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Ilany
Gallente
Black Moon Mining
Posted - 2008.06.13 19:35:00 - [91]
 

Edited by: Ilany on 13/06/2008 19:36:35
Edited by: Ilany on 13/06/2008 19:35:39
Originally by: Eltyron
Originally by: Ilany

Very HappyVery Happy
I saw what you did there.

Whats to see?


Oh right, sorry - I assumed your post was an impression of a certain ego-centric former-alliance former-leader who had a tendency to appear on these boards and tell everyone how every disaster was all part of the big plan and BRUCE would learn from the experience etc etc.

evoli rehathe
Gallente
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
Posted - 2008.06.13 20:14:00 - [92]
 

Hey all my ex BRUCES! Sorrowed , grim, hell even raj all these ex bruces fighting about bruce! Just wanted to stop by and say sup!


Who are you mary anne, you don't show on our killboards so I'm assuming your a alt?

later peeps

evo


Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
Posted - 2008.06.13 21:24:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Carrier Eleven
Originally by: Issler Dainze

Also, consider a name less pretentious, "Brutally Clever"? Kind of sad looking at how it ended.

Issler


They could use the alliance name "The Ford Explorer" then come hang out in highsec with your pack of losers. ughLaughing


Consider aquiring a thesarus. Accord = alliance. Explorer really doesn't have any meaning relevant to the concept of an alliance.

Also, hardly losers (we are extremely happy doing exactly what we enjoy most) and hardly high sec, we are very active on low sec which is in many ways more challenging that living safely behind a gate bubble in some 0.0 backwater.

Finally a shiny "Hi" to the former BRUCE in the thread that passed through Tada O on their way in (or out). Glad to see you all still out in the 'verse!

Issler

Grim Mercy
Minmatar
Heretic Logistics
Heretic Nation
Posted - 2008.06.13 21:26:00 - [94]
 

Ok, Rajere, you win. I'll stop posting. Posting in this thread feels like trying to get my nephew to potty before bed, anyway. He doesn't ever think he has to go right then, but you know he'll end up wetting himself in the night.

So, go ahead an keep ****ing in the bed, Rajere. I honestly don't care.

You win at Eve, and the forums, and logic. I'll tip my glass in your honor tonight, and I expect you to do the same, if you're old enough for whatever the laws are in your part of the world.

Mary Anne
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2008.06.13 22:21:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: evoli rehathe
Hey all my ex BRUCES! Sorrowed , grim, hell even raj all these ex bruces fighting about bruce! Just wanted to stop by and say sup!


Who are you mary anne, you don't show on our killboards so I'm assuming your a alt?

later peeps

evo




Dear evoli,

I am ... just a small girl Embarassed looking for real men and did not find them in BRUCE ugh

Yours most kindly

Mary Anne


IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.06.13 23:13:00 - [96]
 

Quote:
Dear evoli,

I am ... just a small girl looking for real men and did not find them in BRUCE

Yours most kindly

Mary Anne



Ouch, just ripped them off and stomped on them. Burn...

Olex Grant
Minmatar
Resilience.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.06.13 23:18:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Grim Mercy
... claims that HUZZAH/NOTR/OSS were kicking our butts with unbelievable efficiencies ...


I have the foolish urge to raise my head above the pa****t and into the line of fire on this one, if only to point out that Huzzah (along with EXM and FireM) stood alone against BRUCE after OSS's disastrous NAP fiasco with BRUCE and it was during this time that we got our best results against you - the Aeon kill in PC9 being the obvious example.

Broadly speaking, when we were all NAPed (we being Huzzah, OSS and the others of that time), we had roughly equal numbers on both sides I would guess and we had some great fights as I recall. When that fell apart we were vastly outnumbered in Syndicate, as virtually everyone in Syndicate was hostile to us, but having said that, it was the best time for us.

It'll be interesting to see how the shoe being on the other foot this time round pans out for BRUCE.


Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.06.15 11:39:00 - [98]
 

Edited by: Wusti on 15/06/2008 11:42:31
I still don't get why these BRUCE and former-BRUCE characters come on these forums trying to defend BRUCE and everything about it.

Wake up guys - you would still own Fountain and be carrying that arrogant smart-arse attitude around with you now if you were so bloody great and glorious.

