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Dreez
Destructive Influence
Posted - 2008.06.11 23:50:00 - [1]
 


Before i deactivate my account, i thought i'd share my opinion
on issues that needs to be sorted out. Things that imo are
ruining alot in EvE, things that still makes me wonder why i
subscribe.

Cloaks
Claking modules needs to only be able to be mounted on
ships specifically designed for covert warfare. No capital,
no hacs, nothing, except covert op ships.

CTRL+Q
Saving your ass on a hostile jumpin by using this lame crap,
escaping bubbles and any possible agro timer needs to be
removed from the game. There is nothing more pathetic and
nothing that makes me more ****ed of then to see a hostile
gang jumping into your camp and pulling this chicken**** manuver
to save their skin.

Speed
I'm all for speed.. ON INTERCEPTORS.
Cruisers and battleships reaching insane speeds needs to
be sorted out asap. I dont care if you set your cruiser or
battleship up with multibilion mods and snakes.

Right now we got ceptors going 80km/s, even thats insane
and needs to be sorted, the speedthing is getting out of hand.

Closerange combat & Lag
Seriosly.. this is something i haven't experienced in
the last 3 years, not once. Closerange combatship are totally
useless unless they can move fast as a ceptor.
Who is their right mind even uses blaster/AC/pulse in a
fight of 20v20 ?. Me myself are 100% skilled towards
blasters, but i never get to use them because once you're in
range of the damn target, they're dead already.

- - - - - - - - - -

Personally i belive EvE is going down the drain atm.
All we see is POS warfare or blobbing. And what about
oveurs talk about promote roaming gangs and make blobbing
less usefull ?. Empty words. This last year i've seen
more veteran EvEplayers leave this game out of boredom, sick
of CCP's inability to adjust EvE after the population and
fix the issues that needs to be fixed.

I have played EvE since beta, and i can honestly say that
this game has gotten alot less fun to play.

Zeknichov
Life. Universe. Everything.
Posted - 2008.06.11 23:56:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Zeknichov on 12/06/2008 00:01:27
Agreed with everything including the part that EVE is going along the wrong path. FW? LOL no.

Demarcus
Killjoy.
Posted - 2008.06.11 23:56:00 - [3]
 

I agree on speed, the rest is rubbish.

Demarcus
Killjoy.
Posted - 2008.06.11 23:58:00 - [4]
 

To be honest, speed has completely ruined EvE, the first time I saw a battleship do over 12k a second I new PvP was ruined for a long time.

DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.11 23:59:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: DubanFP on 12/06/2008 01:34:17
Don't let the hamster bite you on the way out! I would ask for your stuff, but if i'm not mistaken Dice is communistic isn't it?

AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
Druuge Crimson Corporation
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:02:00 - [6]
 

*Reads OP*

Yeah that pretty much covers the reasons why I opted out of the current 0.0 sillyness shortly after getting active in the game again.

Dallas23
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:07:00 - [7]
 

Can I have your stuff before you quit?

DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:07:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Dallas23
Can I have your stuff before you quit?

read my response

Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:11:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Dreez
All we see is POS warfare or blobbing.

GTFOOB: Get the f out of BoB!

Isabel thorn
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:12:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Isabel thorn on 12/06/2008 00:13:25
I agree whole heartly with cloaking the only ships that should be able to use them are covert ops recons and haulers. Yes haulers coz eve has shunted logistics for a very long time.

contrl+Q is lame and needs to be fixed as its pretty exploited atm.

You dont use blasters coz of your gang mentality. a small romaing gang for you is 30. get in a sub 10 gang where your ship actually means soemthing to a fight where it can turn the tide of the fight and have alot more fun. Otherwise its still blobbing even if you dont think it is. ppl blob coz they thik eveyones in a nanoship and its one of the only ways to try and ensure at least a kill before they just bug out.

Other then that eve has its flaws how bout fixing some lag if ppl wanted empire warefare they would go join a empire war corp. They have the option to leave a corp anytime they wish aswell same with factional warefare. FW was such a big waste of manpower coz no one wanted it. not PVPers and not PVErs.

