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Larkonis Trassler
Doctrine.
Posted - 2008.05.29 01:06:00 - [151]
 

Edited by: Larkonis Trassler on 29/05/2008 01:07:10
Edited by: Larkonis Trassler on 29/05/2008 01:06:51
Myth: Nano Pilots can engage missile ships and turret ships with impunity.

FACT: With the exception of a few nano ships (Crow, Cerb, Ishtar) all nano ships must slow down their orbits to use their weapons effectively on their targets. Holy transversal batman! Does this mean that the target could possible hit the nanoship too? I think so! If I engage a Drake or Cruise Raven in a belt in my vaga I know within about 30 seconds if I'm able to kill him. Vs turret ships it is usually the same. Pilots often die because they only have one type of ammo with them. Null, Barrage and Scorch are your friends. Time your volleys to when the pilot disengages his MWD and you are going to drive him off.

Myth: Nanoships can Permarun their MWDs points and guns

FACT: Very few setups are capable of this. Crow springs to mind and certain HACs and Recons IF they fit a cap booster, cap charges take up room and run out eventually. Gunships have to turn off their MWDs to shoot (see above)

Myth: Nanoships do uber dps.

FACT: Most nanoships struggle to break decent DPS, exception being the Ishtar and you can just kill><or his drones. Don't start EFTing on me. Nanoships have to, and will fight in falloff, thus cutting their DPS to <3/4 of what EFT says.

Myth: Nanoships are easy to fly.

FACT: You try fighting an enemy gang either solo or with gang mates and trying to stay out of web range of 2+ hostiles who actually have a clue while keeping the primary scrammed, and within decent range/transversal of your guns.
Pretty damn tricky.

I go roaming a lot in a nanoship either solo or as part of a gang. Not as much as I used to. It usually boils down to this:
3/10 times: Target will not be engaged, you will not even see us on grid.
3/10 times: Target will be engaged, tank/damage will be too good or backup will get there in time. Will see it on scanner and bug out. Disengaged.
3.5/10 times: Congratulations! Target is a noob. He has a sucky fit or he panics and doesn't manage his cap properly.
0.5/10 times: Blarg am dead. Pilot was smart and used heat, I made a mistake, he had a good fit or a tarp was sprung properly. Enjoy my loots!

If you are upset by the amount I can disengage. Well this is SKIRMISH warfare afterall. And it is no different to some of the RR BS gangs I have fought at gates who spider tank each other until agro wears off and then are able to jump out, something I am seeing more and more in lowsec. We kill one or two of them, they kill one or two of us and GTFO. Noone complains about this. And before you come up with some sort of rebuff about 0.0, how much fighting there happens away from gates, stations or a POS bubble, practically zero.

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2008.05.29 02:38:00 - [152]
 

Battleclinic loadout told them to.

agent apple
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.29 02:53:00 - [153]
 

6 Page translation for the lazy:

Dear ACME, traps keep failing, please nerf roadrunner

Trathen
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.05.29 04:30:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: agent apple
6 Page translation for the lazy:

Dear ACME, traps keep failing, please nerf roadrunner


Now what do you do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJJW7EF5aVk

LongHong Dong
Posted - 2008.05.29 16:42:00 - [155]
 

CCP will not comment on the nano issue.

They do not want to **** of the majority of their playerbase that suck at flying anything other than nanofit ships.

Euriti
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.29 16:44:00 - [156]
 

Edited by: Euriti on 29/05/2008 16:44:33
Originally by: LongHong Dong
CCP will not comment on the nano issue.

They do not want to **** of the majority of their playerbase that suck at flying anything other than nanofit ships.


You have a l2p issue.

Yes, now I'm comming with snide remarks because you have done nothing but come with bad arguments and bad solutions through this entire thread (which is **** btw and should never be posted)

LongHong Dong
Posted - 2008.05.29 16:45:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Euriti
Edited by: Euriti on 29/05/2008 16:44:33
Originally by: LongHong Dong
CCP will not comment on the nano issue.

They do not want to **** of the majority of their playerbase that suck at flying anything other than nanofit ships.


You have a l2p issue.

Yes, now I'm comming with snide remarks because you have done nothing but come with bad arguments and bad solutions through this entire thread (which is **** btw and should never be posted)



And wtf are you offering to the discussion?

LED R0BSTER
Posted - 2008.05.29 17:52:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: Nikita Alterana
just like you can't armor tank a raven



Cant armor tank a raven ? If you had the skills you could, and you'd have ALL those lovely mid slots FREE FREE FREE :) Try it, you'll never shield tank a raven again. noob.

LongHong Dong
Posted - 2008.05.29 19:30:00 - [159]
 

I am glad Nanos are getting another nerf.

Amastat
Caldari
Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.29 19:35:00 - [160]
 

Edited by: Amastat on 29/05/2008 19:35:18
Originally by: LongHong Dong
I am glad Nanos are getting another nerf.


They are?

I mean really in all seriousness, link please. Smile

LongHong Dong
Posted - 2008.05.29 19:59:00 - [161]
 

Please do not spam the forums. ~Saint

Nightsheir
Posted - 2008.05.29 20:35:00 - [162]
 

The problem is not just game inbalance .
Many people have different opinions , while this is the only place we can talk about things and share our ideas spottings , just when you write something . A person reads half of your post and jumps in with his own purpose to ruin it all and to turn the thread into a kindergarden fighter arena.

Lets accept some facts.
When you want to determine if something is imbalanced or not , you start with first step. And slowly advance.

First of all, eve is not a pvp game . This means, any balance issue is to be considered looking the game from far above. Counting in all the capital ships , fighter ships , logistics , everything .

And nano ships DO serve a role, which is being fast assault ships to spear into alliance territory . But that being said, does not mean any ship should be capable of doing it SOLO . It ruins the purpose of having different ships for different roles . Different resists for different weapons.

Speed is a succesful omni tank , we are in an eve age that omni tank is considered very powerful, and if you have a succesful omni tank, its off the grid . Coupled with enough dps & tracking to kill most encounters , point scrambling them as a plus and running off when in need is overkill . Its the explanation of pvp with one ship , which eve strived not to have .

Now it has , thats why it will be looked at.

Euriti
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.29 20:36:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: LongHong Dong
Originally by: Euriti
Edited by: Euriti on 29/05/2008 16:44:33
Originally by: LongHong Dong
CCP will not comment on the nano issue.

They do not want to **** of the majority of their playerbase that suck at flying anything other than nanofit ships.


You have a l2p issue.

Yes, now I'm comming with snide remarks because you have done nothing but come with bad arguments and bad solutions through this entire thread (which is **** btw and should never be posted)



And wtf are you offering to the discussion?


Way more than you ever will.


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