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Aales Eae
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.05.28 06:49:00 - [1]
 

Midgath Stallsman wrote: Yup, I am a spy. I am the person that relayed intel to PL/GS during the 75FA offensive as well as other minor offensives. While GoonSwarm's Blackops crew was present in Fountain I worked with them to minimize their losses while make sure they inflicted the as much damage as possible. Before they came down I created a detailed white paper on BRUCE outlining your tactics, networks, and flaws. What makes it whole situation even better is I was giving your FCs the correct tactics to counter them, however due to their personal opinions of me they chose to ignore it. Instead they had you try to camp B170 for a week while you were just jumped around using a Widow.

The outing of Rodney Caston's alt, Lykash, was also my doing. Megatokyo is a horrible comic by the way.

A lot of you are going to ask "Why?Ē. When I initially joined BRUCE I was not a spy, I was legitimately kicked from GS. After a couple months of trying to give BRUCE a chance, fatal problems in how BRUCE operated became apparent. Worse yet, any attempt to correct these issues were met with strong opposition.

The reason BRUCE is will never hold conquerable 0.0 for a long period of time is due to one of your cornerstone attributes. Most of BRUCE is "casual gamers"; this group includes a large portion of your Reps and leadership. They do not have the time or will to survive in 0.0. The Council is the 2nd major reason BRUCE will continue to fail at living in conquerable 0.0. They are slow to react and want to be different. They donít realize you can be different in your ideals yet still field the same fleet/pos setups as every other major alliance in the game.

Due to how your council works it can take several days to more than a week for them to reach a quorum. This DOES NOT work in anything but times of peace, and we all know how rare peace is in any type of 0.0. Your council is also made up of people from failed alliances; they have learned nothing from their past experiences.

Every level of your organization is full of people having no clue how to do their job. A few people that knew what they were doing stood out. Namely, Fried and Kithaca, both of which are gone or leaving. While, I liked Fried he didn't have the strength to stand up to your council and make the decisions he knew was needed for BRUCE to survive in Fountain. For those of you upset with Fried leaving you can blame your CEOs and Directors. They forced him out of this alliance with their grandstanding and pride.

I am going to set a few things straight. PL initially set BRUCE neutral because of a lack of participation in a war that was going to decide your fate. The survival of BoB would ultimately cause the removal of BRUCE from 0.0. After it was clear that BRUCE had no intention of assisting in the removal of a mutual threat PL set BRUCE neutral and sent small gangs in to Fountain for entertainment. While they were in Fountain they noticed high end moons towered by people that were not even in the region. Moons not in BRUCEs claimed space were initially taken. Some attempts at diplomacy were made. Reasonable offers on PL's part were made and rejected by your leadership. Then 75FA happened. It became clear that BRUCE was not capable of standing against PL. PL started to obtain more and more moons, some towered by BRUCE and some not.

PL did not want to see BRUCE removed from Fountain as you could have been a useful ally, however it would be stupid of PL not to take every high end moon they could. The final offer was made and your leadership chooses to continue making the same mistakes rather than restructuring and getting your leadership in to modal that would work in 0.0. The council branded the offer as an agreement to be a "PL pet", which is not at all what it was. BRUCE would not be paying rent to PL, although some of you view moons PL took as rent. PL offered assistance in training existing current as well as new FCs.

Aales Eae
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.05.28 06:50:00 - [2]
 

This agreement required that the council be marginalized and only an advisory position, which is main reason the deal, was unacceptable to the reps.

PL's only interest is containing BoB with the intent of eventually removing them. You got in the way of this. Not only did you get in the way you did your best to continually be in the way. It appeared as if you wanted to keep Fountain warm for BoB to retake it. This is not something PL could allow happen, with our without your assistance.

Now that you are leaving Fountain and are no longer in a position to affect the war I will be going back to GoonSwarm.

At this point BRUCE is a dead man walking. If you honestly think after losing most of your PvP you are going to push Hazzah out of the PC9 area you are stupid. While Hazzah is not a PvP powerhouse they have a leg up on you in a lot of respects. They are strong enough to make taking their portion of Syndicate very difficult. Your best if you wish to continue being in 0.0 is you leave BRUCE and join other established alliances. You are leaving one fire and stepping in to another and you leadership is not prepared for it.

My avatar is a nice joke that no one ever caught. It is a picture of Ovid.

A few people I met along the way are incredibly stupid. These people include your entire Council(with the exception of a few people), Rodney Caston(next time don't confide in someone that came from the alliance you are spying on), Steph Wing(just a very ******ed RPer), Princess Guard(at least spell my name right when are going to call me an assface on your blog) and Jessica Luv(I told PL about her being uncloaked at the offline tower, also she was the one that recruited me out of the Recruitment channel).

