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Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 12:21:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Iva Soreass on 30/05/2008 12:39:02

So i got the cash ready to buy a new PC (anywhere between £500 and £800//£900), thing is i have no idea about building one so figured i would buy one already built.

I been looking at chillblast, they seem ok but does anyone know of another UK based site//store ? which are reliable and such.

Im after a -

Core 2 Duo Quadcore
4gb RAM
nVidia 8800GT Card minimum
Fully upgradeable to (if i choose to in a year or so down the line)

Any help//advice would be great.

And yes i know there is always so many PC build threads on here and im sorry in advance for that !.


Edit**Forgot to add budget!.

Lyn Quan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.30 13:05:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Iva Soreass
Edited by: Iva Soreass on 30/05/2008 12:39:02

So i got the cash ready to buy a new PC (anywhere between £500 and £800//£900), thing is i have no idea about building one so figured i would buy one already built.

I been looking at chillblast, they seem ok but does anyone know of another UK based site//store ? which are reliable and such.

Im after a -

Core 2 Duo Quadcore
4gb RAM
nVidia 8800GT Card minimum
Fully upgradeable to (if i choose to in a year or so down the line)

Any help//advice would be great.

And yes i know there is always so many PC build threads on here and im sorry in advance for that !.


Edit**Forgot to add budget!.


I dunno but your name is not clever Crying or Very sad

Dan Glebitts
Posted - 2008.05.30 13:22:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Dan Glebitts on 30/05/2008 13:22:52
Originally by: Lyn Quan
I dunno but your name is not clever Crying or Very sad


I like it... But then I would.

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 13:25:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Iva Soreass on 30/05/2008 13:25:35

@ Lyn Quan, Thank you for being very helpful and your input Rolling Eyes

Lyn Quan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.30 13:26:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Iva Soreass
Edited by: Iva Soreass on 30/05/2008 13:25:35

@ Lyn Quan, Thank you for being very helpful and your input Rolling Eyes


Sorry but it's Friday and I spent all the helpful at work this week. All that's left is this bitter little troll Neutral

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 13:35:00 - [6]
 


annoing
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2008.05.30 13:36:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: annoing on 30/05/2008 13:37:30
Ive always used Overclockers.co.uk since the first time I started self-builds. Ive always found them reliable, quick and competent (though i'm sure others will disagree).

Within your price range and within your specifications, just look at the right hand menu and choose 'overclocked'. You can upgrade more memory etc now if that is your choice. These pre-builds are already overclocked and guarenteed. All you need to do is add software / monitor and upgrades if that is your wish.

Best of luck if this is not what you desire or are looking for.




Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 13:40:00 - [8]
 

Thanks annoing i will look at them, (tho the page you linked didn't :s just went straight to there home page).



How about hese anybody heard of these ? http://www.arbico.co.uk/

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.05.30 13:57:00 - [9]
 

This should get you started. I have heard a lot of good things about Overclockers. And that base configuration seems about what you want(Which is a good build). Cool

Imperator Jora'h
Posted - 2008.05.30 14:07:00 - [10]
 

I'd recommend saving money and skipping the quad-core in favor of a dual core. I seriously doubt you will notice a difference with a quad core as very few programs will actually take advantage of it. A dual-core will perform great and meet your needs and the money saved could be applied to better graphics and such which you will notice more.

Just my 0.02 ISK

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 14:10:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
I'd recommend saving money and skipping the quad-core in favor of a dual core. I seriously doubt you will notice a difference with a quad core as very few programs will actually take advantage of it. A dual-core will perform great and meet your needs and the money saved could be applied to better graphics and such which you will notice more.

Just my 0.02 ISK


Dual cores are becoming obsolite (SP?) no ? didn't core 2 duo's replace them ? (as you can tell im abit of a newbConfused)

Reason behind a quad is for the futre im thinking more long term.

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 14:22:00 - [12]
 

Now i got someone telling me to buy from dell get a top of the range one :s

Why can't they just make this easy like when buying a console!

Imperator Jora'h
Posted - 2008.05.30 14:41:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Iva Soreass


Dual cores are becoming obsolite (SP?) no ? didn't core 2 duo's replace them ? (as you can tell im abit of a newbConfused)

Reason behind a quad is for the futre im thinking more long term.


Well...a Core2-Duo is a dual core CPU. That is different than a dual-cpu setup where you had two separate chips on the same board. In this case the two CPU cores are on one chip but they concept is the same and they run more efficiently than dual-cpu setups.

Core2-Duo is far from obsolete. It is pretty much the gold standard today and will likely remain so for a few years.