And seriously Grim - praising the posts of guys like Freid and 12oz, and then accusing others of spin was the most exasperating thing I've read on CAOD. You truly ARE delusional.

I have documented evidence of fabrications from the ex-BRUCE leaders - hit me up in game. Once you go through that evidence you will start to realise the "Glorious Ideal" was a sham from beginning to end.

But for gods sake, just stop posting like this. I honestly feel sorry for many of the BRUCE members who were lead on by all of this -just open your eyes buddy and seek the truth - it is "out there" LOL

Edited PS: For those who are now tired of BRUCE threads I'm with ya - but couldn't help myself. Also - I have no problem with any game or meta-game mechanic per se, I do have a problem with those who claim to be above it all, whilst indulging it themselves. In this game be nasty, be nice, but please don't go on endlessly about claiming the high moral ground when it just aint yours.

S1r Minealot
Gallente
Resilience.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.06.16 21:43:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: S1r Minealot on 16/06/2008 21:51:42
Originally by: Rajere
Edited by: Rajere on 13/06/2008 17:26:09
there's only so many times you can confuse me for someone else, and only so many times I can call you on it before realizing you lack the ability to learn, so I won't bother anymore. The one point I will refute is this:
"And your KB has been proven light on the loss-mails in the past, so the figures you provide, while entertaining, are only confirmed through you, and as such are completely biased (not to mention, inaccurate). "
Proven? One ex-bruce spouts something as fact, and you then parrot it back and so it's proven? Sorrowed made this claim and it was so rediculous I didn't even bother with a retort (seriously, bruce claiming an opponent doesn't post losses? You hid behind a private killboard @ 30% efficiency with over half of your losses going unposted). I could say man up and unhide your killboard before you dare accuse anyone of not posting losses but there's no point now, none of you are still in bruce. I will say this is the most outrageous claim i've ever seen, as unlike yourselves, we require every single loss to be posted. I'll make you a deal, KB is in the sig, if you can find a single lossmail missing, doesn't matter what it is, a pod, a shuttle, hell a newbship even, i'll stop making fun of bruce on caod. Our KB started in October, so please, prove me wrong. Better yet, the killmail system was overhauled 12/6/07, I'll invite chribba or whoever neutral 3rd party into corp to verify any alleged lossmail through the api system. Since your claims are nothing more than baseless propaganda and smack, the very things you accuse me of, when you fail to back up your claims please eat a bowl of, well you know, and stop posting. Thanks.


Rajere, after you have talked to "Vandergrift Paige" from No Trademark and checked the Shade. public killboard, i hope you keep your word and stick to the deal.

Just ask what happened with his Armageddon in IIRH on 2008-05-31 20:40:00

nuff said

EDIT: ok i maybe should have read better, his loss is posted on the no trademark kb, but not on the oss one..

The Ubernomicon
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.06.17 00:33:00 - [100]
 

Glad to see that Brutally Clever Empire was a misnomer.

Eltyron
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.17 00:36:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: The Ubernomicon
Glad to see that Brutally Clever Empire was a misnomer.


Your corp intrigues me. Please send me more information as to how to join.

My references: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8dFf-BhUzk

Empyre
Minmatar
Chaotic Balance
Posted - 2008.06.17 00:37:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: PsychoBones
Edited by: PsychoBones on 07/06/2008 02:44:15
First in a BRUCE failurecascade thread


hows that whole "defeat bob" thing going?

IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.06.17 00:38:00 - [103]
 

There was a lack of cleverness form the top down. As for the brutal, throwing mk3s wave upon wave on the enemies superior fittings (out of being flexible, PL is smart) for 2 months without change fits the the bill. Very Happy

Karenzi
Minmatar
No Trademark
Posted - 2008.06.17 00:51:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Grim Mercy
Ok, Rajere, you win. I'll stop posting. Posting in this thread feels like trying to get my nephew to potty before bed, anyway. He doesn't ever think he has to go right then, but you know he'll end up wetting himself in the night.

So, go ahead an keep ****ing in the bed, Rajere. I honestly don't care.

You win at Eve, and the forums, and logic. I'll tip my glass in your honor tonight, and I expect you to do the same, if you're old enough for whatever the laws are in your part of the world.


i dont think you could be more see through. get a life

mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.17 01:12:00 - [105]
 

bruce are the best opponents ive ever fought in an internet space game. i mean this honestly, and i wish more of our opponents could be like bruce in every way.

Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.06.17 03:00:00 - [106]
 

Having now been hit up in-game a couple of times for my evidence, I have now located all component parts and and have put it together to make the provision of it easier. Should anyone else want it, or those who have asked preivously want the full details, please request again.

Please note this will only be provided to those with a bonafide interest in the matters

Shinma Apollo
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2008.06.17 07:29:00 - [107]
 

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mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.17 08:30:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Shinma Apollo

Originally by: mazzilliu
bruce are the best opponents ive ever fought in an internet space game. i mean this honestly, and i wish more of our opponents could be like bruce in every way.


Though I know this is meant sardonically, I'll reciprocate more genuinely; I had a lot of fighting against PL and the entire 'Fall of BRUCE.' PL is a top-notch alliance, and in spite of being on the losing side, it was a very satisfying challenge flying and FCing against you guys. You would have loved some of the hair-brained ideas we came up with in secret to try and beat the vent hack, like getting "Arnold" to sing opera loudly while targets were broadcast. ugh

On a side note, is that 'sing for a moon' deal still up for me, cause I wouldn't mind a personal Dypso moon now Very Happy

"itsy bitsy spider" might net you a sillicates moon, but if you want dyspro, you better put a full chior ensemble together for us YARRRR!!

Also I do mean it genuinely as well, BRUCE were really a unique alliance that i've seen in EVE and i enjoyed seeing all the different things BRUCE tried(in public and in secret). i believe fighting bruce was the most fun ive had in eve... ever. forgive my smack in the past, it was mostly written hot off of our trying to deal with bruce diplomats and other walls to bang our head against. i later found bruce to be much more enjoyable when they just spat hate and i could just accept that and kill them.

and to let you in on a little secret between you and me and CAOD... there was exactly zero hacking involved. i don't know if its even possible to hack your vent server, provided it's updated software. didn't you guys notice a HUGE number of reps with leadership access in bruce? one of them was longterm friends with one of my guys and i managed to swing a deal that got us a feed of info from leadership. terrible recruitment policies took care of the rest, as when you have a dozen different characters in bruce its really easy just to rotate between them if you think one is being suspected of something, the traditional method of "make a list... strike off the good ones" really falls apart when the pool of suspects is wide.

********** was thrown in there to make you guys **** your pants and pay attention to what we had to say. if we woulda done something different we might have eased up a bit on the idea of "hacking" so you guys wouldnt blindly hate us so much you would do nothing but get in the way but eh, 20/20 hindsight Arrow

IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.06.17 08:49:00 - [109]
 

Edited by: IronGoldenEagle on 17/06/2008 08:52:07
Omg I'm actually going to respond to someone on COAD, guess cuz hes a former corpie. The Mk3s were a great theory. Ill repeat, a great THEORY. But it should have been quite obvious going into Fountain with a large member base and expecting blob warfare with other alliance that the mk3 theory fails completely in lag situations and in many non ones as well. Even in non lag situations tho PL would just pop the ships by switching targets quickly or hitting one so quick with enough DPS to kill it b4 the RR landed and as it was all armor based, you didnt usually cal for it until about 1/4 into shields (or thats what we started having to do, but PLs constantly switching targets killed that).

So yeah the mk3s were a terrible fitting that didnt work and could have and should have been scrapped as well as the reimbursemnt program when we had the moons to pay for the stuff. Instead people waited weeks for new ships instead of just grabbing their own and going right back out. O and the people that tried to argue these systems were failures and change them were snubbed and ridiculed so yeah. Epic phail

EDIT: And those modificatiosn were the sniper and battlecruiser mk3s. Guess what, the Battlecruiser mk3s were complete and utter failures across the board.