For the record CCp stop changng my freeking colour settings with every patch its so damn annoying!!!!!! I dont want ur baby poo colour and neither does the next guy....

Edit: spelling

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:15:00 - [11]
 

TBH, most of what you're complaining about is symptomatic of 0.0 warfare. Have you considered joining a pirate corp?

-Liang

IHaveTenFingers
Caldari
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:15:00 - [12]
 

I agree with your first 2 points. *moderated*

Speed? Theres simple counters to it, and its not "always bring a rapier."
Most nano users are flying Minmatar, the race intended for speed. A well balanced gang is likely to be packing a couple boats with tracking disruptors, which will screw almost any minmatar ship. Some people enjoy Nanos on their cerberuses. Cerbs fit with nano are still slower than other nano ships and hit like girls unless HAM fit. A quick Zap with a neutralizer and a few laser pewpews will get rid of him. Ishtars pose a problem, but they are very fragile nano ships, so a couple lucky hits can kill them or send them running with ease. Keep in mind they have targetable weapons systems. If all else fails, every gang SHOULD be packing a rapier or at least a hyena.

Closerange? Used to be one of those blood-pumping things very commonly found in lowsec. In 0.0 fleet fights you dont see a lot of it, especially on the BS level. The good ol days of lowsec pirates and lowsec anti-pirates are over, highsec is more profitable, and as such, a good 20v20 close range tank vs tank battle is hard to find, especially when talking about BSes. In this case, its not necessarily tactics that have ruined the slow close range ships. This is something CCP can work on.

Lag? Only lag i have been experiencing lately is caused by my terrible new ISP. I've been in quite a few large battles in the past couple months and the lag isnt all that bad anymore. Jita is, and always will be, a hellhole of epic propotions (I am currently stuck there) but it doesnt really count when looking at the overall lag situation on the cluster.

Apoctasy
Lethal Injection.
Hedonistic Imperative
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:15:00 - [13]
 

I agree with just about everything besides the close range issue.

Oh and cloaks only on cloaker-designed ships ftw.

Jack Jombardo
Amarr
Cosmic Allianz
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:35:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Isabel thorn
I agree whole heartly with cloaking the only ships that should be able to use them are covert ops recons and haulers. Yes haulers coz eve has shunted logistics for a very long time.


New Blockadrunner Bonus:
- able to fit Cloakings and 95% to 100% reduction in cloacking device penaltys and CPU need :)
- able to use Blackops fields

AK Blockadrunners == CovOps suport haulers

FORD ESC0RT
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:35:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Demarcus
To be honest, speed has completely ruined EvE, the first time I saw a battleship do over 12k a second I new PvP was ruined for a long time.


QFT

Yaay
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Posted - 2008.06.12 00:37:00 - [16]
 

Speed currently is probably my least favorite thing in eve. People can argue against it if they'd like, but you know something in the game is beyond reason when everyone is doing it.

The general tendency of players is to go for what's easy rather than what's fun because, well it's easy.

Sure there are counters to speed, but they're so limited that they're usually overcome relatively easily. Personally, I'd like to see 1 and only 1 change... reduce webbers speed debuff to about 40%, boost the range to about 40 for t1 and 50 for t2. Rapier painter bonus could change to a speed redux bonus in addition to it's range bonus.

Gridwalker
Amarr
Divine Power.
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.12 01:27:00 - [17]
 

Completely off topic, but did you know the space shuttle goes approximately 1381 m/s ?

OK, carry on. EVE doomed. Yadda yadda. :)

-Grid

Cpt Jagermeister
United Systems Navy
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2008.06.12 01:28:00 - [18]
 

I'm pretty new to the game and I gotta say, you just outlined all my fears about the future. I keep seeing the same complaints over and over again.... It is really unfortunate that these problems exist and i hope they are sorted out within the next 6 months or so because I may lose interest in this game as well. Sorry to hear your deactivating your account, but I can understand your frustrations.