I would also like to thank all the people that contracted me their stuff in the last couple days. I am already liquidating the valuable items.

Aales Eae
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.05.28 06:54:00 - [3]
 

Who is next in your holy crusade against people not attacking bob right now? MM? Pure? Get ready bob because p-l are coming for you Laughing

Havohej
Minmatar
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:03:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Havohej on 28/05/2008 07:16:39
First.

That's the kind of thing I joined this game for. Nice post.

Xan Viona
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:10:00 - [5]
 

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Attak
Minmatar
Trioptimum
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:14:00 - [6]
 

This is why I love (ex)goons.

Xaziar Nortocus
Gallente
Forces Unknown Inc
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:18:00 - [7]
 

Removed. Navigator

Repmaek
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:19:00 - [8]
 

Very Happy PL chestbeating mixed with a bit of PL being ****ed they didnt get the pets they wanted, trying to recover whatever BRUCE pilots they can?

Oh well.. in any case good luck when BoB and allies come rolling in.. Laughing

Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:22:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Aales Eae

At this point BRUCE is a dead man walking. If you honestly think after losing most of your PvP you are going to push Hazzah out of the PC9 area you are stupid. ...

You are leaving one fire and stepping in to another and you leadership is not prepared for it.




At least the poster got a couple of things right Wink, pity about the spelling! its HUZZAH! ffs

Butcher Bien
Amarr
Black Aces Mining Div
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:27:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Aales Eae
Get ready bob because p-l are coming for you Laughing


Oh no! PL are gonna setup in G-TT again and just camp the PR- to NOL gate! Its gonna be funny when they are trying to shoot BoB mining towers without any bandwagoneers around to hold their hands.

Kyrie Elaison
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:30:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Butcher Bien
Originally by: Aales Eae
Get ready bob because p-l are coming for you Laughing


Oh no! PL are gonna setup in G-TT again and just camp the PR- to NOL gate! Its gonna be funny when they are trying to shoot BoB mining towers without any bandwagoneers around to hold their hands.


Yeah, bob's k/d ratio goes to hell. I call that comedy.

Butcher Bien
Amarr
Black Aces Mining Div
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:38:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Yeah, bob's k/d ratio goes to hell. I call that comedy.


WTF are you talking about? Do you even think before you post or do you just randomly spout 2006 smack lines because you think it looks cool?

Worst poster in Goonswam? C/D? You're posting backbone? Didn't want that post anyway? rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

Kyrie Elaison
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:41:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Kyrie Elaison on 28/05/2008 07:42:40
Originally by: Butcher Bien
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Yeah, bob's k/d ratio goes to hell. I call that comedy.


WTF are you talking about? Do you even think before you post or do you just randomly spout 2006 smack lines because you think it looks cool?

Worst poster in Goonswam? C/D? You're posting backbone? Didn't want that post anyway? rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes


I'm sorry, Molle, you guys are the best. God forbid I mention I should ever intimate that anybody could get the better of you (loses 9-9).

Edit: Did I even type english? drunkest poster in goons atm? c/d? I'm going to go with a yes unless Tolon is awake.

thoth foc
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:42:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: Butcher Bien
Originally by: Aales Eae
Get ready bob because p-l are coming for you Laughing


Oh no! PL are gonna setup in G-TT again and just camp the PR- to NOL gate! Its gonna be funny when they are trying to shoot BoB mining towers without any bandwagoneers around to hold their hands.


Yeah, bob's k/d ratio goes to hell. I call that comedy.


quoting a goon making a serious k/d ratio poast!

Kyrie Elaison
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:43:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: Butcher Bien
Originally by: Aales Eae
Get ready bob because p-l are coming for you Laughing


Oh no! PL are gonna setup in G-TT again and just camp the PR- to NOL gate! Its gonna be funny when they are trying to shoot BoB mining towers without any bandwagoneers around to hold their hands.


Yeah, bob's k/d ratio goes to hell. I call that comedy.


quoting a goon making a serious k/d ratio poast!


Quoting Dice not getting a joke ITT.

thoth foc
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:46:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: thoth foc on 28/05/2008 07:46:45
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Quoting Dice not getting a joke ITT.


Joke's are meant to be funny.. that was just boring..

edit: in all fairness you could still be trying to the funny i guess.. -4/10 for effort, please try harder

Wednesday Sheffield
Amarr
Shadow Incursion
Shadows Incursion
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:46:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Aales Eae
Who is next in your holy crusade against people not attacking bob right now? MM? Pure? Get ready bob because p-l are coming for you Laughing
If you were not attacking their enemies what reason would an elite pvp organization have had for keeping you blue when your alliance had over two thousand easy to gank idiots?

