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Karanth
Gallente
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2008.05.24 07:56:00 - [1]
 

I think we need more uses for shares. Right now, they are clumsy, slow, and aside from a few functions, are mostly worthless.

A few ideas:

Exclamation Allow dividends issued via shares to consist of ISK, minerals, or ore. Much faster than having to create a large number of separate stacks of items for distribution.

Exclamation A long time ago, people could take ISK from the wallet, and make it into an item like any other. I'd like to see that ability returned, and add shares to the list of things that can be turned into items, and placed back into the wallet.

Exclamation Following from the last item, allow shares to be placed on contract or be traded like other items. Right now, buying/selling shares isn't possible; you trade money first, then get shares later.

Exclamation Non-voting shares that can't receive dividends. Having these would allow people to keep track of any votes held, without needing to create a pile of alts to join each corporation.

Just a few ideas. I know people will have more ideas, and I want to know if people think that shares need a boost, or not.

Xanja
2H Industries

Posted - 2008.05.24 13:20:00 - [2]
 

traded shares

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.05.24 13:28:00 - [3]
 

I will be looking to try and get these things onto our agenda.

Zaepho
Gallente
Phoenix Propulsion Labs
Omega Vector
Posted - 2008.05.24 16:56:00 - [4]
 

Tradeable/contractable shares preferably with some form of audit log.

Piitaq
Gallente
19th Star Logistics
Posted - 2008.05.24 21:01:00 - [5]
 

Some kind of stock exchange system would be nice.

Investing your ISKs in corporations you would think is going well.

Industrial wars, buying votes in the competitors company, or even buying the whole corporation through the majority of shares.

It could lead to a whole new mini career opportunity.

Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.24 21:16:00 - [6]
 

This has a keen eye of interest from both LaVista Vista and myself.
Suggestions on mechanics very welcome.

Fraszoid
Caldari
Healthcare for Space Hermits
Posted - 2008.05.25 02:36:00 - [7]
 

Pay dividends on issued share, rather than authorized. I could go into more depth about more preferred shares, non-voting, and much more, but just adjusting how dividends are paid is my main concern.

BlondieBC
Minmatar
Galactic Exploration and Missions
Posted - 2008.05.25 02:59:00 - [8]
 

All these ideas are good. especially the exchange.


Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.25 04:35:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Karanth
I think we need more uses for shares. Right now, they are clumsy, slow, and aside from a few functions, are mostly worthless.

A few ideas:

Exclamation Allow dividends issued via shares to consist of ISK, minerals, or ore. Much faster than having to create a large number of separate stacks of items for distribution.

Exclamation A long time ago, people could take ISK from the wallet, and make it into an item like any other. I'd like to see that ability returned, and add shares to the list of things that can be turned into items, and placed back into the wallet.

Exclamation Following from the last item, allow shares to be placed on contract or be traded like other items. Right now, buying/selling shares isn't possible; you trade money first, then get shares later.

Exclamation Non-voting shares that can't receive dividends. Having these would allow people to keep track of any votes held, without needing to create a pile of alts to join each corporation.

Just a few ideas. I know people will have more ideas, and I want to know if people think that shares need a boost, or not.


I'm not an optimist about the potential for shares - as a rule, they're too heavily under outside control for the level of use of RL shares. There's no minority shareholder rights and no SEC, and neither will exist unless the entire guiding principles of Eve are overthrown at some point in the future. That said, there's no reason for what possibilities do exist to be artificially stunted by a lack of options, and these changes look like intelligent add-ons to the system to better allow players access to what functionality does exist. As long as nobody's expecting the result to look like the Dow Jones, this would be a great batch of fixes to make.

Slickdrac
Minmatar
M Takumi Research and Production
East Empire Trade Federation
Posted - 2008.05.25 06:49:00 - [10]
 

I would like a way to get shares back from inactive players. My thoughts on how to work it are as such,

Person A pays x dollars per share, thru some kind of share interface trade deal.
Person A plays, and as dividends are payed out, Person A gets those dividends.
(here's where I have two Ideas)
Person A has not logged it for 30 days, dividends go to be payed out, but person A receives nothing.
(option B)
Person A has not logged on for 30 days, his shares are now available to be bought back by the corp at the same price that they paid for them thru the corp's shares menu.

Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.29 09:45:00 - [11]
 

Created separate issue for trading shares.


Czanthria
Caldari
Faction Innovations

Posted - 2008.05.30 05:14:00 - [12]
 



 

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