As for going obsolete frankly by the time Quad-core becomes the defacto standard the chip you get today will be obsolete not matter what it is. Either way you are in for an upgrade in a few years.

If money were no object then I'd say go for it. But you have a budget and I believe that money put into other components will net you far more value and utility (e.g. a better video card or better speakers or faster memory or a blu-ray DVD or whatever).

FYI: Nvidia is due to release their new line of cards June 18 (ATI is likewise doing the same within a day or two of that). As such better video cards will be available and the current line will almost certainly drop in price to make room for the new stuff. If I were you I'd wait a few weeks but up to you.

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 14:55:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Imperator Jora'h


FYI: Nvidia is due to release their new line of cards June 18 (ATI is likewise doing the same within a day or two of that). As such better video cards will be available and the current line will almost certainly drop in price to make room for the new stuff. If I were you I'd wait a few weeks but up to you.



I didnt mean the core2 duos i ment the dual cores which you said.

Also is this 100% ? if i do wait and they dont release will be Evil or Very Mad as i need a new pc badly :/

Binnii
Posted - 2008.05.30 15:17:00 - [15]
 

www.dnuk.com

Imperator Jora'h
Posted - 2008.05.30 15:18:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 30/05/2008 15:22:03
Originally by: Iva Soreass
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h


FYI: Nvidia is due to release their new line of cards June 18 (ATI is likewise doing the same within a day or two of that). As such better video cards will be available and the current line will almost certainly drop in price to make room for the new stuff. If I were you I'd wait a few weeks but up to you.



I didnt mean the core2 duos i ment the dual cores which you said.


Well...they are dual core. Wink Just lazy language on my part.

Quote:
Also is this 100% ? if i do wait and they dont release will be Evil or Very Mad as i need a new pc badly :/


I do NOT know if it is a worldwide release or just US or what but otherwise yes, I am sure. I cannot say with certainty current prices on existing cards will drop in price but that is how it has always worked in the past. How much the prices drop is open to question...saving a few quid probably is not worth waiting for...saving a few hundred is. I have no idea where the prices will go.

Although rumor has those new GTX280s (Nvidia is doing a new naming scheme) as pretty rocking cards that blow away the current lineup. Just rumor though. Till release we will not have any reviews and benchmarks to know for sure.

Nvidia's GT-200 to Hit Shelves on June 18

GeForce GTX280 to Launch June 18

Radeon HD 4850 coming June 18, GeForce GTX280 to follow

Plenty more where those came from if you Google it.

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 16:23:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Iva Soreass on 30/05/2008 16:23:59
Are these good enough ?
- http://www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=PRODUCTCONFIGPAGE&USG=PRODUCT&ENT=PRODUCT&KEY=359120

I changed a few things on it -

Dropped the monitor
upgraded the gfx card to the 8800gts
upgraded the mobo to the 750i SLi (so in futre i can buy a 2nd card if needed)
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or

This http://www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=PRODUCTCONFIGPAGE&USG=PRODUCT&ENT=PRODUCT&KEY=359120

Changed a few things -

Dropped the monitor
Upgraded the GFX card to the 8800GTS
upgraded the mobo to the 750i SLi


Mesh have been recomended to me so thought i would play about with this, any suggestions ?.

Was also messing around on Overclockers but seems they got alot out of stock so i stopped ugh

annoing
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2008.05.30 16:54:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Iva Soreass
Edited by: Iva Soreass on 30/05/2008 16:23:59
Are these good enough ?
- http://www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=PRODUCTCONFIGPAGE&USG=PRODUCT&ENT=PRODUCT&KEY=359120

Was also messing around on Overclockers but seems they got alot out of stock so i stopped ugh



I know MESH computers, they are based near the end of the M1 in north London and they are utterly shyte. I used to do courier contracts for them and would have to travel all over the place with replacement componants, sometimes visiting the same place 3-4 times. I did think of them earlier but, tbh, I have no idea if they have changed their shyte build quality over the last few years. As for overclockers being out of stock on some things, if you are ordering one of their pre-builds it makes no difference. If they say 48hrs it will be 48hrs. Ive always found them to be ultra reliable as far as delivery and componants are concerned. The only thing that went wrong with them in the last 4 builds ive made is they sent the wrong dvd/r, it was the more expensive model Shocked so obviously I sent it back Wink
But, its your cash, spend it where you think it is right. All we can do is give you ideas. Best of luck.