Shinma Apollo
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2008.06.17 10:09:00 - [110]
 

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SEN TAKOO
Gallente
PMC Enterprises
Posted - 2008.06.18 22:46:00 - [111]
 

Well being an ex-Bruce member I liked my time in fountain, I had no real problem with fitting the Friedrick mkIII's the remote repping saved my ass many times (unless I was flying a scorpSad) I made lots of isk while down in fountain selling rigs to ppl needing to replace BS's which was offten, the fights did suck when you had 200+ ppl on the same grid, but overall it was a great learning experience and I didnt lose any iskies personally when Dead parrots up and left so.....
I will say that when things were working well our response time to reds in system was great, it was nothing to get 50+ ppl in a fleet in under 5 mins, how many other alliances can say that?
from looking at post on subject I'm sure I'll get flamed quick but who cares? that seems thats what this fourm is all about.

xRevolveRx
Amarr
Masters of Mayhem
Posted - 2008.06.18 23:15:00 - [112]
 

its over. let it go

BAteh
Amarr
Penumbra Congregatio
Posted - 2008.06.18 23:34:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: xRevolveRx
its over. let it go


You're not a judge nor a referee.

<sarcasm>
Come on, be nice, stop dissing BRUCE.

Like... they're so nice. Take this example:
Member for 4 months, and (im guessing) because i had a -very- serious personal problem (hospital, needles, MRIs, you get the picture) i was never even given the "Recruit" Title. No roles, no nothing.

Then, when Bruce had to flee out of Fountain because of their pathetic "MK3 official fleet fits" aka:

"you have to field that crap or else you won't get reimbursed", the oh-so-generous pilots who transported our GSCs.... apparently were allowed to steal whatever they were transporting.

Unless it's pure coincidence that out of the 4 GSCs i threw in the hangar to be transported, ONLY the one with my Faction gear and T2 vanished...
In case you're wondering, of course i alerted about this missing GSC, of course noone cared.
And mine wasn't the only "misplaced" GSC...
</sarcasm>


On top of my personal crap, BRUCE has made this game into something i do NOT want to be involved with, instead of something i used as escape from RL, which (i already said why) WAS helping me through a rough stage.

Go rot in hell.

xRevolveRx
Amarr
Masters of Mayhem
Posted - 2008.06.18 23:59:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: BAteh
Originally by: xRevolveRx
its over. let it go


You're not a judge nor a referee.

<sarcasm>
Come on, be nice, stop dissing BRUCE.

Like... they're so nice. Take this example:
Member for 4 months, and (im guessing) because i had a -very- serious personal problem (hospital, needles, MRIs, you get the picture) i was never even given the "Recruit" Title. No roles, no nothing.

Then, when Bruce had to flee out of Fountain because of their pathetic "MK3 official fleet fits" aka:

"you have to field that crap or else you won't get reimbursed", the oh-so-generous pilots who transported our GSCs.... apparently were allowed to steal whatever they were transporting.

Unless it's pure coincidence that out of the 4 GSCs i threw in the hangar to be transported, ONLY the one with my Faction gear and T2 vanished...
In case you're wondering, of course i alerted about this missing GSC, of course noone cared.
And mine wasn't the only "misplaced" GSC...
</sarcasm>


On top of my personal crap, BRUCE has made this game into something i do NOT want to be involved with, instead of something i used as escape from RL, which (i already said why) WAS helping me through a rough stage.

Go rot in hell.


You should probably thank midgath stallsman. Never trust a goonie.

Battlestar Galactica
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.06.19 12:42:00 - [115]
 

does any1 care anymore?

Carrier Eleven
Gallente
EVE Posting Service
Posted - 2008.06.19 13:55:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Battlestar Galactica
does any1 care anymore?



Just a few BRUCE haters who keep resurrecting these threadsRolling Eyes

The Ubernomicon
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.06.19 18:29:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: xRevolveRx
You should probably thank midgath stallsman. Never trust a goonie.


He is not one of the people I scammed. BRUCE leadership did more damage to the alliance then anything I could ever do, focus on them before getting upset at the lousy 3b I made off with.

Moon Kitten
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.19 18:32:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: Moon Kitten on 19/06/2008 18:32:45
3 billion is not that much when titans are stolen in other alliances.

Steph Wing
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.06.19 19:01:00 - [119]
 

Posting in a BRUCE-bash thread.

Rajere
Gallente
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.19 19:36:00 - [120]
 

If whoever was in charge of bruce now had any decency they would just close the alliance down, then this thread along with the alliance could die in peace. As it stands now you're bleeding ~30 members a day and it appears your alliance will limp along wherever you are now, obviously not fountain or syndicate, failboating for another month before you lose all your members.


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