Kyrie Elaison
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:47:00 - [18]
 

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Butcher Bien
Amarr
Black Aces Mining Div
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:48:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Kyrie Elaison

I'm sorry, Molle, you guys are the best. God forbid I mention I should ever intimate that anybody could get the better of you (loses 9-9).


Wait. So you're saying BoB k/d ratio goes to hell because someone attacks them and then you cite 9-9? Wow. hi5 bro

Kyrie Elaison
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:50:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Kyrie Elaison on 28/05/2008 07:55:21
Originally by: Butcher Bien
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison

I'm sorry, Molle, you guys are the best. God forbid I mention I should ever intimate that anybody could get the better of you (loses 9-9).


Wait. So you're saying BoB k/d ratio goes to hell because someone attacks them and then you cite 9-9? Wow. hi5 bro



:facepalm:

Edit: sadly, I feel the need to explain since I'm confusing you and mr. dice. See, you smacked PL about fighting bob. I made a joke, which I understand is hard for :downs: to understand, about k/d ratios. PL without allies, namely us, would have a better k/d ratio because all we do is die. It really pains me to have to explain this, as it's a joke on my own team, but, frankly, you couldn't find your ass with both hands. I hope this clears up your confusion.

thoth foc
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
Posted - 2008.05.28 07:59:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: thoth foc on 28/05/2008 07:58:41
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Quoting Dice not getting a joke ITT.


Joke's are meant to be funny.. that was just boring..


Or you're stupid. Guess my wager.


You are betting that if you now tell everyone it was meant be some sort of "joke" that ppl just dont "get".. you'll win brownie points with all you little buddies.. cause you have "made" someone reply to you in a forum.. and you'll be an uber l337 troll guru..

accurate enough?

Kyrie Elaison
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.28 08:03:00 - [22]
 

Pyramid quote removed. Navigator

Doctor Green
Minmatar
Boris Technica
Posted - 2008.05.28 10:08:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Doctor Green on 28/05/2008 10:09:11
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison


Edit: it's been a hoot, but it's bedtime. Don't feel bad, I know you're only in Dice because Black Eclipse rejected you. :(


I tought he was in DICE because goonfleet rejected him... C/D?

Ghaelsto Kakram
Minmatar
Mindgamers
Posted - 2008.05.28 10:17:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: thoth foc
You are betting that if you now tell everyone it was meant be some sort of "joke" that ppl just dont "get".. you'll win brownie points with all you little buddies.. cause you have "made" someone reply to you in a forum.. and you'll be an uber l337 troll guru..

accurate enough?

You still don't 'get' goons do ya? Or PL or even BRUCE for that matter.
Just try to keep up and read some more COAD and who knows you might actually get a clue.

PartyPopper
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.28 10:49:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Aales Eae
Now that you are leaving Fountain and are no longer in a position to affect the war I will be going back to GoonSwarm.


please god no

sakana
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.28 11:04:00 - [26]
 

You are either with us, or against us.


Tholarim
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.05.28 11:09:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Tholarim on 28/05/2008 11:09:28
lol cloaking zealots.

edit: couldn't spell 3 words right the first time Neutral

Carin K
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.28 11:10:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
Edited by: Tholarim on 28/05/2008 11:09:28
lol cloaking zealots.

edit: couldn't spell 3 words right the first time Neutral


ure just jealous thol, je-a-l-ous

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2008.05.28 11:17:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Gneeznow on 28/05/2008 11:20:17
Originally by: Aales Eae
Who is next in your holy crusade against people not attacking bob right now? MM? Pure? Get ready bob because p-l are coming for you Laughing


I'm coming for you, and I'm coming in hot (for you) ♫

Originally by: Tholarim
Edited by: Tholarim on 28/05/2008 11:09:28
lol cloaking zealots.

edit: couldn't spell 3 words right the first time Neutral


I put 2 kinds of cloaks on my muninn, it has the cpu for both a prototype and an improved, so I can offline the prototype and overload my improved cloak I cloak even harder

Shadoo
Gallente
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.28 11:28:00 - [30]
 

It is obvious this post is counter-intel spin.

Everyone knows, as Slinktress exposed weeks back, that it was in fact Band of Brothers leadership who control Goonfleet that contracted PL to soften up Fountain for a bloodless takeover by our new overlords. This plan is now in full swing, with Y-2 already captured without a fight.

In the coming weeks -- you will see all outposts in Fountain convert over to our masters control without a fight. Sure, there will be some token efforts and few POSes blown up here and there to make killboards believable -- but Slinktress has shown us the truth! The killboards are hacked after all.

Also -- lol spy. Everyone knows PL just hacked the BRUCE Vent server to allow us to stream all their channels in MP3 over the interwebs without ever having a person there. Just like we hacked their forums to allow our master, SirMolle post his messages there.

Good effort @ spin thou.


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