CCP has impressed me in many ways and disappointed me in many other ways. It's so hard to change these things around and not **** off a ton of people but at some point they need to "man up" and just ****ing do it. I find the thought of cloaking Cap ships with the same module as is required to cloak a frigate hilarious, same with nanoing bs's, epic fail.

(i don't care to discuss the usefulness of doing either, I just feel they just shouldn't be able to)

Hannobaal
Gallente
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2008.06.12 01:31:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Dreez
All we see is POS warfare or blobbing.

GTFOOB: Get the f out of BoB!


Indeed!

Thong Gnome
Posted - 2008.06.12 01:40:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Thong Gnome on 12/06/2008 01:42:40
Edited by: Thong Gnome on 12/06/2008 01:41:51
Edited by: Thong Gnome on 12/06/2008 01:40:13



I hate the speed issue as well, I think it is outa control. Only sad thing is 75+% of the pvp subscriber base does it. Why would CCP nerf it?

Alot of people threaten CCP with ending their subscription if nano is ever fixed and toned down like it should have been long ago.

CCP does not have the cohonees nor the brains to balance this game.

They are to worried about what little sissies might get ****ed off.

AleRiperKilt
Posted - 2008.06.12 01:54:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: AleRiperKilt on 12/06/2008 01:55:48
Translation from Whinenglish follows:

Cloaks: I don't like cloak because I can't see the ships I want to destroy.

Logoffsky: I don't like logoffsky because the ships I want to destroy dissapear.

Nanos: I don't like nanos because the ships I want to destroy go too fast

Blobs: I don't like blobs because I get blown up all the time.

Here is my point of view:
- I love cloak because it keeps hostiles from finding me
- I love logoffsky because I can grief bubblecampers and other logoffsky abusers.
- I love nanos because my ships go so fast the bad guys can't catch me
- I love blobs because I can wtfpwn these roaming hostile gangs in their shiny T2 HICtors (although they usually logoffsky when they see us coming Twisted Evil)

Thong Gnome
Posted - 2008.06.12 01:56:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Thong Gnome on 12/06/2008 01:56:26
Originally by: AleRiperKilt
Translation from Whinenglish follows:

Cloaks: I don't like cloak because I can't see the ships I want to destroy.

Logoffsky: I don't like logoffsky because the ships I want to destroy dissapear.

Nanos: I don't like nanos because the ships I want to destroy go too fast

Blobs: I don't like blobs because I get blown up all the time.

Here is my point of view:
- I love cloak because I can use it keep hostiles from finding me
- I love logoffsky because is the best way to grief bubblecampers and other logoffsky abusers.
- I love nanos because make my ships go so fast the bad guys can't catch me
- I love blobs because I can wtfpwn these roaming hostile gangs in their shiny T2 HICtors (although they usually logoffsky when they see us coming Twisted Evil)



So you admit to liking and being a part of easymode no-risk pvp that CCP currently allows?

Dr Wellesley
Burden of Mars
Posted - 2008.06.12 01:57:00 - [23]
 

OP is right. The most fun I get out of EVE these days is managing my corp. I could give a **** about flying around in the ships and fighting. It's getting crazy.

AleRiperKilt
Posted - 2008.06.12 02:55:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Thong Gnome

So you admit to liking and being a part of easymode no-risk pvp that CCP currently allows?


So ratting in 0.0 watching local every 5 secs is easy?, running bubblecamps in nano cloaking frigate is easy?. wtfpwning a 3 year old hostile in a shinny HAC is easy? (he didn't expect us to unleash web/neut drones on him)

OP is asking for EASY PIRATING, is not going to happen. Pirating is only for the best of the best and they don't whine.

Smackles
Posted - 2008.06.12 03:13:00 - [25]
 

Shut up and stop crying. EVE cry and quit needs to stop! Just quit ffs and stop crying before you leave.

Novemb3r
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.12 03:18:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: AleRiperKilt
OP is asking for EASY PIRATING, is not going to happen. Pirating is only for the best of the best and they don't whine.



Looking at the OP's alliance ticker I'm pretty sure he's not asking for easy pirating at all.


 

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