge checking debit card first. Then he started selling blood once a week. Put the money... think he said it was 10-20 bucks US... in the account. Use the debit card to pay long term.

I know it sounds a bit lame... did to me at least... but now he plays and it adds up enuff he only pays in blood (literally) once n awhile now.Laughing

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2008.06.17 08:45:00 - [72]
 

He donated blood once per week? If it were normal ammounts for blood donations he would now be dead.

Neddy Fox
Gallente
FireStar Inc
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.17 09:06:00 - [73]
 

MJ, getting GTC's with some hours of missioning should sort your problem.

And as other stated : I think you're dishounest about "no jobs". When I was 17 I shoveled cow**** for 5 hours / week, and made 40 pound in those 5 hours, netting me 150-160 pounds a month. There are always jobs.

And no, there won't be many like you, since they all found a way (work) to make it possible to game/go out.

We did an enquete last year on the highschool I work on, and 65% of the students have evening/saturday jobs, and we live in a very rural area.

You're too picky/easy.


ZinderX500
Caldari
Very Predictable Feedback
Posted - 2008.06.17 09:09:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Red Dhalia
Dunno how this would work n the UK but I know a guy in the states who has a wife that won't let him take one dime from the regular income to play a game... here is what he does... and he has little time to farm for isk.

He got a no charge checking debit card first. Then he started selling blood once a week. Put the money... think he said it was 10-20 bucks US... in the account. Use the debit card to pay long term.

I know it sounds a bit lame... did to me at least... but now he plays and it adds up enuff he only pays in blood (literally) once n awhile now.Laughing


Here , you don't get any money when you donate blood or anything else Crying or Very sadEmbarassed


Originally by: Furb Killer
He donated blood once per week? If it were normal ammounts for blood donations he would now be dead.


Yeah , what the hell..LaughingLaughing


His wife fails btw.

Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
Posted - 2008.06.17 09:23:00 - [75]
 

LMAO @ selling blood to play eve. That ought to be reserved for substance abuse tbh. ugh

If the problem is just the timing and you can afford the rate increase, here's what you do:

1. Let your account lapse for a month, put the money you would've spent on eve in a shoebox.

2. The next month, put the eve money in the same shoebox. Well lookie thar, you got 2 months' eve money. How'd you do that? Go buy 60 days.

3. Next month when you would've paid your bill again, stick it in the shoebox.

4. GOTO 2



Or quit in protest, up to you.

deadmaus
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.06.17 09:36:00 - [76]
 

Jesus christ...how lucky are we can that we CAN pay with isk! A game that pays for itself from the fun you have..and people are complaining?

Toughen up for gods sake.Some of you don't know you are alive.

Jabezhane
Posted - 2008.06.17 10:17:00 - [77]
 

Up until recently I was an IT Consultant for a bluechip company. Situations changed for me and I'm now looking for some late night shelf stacking jobs to keep the cash coming in and to keep me busy. Its money in the bank and it pays the bills.

Young folks today have a very odd attitude to money/wants and needs. I was watching a TV documantary about a young 19 year old girl who had a 15 month old daughter and was also studying for a degree. She was struggling to make ends meet so decided to do pole-dancing and lap-dancing. She stated catagorically that working in a supermarket just wasnt enough.
Anyway they follow her off to the stripclub and she does her 4-5 stint till the early hours. They then ask her how much she made. After paying the club 85 to dance and then the clubs cut of her takings she had made 15 for 5 hours work!!!!

Supermarket doesnt cut it eh?

To be honest whilst you may feel the whole world is against you, if I was in your shoes and on 30 a week, not being able to play Eve would be about item number 95 on my list of priorities to sort out ASAP.

Sit down, have a good long think about what is really important and necessary and make a plan.

Trust me. Eve is NOT necessary for you right now.

Originally by: Bish Ounen
Edited by: Bish Ounen on 16/06/2008 17:36:41
Originally by: MJ Maverick

If your lucky enough to live somewhere where you can go to college and have a job then good for you.


I've been where you are. In college, mostly broke, trying to buy books and still afford food, etc etc etc. I know, I've been there.

However, when you say that there are NO part-time jobs where you are, I think you are being a little dishonest. I suspect that what you REALLY mean is that there are no part-time jobs that you want in your area.

Let's face it, there is ALWAYS work for those who are willing and able. I have a very hard time believing that there are no Petrol stations that need night attendants, no gardeners that need strong, young backs and arms to help out, no garbage collectors that need the same. And if there is nobody willing to hire you, then go into business for yourself. Pick up a crappy old lawnmower and start mowing lawns. Walk the dogs of rich people, babysit. There are ALWAYS ways of making money, even if it's only a little.

The point is, don't think so highly of yourself that you think you are above any work. Living on the dole is for losers and people with no REAL options. If you are young, able, reasonably strong, and smart enough to attend college then your options and opportunities are limited only by your imagination and willingness to work.

Now get going! Wink

nahtoh
Caldari
Brotherhood of The Saltire
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2008.06.17 10:20:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: MJ Maverick
From post 43 onwards all common sense has gone out of the window, the inability to read is obvious and it appears all people with an IQ in excess of 14 have left this thread.


Looks like someone was right. *gives Rekindle a cookie*
Originally by: Rekindle
I too think it was a bad move to go to the 60day cards. What I find more disturbing is the insulting nature of this community.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you have two accounts then its more money up front, a little over double by my math. Sure you get a month where you dont have to pay but is that the point?

I would say however, that you may have to go elsewhere to have a constructive conversation. People will have lots of highly opinioniated options and suggestions for you :)



Splash plastic and pay by cash...its how i played when money was tight, or as someone else mentioned a prepaid credit card...theres your easy options...


