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Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.29 20:18:00 - [1]
 

When posting on the forums:

Please list all chars on that account under the char details on the left and change forum bans to account wide not just on that one char.

If people want to spam or flamebait then let them pay for another account to do so.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.29 20:52:00 - [2]
 

Disagree - you're basically preventing people on the forums from using alts for purposes other than "Look! 800k free SP!". I've posted on the forums a couple times with an alt when I've seen an interesting business opportunity I didn't want connected to my main, or when I wanted to make a proposal that I wanted to keep deliberately vague on the details. Masking your identity is probably the single most important purpose of alts, and I don't want it eliminated just because people choose to post on the forums.

The RedPlague
Gallente
Posted - 2008.05.29 21:01:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: The RedPlague on 29/05/2008 21:12:02


Posting with alts lets tools talk $hit without any repercussions ingame ... definately needs to be looked into because it definately contributes to most of the smack and unpreductiveness of the forums .. ie .. not letting 14 day accounts post ... for starters

This is my trolling alt .. but she's almost 2 years old Wink

PS: Yeah my siggy's ready :-)





Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.

Posted - 2008.05.31 16:34:00 - [4]
 

Bumpage Exclamation

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.31 16:53:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Bumpage Exclamation


Please, no bumping. This forum is busy enough already without unpopular ideas hitting the top as well. If you really feel the need to bump, at least make it look legit, and do it with an alt Twisted Evil

Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.31 17:13:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Gone'Postal
Bumpage Exclamation


Please, no bumping. This forum is busy enough already without unpopular ideas hitting the top as well. If you really feel the need to bump, at least make it look legit, and do it with an alt Twisted Evil


CCP forums rules, 1 bump every 24 hours, Don't like it make an issue to change themWink
and unpopular idea?? one for and one against, thats even unless you can't countWink

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.31 17:37:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Gone'Postal
Bumpage Exclamation


Please, no bumping. This forum is busy enough already without unpopular ideas hitting the top as well. If you really feel the need to bump, at least make it look legit, and do it with an alt Twisted Evil


CCP forums rules, 1 bump every 24 hours, Don't like it make an issue to change themWink
and unpopular idea?? one for and one against, thats even unless you can't countWink


My understanding is that the 1 bump every 24 hours rule is for the commercial forums - character/GTC trades, buy/sell orders, and the like. You're not allowed to bump on Eve General, or that place would be even more frightening than it already is.

As for unpopularity, you have 1 for, 1 against, 70 viewers who didn't like it enough to thumbs-up or hate it enough to complain, and 500 who didn't even care enough to look. Since there's no actual way to express disapproval, I think apathy is a pretty decent indicator. Also, the word I used was "unpopular" - since there's certainly no popularity here, it qualifies in the proper definition as well as the implication.

Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.31 19:06:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Gone''Postal on 31/05/2008 19:23:12
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Gone'Postal
Bumpage Exclamation


Please, no bumping. This forum is busy enough already without unpopular ideas hitting the top as well. If you really feel the need to bump, at least make it look legit, and do it with an alt Twisted Evil


CCP forums rules, 1 bump every 24 hours, Don't like it make an issue to change themWink
and unpopular idea?? one for and one against, thats even unless you can't countWink


My understanding is that the 1 bump every 24 hours rule is for the commercial forums - character/GTC trades, buy/sell orders, and the like. You're not allowed to bump on Eve General, or that place would be even more frightening than it already is.

Well i'm sorrrrryyyyy, Please link me to the place where they say I can't bump posts in this forum directly, since people either need to agree or disagree and with the so many posts popping up bumping appears to be the only way to get an idea across before it's down on page 3.

As for unpopularity, you have 1 for, 1 against, 70 viewers who didn't like it enough to thumbs-up or hate it enough to complain,

Sorry how does that effect the post, hell for all you know i could have just reloaded teh thread 70 times.

and 500 who didn't even care enough to look.

Where do you get that number from?

Since there's no actual way to express disapproval,
Not my issue m8, thats CCP's.

I think apathy is a pretty decent indicator. Also, the word I used was "unpopular" - since there's certainly no popularity here, it qualifies in the proper definition as well as the implication.

What is to be considdered as popular ? personaly I'd love to see poeple post here saying it's a bad/good idea at least they will have a say, (CSM is all about that) but for a popularity thing, can't really give it that due to the fact there is no scale, hell if if someone posts an idea and gets 20k of replys is it popular, are them 20k of replys the same group fightign over details? is it 20k of diffrent players saying frack off to the OP, give me a scale here, at least something to work on. replys vs views can't be used as i'll just open a thread every thread and hold down F5.


