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Amarr
Viziam

Posted - 2008.06.16 19:01:00 - [151]
 

/signed. Seemed cool, and its the best alternative I've heard to the current broken mechanic.

Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.06.16 19:08:00 - [152]
 

CSM has raised this issue to CCP now.
Please keep discussing, although voting is no longer necessary to bring it to CCP.

Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific
Posted - 2008.06.16 20:23:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: Serenity Steele
CSM has raised this issue to CCP now.
Please keep discussing, although voting is no longer necessary to bring it to CCP.


You guys did? I did not see it under the Topics dicussed - must have missed it. I was actually going to get upset and start shouting, and here you are coming in and actually giving us proper information! Damn it! Laughing

Thank you.
Please keep us updated as to the progress.

Destoration
Amarr
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.16 23:02:00 - [154]
 

/signed
If ccp were to go with this example then it would definatly work better if you remove the bubble and simply have HP like every other station.


Orb Lati
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.06.17 01:52:00 - [155]
 

While I love the design there is several points that would concern me regarding implementation.

1.) Transition between the current POS system and the moduler format proposed.
The last thing we would want is CCP to say... "ok those old POS mods are now scrapped and useless. To those people/alliances who have spend billions on the POS infrastructure...tough"

2.) POS protection of friendly fleets while still allowing non-protection of aggressive POS moduals (possibly already discussed)

3.) POS assembly interface.

Brachis
Caldari
Eve Liberation Force
OWN Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.17 10:11:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Orb Lati

1.) Transition between the current POS system and the moduler format proposed.
The last thing we would want is CCP to say... "ok those old POS mods are now scrapped and useless. To those people/alliances who have spend billions on the POS infrastructure...tough"



I think that, if implemented intelligently, this could be mitigated somewhat. Most of the idea presented revolves around changing the visual representation of the PoS and its components.

After an update which changed this feature of the station, I believe that existing PoS modules and components would simply remain in space where they are, fully functional within the standards of current PoS mechanics.

PoS managers could then re-assign locations for those modules using the new placement interface which snaps the pieces together, which doesn't put the PoS very much at risk, doesn't cause the players to lose assets, and doesn't force the managers to rush around reassigning PoS positions.

Molock Saronen
Posted - 2008.06.17 13:33:00 - [157]
 


Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.06.17 14:41:00 - [158]
 

Very much supported!

Mika Katon
Gallente
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2008.06.17 17:53:00 - [159]
 

Signed.

Jokus Balim
Minmatar
Capital Destruction
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2008.06.17 21:12:00 - [160]
 

Sweet! Very Happy

Nolo Contendere
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.06.17 23:15:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: Serenity Steele
CSM has raised this issue to CCP now.
Please keep discussing, although voting is no longer necessary to bring it to CCP.


Good to hear, now lets see when it actually takes place. Fully support the implementation of the idea.

Atreus Danerun
Amarr
Caldari Bank
Posted - 2008.06.17 23:16:00 - [162]
 

o/ Thumbs Up.

Zaran Darkstar
Divine Slaves

Posted - 2008.06.18 03:14:00 - [163]
 

Great idea! Even if it comes from a BoB member
Supported! Very Happy

Thunderbird Anthares
ISK Reliability Inc.
Inver Brass
Posted - 2008.06.18 13:03:00 - [164]
 

FINALLY
seems like we have a dawn of new era here Very Happy

lpha centurion
Confrerie des ombres
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.18 13:06:00 - [165]
 

/signed, as I said, that's an excellent idea Very Happy

Futchmacht
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2008.06.23 10:01:00 - [166]
 

i like it!!

Current pos's suck.. thats why people are building so many outposts.

Esiel
Renegade Serenity
Posted - 2008.06.23 22:46:00 - [167]
 

Ok thank you for taking this to CCP now can someone please tell us something about it, what did they say, whats going on with it anything.

Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.

Posted - 2008.06.24 15:00:00 - [168]
 

Yes.

Tribalist
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2008.06.24 15:01:00 - [169]
 

Dead horse for the win!

Wolf Soldier
Minmatar
Griefer-B-Gone
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.06.26 14:57:00 - [170]
 


SickSeven
Simplistic Syndicate
Posted - 2008.06.26 15:08:00 - [171]
 

awesome design!

Tempest Inferno
Davy Jones Locker

Posted - 2008.06.26 20:08:00 - [172]
 

Please work this idea into the pos system, just make sure you notify everyone that has a pos up right now that they will need to rebuild it Smile

Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific
Posted - 2008.06.29 21:16:00 - [173]
 

So what happened, what did CCP say when CSM put this idea forward to them? I understand that a meeting between CSM and CCP has taken place and this was discussed - any encouragement as to the fulfillment of this?

SniperWo1f
Rage of Inferno
Minor Threat.
Posted - 2008.06.30 06:15:00 - [174]
 

/el signo el posto

Mesuno
Azure Horizon

Posted - 2008.06.30 12:07:00 - [175]
 

signed etc.. and supported. What was the verdict from CCP when it was discussed?

Annacron Adaptive
Posted - 2008.06.30 14:56:00 - [176]
 

/signed

the current "oh why look at that funny needle in a bubble with thingys floating around it apparently teleporting minerals/materaials/ships between each other" system, i mean it's a universe thousands of years into the future, i think ppl in that world could build somewhat nicer more logical looking things then the current pos'es

DuAel
Aeden

Posted - 2008.07.02 06:42:00 - [177]
 

Oh yeah !

Trabber Shir
Caldari
5I Incorporated

Posted - 2008.07.05 12:24:00 - [178]
 

I definitely support. I saw my first POS a couple weeks ago, I thought I was looking at some type of debris field until I actually clicked on the big thing in the middle and it said Caldari Control Tower.

However, I also think it might be best to implement this as a supplement to the current system rather than forcing such a major change all of a sudden. For example CCP might stop seeding the blueprints for the old style and introduce the new style with distinct benefits to promote a voluntary and gradual change, or as has already been suggested here and in the original thread make this design of POS cheaper with defensive drawbacks and leave them both in existence.

I have been in other MMOs when they made sudden massive changes to major game systems and it never goes well(an especially bad case was Star Wars galaxies shortly before the releases of their first two expansions).

Morcam
Posted - 2008.07.05 18:44:00 - [179]
 

100% agree. I saw this a while back and thought it was the greatest thing ever.

MarleWH
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.05 20:02:00 - [180]
 

rgr


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