If you don't take those options then I will agree with the majorty posting...

WA Dragon
Caldari
108 Field Squadron RM RE
Posted - 2008.06.17 10:25:00 - [79]
 

FACT! LIFES A ***** AND THEN YOU DIE.


even if your in a wheel chair you can get a job.

EVE is = to gaming ******.

Huurtney Gurdsen
Posted - 2008.06.17 11:05:00 - [80]
 

CAN I HAS UR STUF ? CAN I HAS UR STUF ? CAN I HAS UR STUF ? CAN I HAS UR STUF ?

hedfunk
Caldari
Posted - 2008.06.18 12:46:00 - [81]
 

If there's a college, there will be jobs around. So don't talk crap. They don't build colleges in the middle of nowhere?

OP, would you mind telling us the area you live? I live in a small city up north, 80k people, and jobs are out there for anyone who wants them. WANT being the key word, sounds like you're just being lazy.

I worked a paperound for 12quid a week, that ALONE could pay your sub, are there no newsagents near you? My first proper job was as a waiter for 3.50 an hour. It's ****, and low pay, but it was pay none the less.

I don't receive any EMA, never have; it annoys me that people get money just for going to school, where as others get nothing; just because my parents get x amount of money sure as hell doesn't mean I see any of it, but that's another rant!

Get a job. It isn't hard, really.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.06.18 13:12:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 18/06/2008 13:13:08
Am I exceptionally stupid, when I think the post does not make mathematical sense at all?

Two months game time cost X pounds. Dude's only got X/2 pounds a month to spend. Dude saves for two months, he's got 2*X/2 = X pounds. Dude buys two months game time. During those two months, he can save up to buy other two months. No?

And that's assuming you don't even get any discount for buying two months instead of one, at a time.

Sure, there's gonna be a break till he gets the savings up enough. Such is the life of people with low income; you have to plan ahead. Or get a loan from your friends to get started. :)


Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2008.06.18 13:15:00 - [83]
 

so dip into your account every 3rd month, play for 2, and get free skill training time for 1 Very Happy

or buy a gtc with money every 2 months, and one for isk every 2 months.

Jawas
Gallente
Posted - 2008.06.18 13:39:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Ordon Gundar
So is this what MY tax money is going towards?

Get a job FFS!

Evil or Very Mad

You don't know the cicumstances. He/she may be a student trying to get qualifications to get one or a single parent who can't afford childcare costs on a minimum wage. Please engage brain before putting anything else in motion, not everyone is on benefits out of choice. Frankly, minimum wage is far too low and those on it would often be better off financially by being out of work.

Jack Rowanburn
V I R I I
Cult of War
Posted - 2008.06.18 13:57:00 - [85]
 

Jesus, I cannot believe there is sympathy here??

I guess I'm one of the few that finds this laughable. Go get a job. Stack shelves, sweep the street, I don't care. How come people who want to work find jobs (Even part time ones) easily, yet those that want to be slackers sit around complaining "oh it's so hard, give me handouts"

I went to college to learn stuff, not cos the Government was paying me to go so that they can massage the unemployment figures.

I think you need to look at prioritising matey, that's what you have to do in the real world, though I guess you'll go straight from EMA to Jobseekers by the sound of it.

I go to work every day of the week, I have a family to support and my taxes go to support whiney tossers who can't be arsed to try. Makes my blood boil.

Benilopax
Gallente
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
Posted - 2008.06.18 14:36:00 - [86]
 

Steady on everyone this is fast becoming a political discussion.

Lets stick to advice not the "I pay good money to support poor people" argument which is completely wrong in my veiw, and also not for this forum.

Ikki Phoenix
Gallente
United Imperial Fleet
Posted - 2008.06.18 15:31:00 - [87]
 

I know how MJM is feeling.
Two-three years ago,I was myself in deep financial trouble.
Anyway,I played Eve for a bit then had to quit because of money and such.
Then when I finally came back to Eve this past January,I found the solution.I now buy a 3 month subscription

Rastadeen
Minmatar
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.18 15:50:00 - [88]
 

Collect bottles, turn em in. Play eve every second month.. Sit on street with a sign that say "need eve fix 10 plx"..

Well some of the things you could do if you really wanna play this game. Or hey.. run missions/rat whatever to make some isk and buy a GTC on this very same forum.

If you cant do any RL work, or any ingame work... im sorry to say... you wont be getting welfare ingame...

Jack Rowanburn
V I R I I
Cult of War
Posted - 2008.06.18 15:52:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: Jack Rowanburn on 18/06/2008 15:53:36
Originally by: Benilopax
Steady on everyone this is fast becoming a political discussion.

Lets stick to advice not the "I pay good money to support poor people" argument which is completely wrong in my veiw, and also not for this forum.


I apologise if I've offended, but amidst the rant was a point - Prioritise. I'm sorry if people can't afford to play this game but in a contest between eating and playing internet spaceships, er, eating wins.

The reason I got so irritated is the hard done by attitude - "Oh I only get 30 a week" (which is the usual EMA amount and why people assumed that) or "I don't get paid if I'm off" (hey, guess what, neither do I!) - and I'll admit that it is partially because in my day (I feel dirty now - I'm not that old) we went to college to learn, not to get paid, if we wanted money there was no choice, get a job.

Another point I worth noting is that this change isn't coming in to cost people more money, it's coming in to stop europeans basically scamming the ****ty exchange rate to the dollar.

Edit: And to bring GTC in line with the CC subs.

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2008.06.18 16:24:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Ordon Gundar
So is this what MY tax money is going towards?

Get a job FFS!

Evil or Very Mad



Hahahahahaha

Damn right



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