Now please stop re-railing my thread

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.31 19:50:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 31/05/2008 19:50:57
Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
My understanding is that the 1 bump every 24 hours rule is for the commercial forums - character/GTC trades, buy/sell orders, and the like. You're not allowed to bump on Eve General, or that place would be even more frightening than it already is.
Well i'm sorrrrryyyyy, Please link me to the place where they say I can't bump posts in this forum directly, since people either need to agree or disagree and with the so many posts popping up bumping appears to be the only way to get an idea across before it's down on page 3.


Is this a good enough place for them to say?

Originally by: Eve Forum Rules, Rules of Conduct, Section 12
Spamming, bumping and pyramid quoting are prohibited...Bumping posts in order to keep them near the top of the list is also prohibited.


As it happens, you also broke the pyramid quoting rules(as well as the de facto rules of how to quote properly - seriously man, sticking your response *inside* quote tags?)

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
As for unpopularity, you have 1 for, 1 against, 70 viewers who didn't like it enough to thumbs-up or hate it enough to complain,
Sorry how does that effect the post, hell for all you know i could have just reloaded teh thread 70 times.


Possibly, and the number of actual readers is probably a lot lower than 72, though there's not exactly much debate to crank up the views counter. But still, one supporter? That's anemic.

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
and 500 who didn't even care enough to look.
Where do you get that number from?


The most popular thread on this board has 523 supports. It's older than yours, but it can't possibly have been supported by everybody to visit this forum. 500 is an approximation, but I don't think it's an invalid one.

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Since there's no actual way to express disapproval,
Not my issue m8, thats CCP's.


Agreed, but it contributes to the facts at hand.

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
I think apathy is a pretty decent indicator. Also, the word I used was "unpopular" - since there's certainly no popularity here, it qualifies in the proper definition as well as the implication.
What is to be considdered as popular ? personaly I'd love to see poeple post here saying it's a bad/good idea at least they will have a say, (CSM is all about that) but for a popularity thing, can't really give it that due to the fact there is no scale, hell if if someone posts an idea and gets 20k of replys is it popular, are them 20k of replys the same group fightign over details? is it 20k of diffrent players saying frack off to the OP, give me a scale here, at least something to work on. replys vs views can't be used as i'll just open a thread every thread and hold down F5.


I don't think there's any definition of popularity that will allow this thread to be considered. Comparison to the rest of the forum would seem the most natural baseline, which would mean anything with more than about 20 or 30 votes could at least claim to be relatively popular, but this doesn't even come close to that.

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Now please stop re-railing my thread


Actually, what I'm doing, unfortunately, is keeping this on the top page for you, and by non-spam tactics at that. As such, I'm not going to reply here again.

Mighty Ahti
Amarr
Posted - 2008.05.31 20:07:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Mighty Ahti on 31/05/2008 20:11:01
Not supported. I think you have just been dissed by an alt recently and like to think that if you knew his main you could kill him but probably couldn't.

Your thread has been derailed into rules of posting quotes and the toon you're arguing with is in fact correct. Regardless of whether or not you're allowed to bump on this forum, if the issue doesn't get much support before it washes off the front page it probably won't get much if you bump it.

Second, your topic is misleading/vague. Posting on the forums is a VERY general issue, you should make it more specific if you heaven forbid decide to try this again.

And lastly, it was up for 2 days, and you got one supporter and one against. In the next two days it's been up the threads been full of bickering and still no support given. It's obvious that nobody is interested but people don't bother to even voice their unsupport on this matter because the thread is just too silly.

Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.31 20:11:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Gone''Postal on 31/05/2008 20:18:33
Originally by: Mighty Ahti
Not supported. I think you have just been dissed by an alt recently and like to think that if you knew his main you could kill him but probably couldn't.




Not at all, My reason for this is pure and simple, the CSM is a joke and CCP have off loaded the forums onto the players, as everytime they post they get flamed to death, I personaly think that if the forums had more moderation then the CSm is not needed. being "dissed" by an alt is not a harsh thing for the guy being dissed, all it shows is the owner of the alt is to scared to post with the main.

But thank you for taking the time to vote.

Also Herschel Yamamoto

I CBA to go through you post and point out the things your right or wrong on, but I do stand corrected on a few things, and tbh i'd carry on replying your posts on some of your replys but that would not get us anywhere would it.Wink



 

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