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Cap II
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 05:58:00 - [1]
 

I find it very troubling that the head of the organization designed to bring player concerns to CCP cannot seem to communicate in a manner that does not involve a giant wall of text. Clear and concise communication is not too much to expect from someone in such a position.

Therefore I propose a 50 word limit on any response or proposal Jade Constantine gives on a particular subject be it to members of the community, CSM members, or CCP.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.06.12 06:02:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 12/06/2008 06:02:55
How about I give you the finger

...and you give me my 4000 characters?

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Fallorn
Deep Core Mining Inc.

Posted - 2008.06.12 06:06:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Fallorn on 12/06/2008 06:06:15
How many post has Jade written today on the combined forums he visits and how many characters has he used? I'm going to guess well over 100k That is in one day no one should have to read through his WALL OF TEXT that say nothing.

Jasharin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.12 06:11:00 - [4]
 

i guess i support this. as you can see i have the required thumbs up

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.06.12 06:13:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Fallorn
Edited by: Fallorn on 12/06/2008 06:06:15
How many post has Jade written today on the combined forums he visits and how many characters has he used? I'm going to guess well over 100k That is in one day no one should have to read through his WALL OF TEXT that say nothing.


Amazingly enough, I think you've gotten your wish - nobody does have to read it. I'd be hard-pressed to think of a more pathetic request than someone sitting in an Internet forum complaining about there being too many words. If you don't like it this way, 4chan isn't exactly hard to find.

Cap II
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 06:21:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Fallorn
Edited by: Fallorn on 12/06/2008 06:06:15
How many post has Jade written today on the combined forums he visits and how many characters has he used? I'm going to guess well over 100k That is in one day no one should have to read through his WALL OF TEXT that say nothing.


Amazingly enough, I think you've gotten your wish - nobody does have to read it. I'd be hard-pressed to think of a more pathetic request than someone sitting in an Internet forum complaining about there being too many words. If you don't like it this way, 4chan isn't exactly hard to find.


Clearly you have misread my post kind sir. My concern is that the chair of the CSM and ultimately our voice cannot make to the point statements on seemingly anything. He will have to communicate things to CCP. CCP being made up of various Producers, Programmers, QA staff of course cannot be required to read 500 words when 50 will do just fine.

Malfournis
Gallente
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2008.06.12 06:27:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Malfournis on 12/06/2008 06:38:33
/me adds his signature, and why not?

It could only benefit the head-chair-person-thingie-whatever-you-wish-to-call-them, that they have one duty, and one only- to keep things in order. Doing so shouldn't require a huge wall of text that makes everybody groan to see. This would enforce that as a reminder that this is their duty, in a continuous manner.

Gorion Wassenar
Caldari
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.06.12 07:15:00 - [8]
 

The total absurdity of this suggestion should tell you everything about this "issue" and its supporters.

Fallorn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.12 07:25:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Fallorn on 12/06/2008 07:25:04
Originally by: Gorion Wassenar
The total absurdity of the smirk on my characters face should tell you everything about this "Gorion Wassenar" and being pompous.


I just hit random for my character.

sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.06.12 07:33:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Cap II
I find it very troubling that the head of the organization designed to bring player concerns to CCP cannot seem to communicate in a manner that does not involve a giant wall of text. Clear and concise communication is not too much to expect from someone in such a position.

Therefore I propose a 50 word limit on any response or proposal Jade Constantine gives on a particular subject be it to members of the community, CSM members, or CCP.


So you seem to think that you are being forced to read all that text?. I am sure if he just gave bullet points that you would complain that he was not being descriptive enough.

The real issue is you.

Fallorn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.12 07:43:00 - [11]
 

Not really bullet points work for me.

Gorion Wassenar
Caldari
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.06.12 08:03:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Fallorn


I just hit random for my character.


They have implants to fix that you know.


Now if you can come up with an actual reason other than your own laziness for why you should be accommodated please do.

Siresa Talesi
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.06.12 16:45:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Siresa Talesi on 12/06/2008 16:45:57
Any chance we can get a moratorium on moronic, time-wasting, so-called "issues" like this?

Didn't think so.

Oh well, I guess it's too much to expect the vaunted maturity of the EVE playerbase to spend it's time on issues that actually matter. I thought the petty WoW-like squabbling was supposed to be beneath us.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.06.12 16:53:00 - [14]
 


How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall?