Achtan
Posted - 2008.05.30 17:33:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Iva Soreass


Core 2 Duo Quadcore
4gb RAM
nVidia 8800GT Card minimum
Fully upgradeable to (if i choose to in a year or so down the line)


i got a new computer to those exact specs two months ago from a small local computer shop (in northern ireland) that built it to order for just under £800.

made sure it came with xp (can only use 3.2gb of the ram but will be handy if/when i get another OS).

runs great. Cool

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.30 17:46:00 - [20]
 

You know annoing your not the only one who has said that to me.

Ok i been looking on OcUK and will probably get from there.

AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
Posted - 2008.05.30 23:41:00 - [21]
 

I can wholeheartedly recommend Vadim computers Linkage.

They normally do custom builds, but their entry level models start at around £600 - do a search through the 'home-office' range and spec a model up to see how much your budget will stretch to.
You could probably save a few quid by purchasing the gfx card through someone else and just slot it in when Vadim deliver the base unit, so long as you tell Vadim which card you are going to put in it, they will test the unit accordingly and arrange the power cables to line up etc, so it would be easy to do.

Customer service is excellent, build quality very high and they have high QA tests before shipping.

AK.

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Posted - 2008.05.31 09:48:00 - [22]
 

www.pcspecialist.co.uk usually have good prices on the sort of thing you're trying to get. They have competent tech support, but either their QA is awful or I've been extremely unlucky (currently on the 3rd RMA after multiple hardware failures). They generally don't use cheap components, so perhaps my experiences aren't typical.

Terinnon
Amarr
German Trading Association
Posted - 2008.05.31 10:16:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Terinnon on 31/05/2008 10:18:00
My personal recommendation is:

Intel Core2Quad Q6600 g0 stepping, with a scythe Mugen cooler

Foxconn P35 Board P35AX-S

4GB DDR2 800RAM (2x2GB Kit OCZ)

500GB Samsung S-ATA HDD

2x ATI RADEON 3850 512MB in Crossfire

Coolermaster Centurion 5 Case
650W PSU Corsair

Vista Premium 64bit OS SP1


With this components u got a very good price-performance-ratio.

I run the same PC!
u can OC the Quad easy to 3,2ghz to match the Q9650.

this will cost in Germany :
800euro with assembling. Dunno how much pounds :(

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.31 13:06:00 - [24]
 

This is what i ended up ordering, was cheap enough and seemed a nice little bundle (was on special offer to!)

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- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 GO 2.40GHz Quad Core CPU Overclocked too a minimum of 3.30GHz and beyond. (8/9 x 400MHz - 1600MHz FSB)
- Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Intel approved cooler
- Arctic Silver 5 Heatsink compound professionally hand installed by our technicians
- Abit IP35-Pro Intel P35 (Socket LGA775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
- Award winning OCZ 2GB Platinum PC2-6400 CAS4 (2x1GB) Dual Channel Kit (Overclocked at 800MHz+)
- 500GB Maxtox Diamondmax 22 32MB Cache SATA-2 Hard Drive
- NVIDIA 8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) DirectX 10 Graphics Card
- Pioneer 215DBK 20x DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black)
- Corsair TX 650W Next Generation Power Supply


I doubled the ram to 4gb aswell.

annoing
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2008.05.31 14:43:00 - [25]
 

where from if you dont mind me asking?


ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.05.31 15:02:00 - [26]
 

That's one of the OCUK pre-built kits, right?

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2008.05.31 15:25:00 - [27]
 

From overclockers and yep reaper thats the one you was talking to my friend about (he mentioned you) so lol we both ordered it :P.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.05.31 15:31:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Iva Soreass
From overclockers and yep reaper thats the one you was talking to my friend about (he mentioned you) so lol we both ordered it :P.


Yay, I'm famous! Razz

Mad Mackem
The Scope
Posted - 2008.05.31 22:06:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Mad Mackem on 31/05/2008 22:06:34
Cyber Power

Absolutely awesome pc's. Superb build quality.

David Detritus
Gallente
The Jolly Rodgerers
Discordia.
Posted - 2008.05.31 22:47:00 - [30]
 

be warned that your abit mobo is likely to crap out shortly after the warranty expires.

Ive used ABIT boards in my last 2 builds and the first one i had has lost its onboard sound then died, the second one also lost its sound and is starting to lose its SATA controller, the current one (in the pc I use now) is still going but its still on warranty so...

why do I keep buying them you wonder? its because they are cheap and fairly good while they last and using AMD chips generally means a new socket type for each upgrade.

p.s. good choice on the nvidia card, ati drivers will suck out your soul and murder your OS


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