Cap II
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 17:04:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Cap II on 12/06/2008 17:05:58
Unfortunately such a rule would be exploited by those dishonorable people willing to corp hop in order to post! Further, my proposal would force the chair to "tl;dr" as it were, not so that I don't have to read it, but so that the poor souls at CCP are not forced to endure such vicious onslaughts of verbal and text based diarrhea.

My point is that walls of text are in no way helpful in the real world, nor do professionals communicate in this manner. If we the people of this game and this psuedo-government are to have any success we need to ensure that the chairman is able to communicate in a professional and realistic manner.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerly,

Cap II
Honourable Space Captain
Goonfleet
Goonswarm

Vinata
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 17:07:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Vinata on 12/06/2008 17:08:38
Edited by: Vinata on 12/06/2008 17:07:39
Originally by: Jade Constantine

How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall?



I think we could make a fair compromise by making that post limit into a character limit. Each alliance would have a maximum amount of characters they could use in any one posting day here. Maybe we should have it scale to the size of an alliance?

Toffles
Pod'em All
Not Found.
Posted - 2008.06.12 17:14:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall?




A fair system would probably be to base it on alliance size. I'll never understand why you seem so surprised that a 5,100 person alliance posts more than your 164 person alliance.

Talkuth Rel
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.06.12 17:38:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Vinata
Edited by: Vinata on 12/06/2008 17:08:38
Edited by: Vinata on 12/06/2008 17:07:39
Originally by: Jade Constantine

How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall?



I think we could make a fair compromise by making that post limit into a character limit. Each alliance would have a maximum amount of characters they could use in any one posting day here. Maybe we should have it scale to the size of an alliance?


Bad idea, we'd never hear anything from anyone else in Jade's alliance Wink

Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2008.06.12 19:06:00 - [19]
 

No support.

The OP couldn't even frame his ridiculous proposal in 50 words or less.

Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2008.06.12 19:14:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Cap II
I find it very troubling that the head of the organization designed to bring player concerns to CCP cannot seem to communicate in a manner that does not involve a giant wall of text. Clear and concise communication is not too much to expect from someone in such a position.

Therefore I propose a 50 word limit on any response or proposal Jade Constantine gives on a particular subject be it to members of the community, CSM members, or CCP.


And an eight word limit to any response! Rolling Eyes

AKTwisted Evil

Deldrac
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 19:47:00 - [21]
 

You guys need to realise that the CSM is all about the comedy.

Jade's role as bat**** insane chairman is an essential part of the show.

Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
Posted - 2008.06.12 20:16:00 - [22]
 

Simple way would be to just ask the likes of the CSM council to, reply to topics in a clear and precise mannor without adding a load of bull****. The last thing we need is walls of text when the same post could be made in one paragraph making it easy and a pleasure to read.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.06.12 20:30:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine
How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall?


You see that? Yeah, that's the moral high ground, disappearing into the distance behind you.

Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
Posted - 2008.06.12 21:08:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Che Biko on 12/06/2008 21:08:40
Post 1: 51+ words, somehow not clearly communicating the point, why else write:
Post 6: 51+ words, somehow not clearly communicating the point, why else write:
Post 15: 100+ words. to be continued...?
Clearly it is impossible to clearly communicate certain things in 50 words.

But my main point is that this kind of 'advise' should be given directly to the person in question. This is hardly an 'issue' for the CSM.

Sabrina Al'Kian
Posted - 2008.06.12 21:17:00 - [25]
 

I can only assume you're making a bad joke. Jade may not be concise, but at least he's thorough; there isn't really any way to misinterpret his posts. If a topic requires a less-than-fifty-word response, it probably isn't worth debating, is it?

Also, these are issues we're supposed to be "voting on" so that they can be taken to CCP; why the hell would this ever make it out of the assembly hall?

Greyhair
Posted - 2008.06.18 19:11:00 - [26]
 


Zaran Darkstar
Divine Slaves
Posted - 2008.06.18 19:15:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Cap II
I find it very troubling that the head of the organization designed to bring player concerns to CCP cannot seem to communicate in a manner that does not involve a giant wall of text. Clear and concise communication is not too much to expect from someone in such a position.

Therefore I propose a 50 word limit on any response or proposal Jade Constantine gives on a particular subject be it to members of the community, CSM members, or CCP.



LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

Superb troll post! Keep it up!


 

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