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Mavolio
Viziam

Posted - 2008.05.22 22:31:00 - [121]
 

Not reason other than to make things slightly more simple, should keep the 30 day and 90 day in order to give ppl a choice on how long they want to play.

Kalmi HUN
Posted - 2008.05.22 22:34:00 - [122]
 

/signed

Tzuko1
Minmatar
The All-Seeing Eye
Atlas.
Posted - 2008.05.22 22:35:00 - [123]
 

/signed

Neo Merchant
Posted - 2008.05.22 22:38:00 - [124]
 

/signed

Aurellien
Caldari
PsyCorp
Dirt Nap Associates
Posted - 2008.05.22 22:49:00 - [125]
 

/signed

Ehronn
Caldari
Nutz N Boltz

Posted - 2008.05.22 22:52:00 - [126]
 

Please keep the options for 30 day gtc's available.

/signed

Elstar
Caldari
REUNI0N
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.05.22 22:54:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Elstar on 22/05/2008 22:54:24
signed

my friends for who i buy gtc should say NO too.

SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks

Posted - 2008.05.22 22:56:00 - [128]
 

If it was 10% increase in cost I wouldn't care. But 35%.. What is going to happen when people start dropping their alt accounts because they don't want to dish out an extra $30 per account, remember that's $209.94 a year for 60 day GTCs.

Or is this just a ploy to get more people to hand over credit card information? I see the cost of GTC's go up, but it mentions NOTHING about credit card charges..

Are we all going to start seeing Credit Card prices go up as well?

For those of you that want to see the current credit card prices its as followed.

1 Month - $14.95 (USD)
3 Months - $38.85 (USD)
6 Months - $71.70 (USD)
12 Months - $131.40 (USD)

Lets see - 6 Months of the new GTC is 3x$34.95 = $104.97 that's 46.40% MORE then using Credit Card.. And if you did it for a year - 6x$34.95 = 59.59% more.. Shockedugh

Nice scam CCP - Forcing people to hand over re-occurring Credit card information to save 60% a year. We all know there is a nice thing about credit card information.. You see people are more willing to continue to subscribe with CC vs GTC, also you probably can predict income levels a lot more.

And to the guy that say $2.50 a month is NOTHING. You're right, but think of this. That $2.50 a month over.. 222,422 Eligible Votes (Numbers given from CCP, these are subscribers - minus those who where ineligible to vote) that's $556,055 USD a month and $6,672,660 USD a YEAR MORE then what it is now.

Are we planning EVE-II already? Or are you just going to milk EVE's players for your next MMO game? Will this new MMO be of any relation to EVE, will EVE people LIKE to play it.

Get some venture capital and make a new game, don't force players of this game to fund a new one.

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.05.22 23:01:00 - [129]
 

Edited by: James Lyrus on 22/05/2008 23:11:41
Edited by: James Lyrus on 22/05/2008 23:04:28
Published subscription rates are:
1 Month, €14.95 = 23.5119USD (14.95EUR/month)
3 Month, €38.85 = 61.0995USD (12.95EUR/month)
6 Month, €71.70 = 112.774USD (11.95EUR/month)
12 Months, €131.40 = 206.674USD. (10.95EUR/month)

60 day codes, at $34.99 is 22.25EUR. Or 11.125EUR/month. E.g. Cheaper than every regularly paying customer who's not paying annually.

As the repeat billing of a credit card is less likely to lead to subscription gaps, I feel that this rate adjustment STILL leaves GTCs as too cheap.

Edit: I've just spotted the above post, quoting price in Euros vs. Price in dollars. I'd like to propose that CCP move to one currency for their billing, to prevent having European customers subsidising US customers.

SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
Posted - 2008.05.22 23:07:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: James Lyrus
1 Month, 14.95 = 23.5119USD (14.95EUR/month)
3 Month, 38.85 = 61.0995USD (12.95EUR/month)
6 Month, 71.70 = 112.774USD (11.95EUR/month)
12 Months, 131.40 = 206.674USD. (10.95EUR/month)


If your credit card screen says "131.40" then we have a larger issue here. Because mine says "$131.40 USD"

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.05.22 23:09:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: James Lyrus
1 Month, €14.95 = 23.5119USD (14.95EUR/month)
3 Month, €38.85 = 61.0995USD (12.95EUR/month)
6 Month, €71.70 = 112.774USD (11.95EUR/month)
12 Months, €131.40 = 206.674USD. (10.95EUR/month)


If your credit card screen says "€131.40" then we have a larger issue here. Because mine says "$131.40 USD"


Indeed:
http://www.eve-online.com/faq/faq_08.asp

Price in EUR == Price in USD.

Which given current exchange rates, means one's very definitely more favourable than the other. It makes sense why the GTC price shifted, but still leaves a heftily discounted option.

Slistine Death
Sons of Angelus Mortis

Posted - 2008.05.22 23:13:00 - [132]
 

Edited by: Slistine Death on 23/05/2008 22:00:58
/signed

Zytrel
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.

Posted - 2008.05.22 23:13:00 - [133]
 

Yes please, I'm too lazy to get a new GTC every 60 days (as opposed to 90)! Very Happy

SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
Posted - 2008.05.22 23:21:00 - [134]
 

Edited by: SencneS on 22/05/2008 23:22:51
Originally by: James Lyrus
Which given current exchange rates, means one's very definitely more favorable than the other. It makes sense why the GTC price shifted, but still leaves a heftily discounted option.


If they keep their current pricing scheme it will be $34.99 USD and 34.99 Euro.

It doesn't change anything, just makes them more expensive.

Edit - Removed questionable information.

Kivin San
Damage Unlimited Inc
INTERDICTION
Posted - 2008.05.22 23:21:00 - [135]
 


Sal Alo
Minmatar
Pane e Panelle
Posted - 2008.05.22 23:32:00 - [136]
 

Agree with OP.

CCP don't raise up ETC's prices, you CCP are rich...

I'M NOT

teh punisher
Suddenly Ninjas

Posted - 2008.05.22 23:39:00 - [137]
 

It really is outrageous that they threw this upon us.

/signed

Mistress Althea
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.05.22 23:39:00 - [138]
 

signed

Farrqua
Minmatar
In Igne Morim

Posted - 2008.05.22 23:40:00 - [139]
 

Seems to be an arbitrary blast from CCP for a game that they have not entirely have functioning properly. We are still dealing with issues that we have been waiting for them to address and fix for the last 5 years or so.

Increasing the cost of a game that is not preforming as promised does not make a lot of sense.

I have no issue with maintaining your profit margins, I myself run and own a company. I can not in good faith go to my customers and ask them to cough up more cash for a product that is not working as promised.

Yareko Taguichi
Posted - 2008.05.22 23:49:00 - [140]
 

Now I cant long train skills anymore

Billy Merc
Viziam

Posted - 2008.05.22 23:58:00 - [141]
 

/signed

Thsi change will not effect me so much, but has limiting factors i think are not fair ie. allowing GTC sellers to monopolise the market and dictate the the price of playing eve with ISK which is fuxin outrageous.

cimmaron
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.05.23 00:05:00 - [142]
 

signed

Qwert0
Posted - 2008.05.23 00:12:00 - [143]
 

Don't try to be sneaky with math when the playerbase has been known to make spreadsheets for fun.
/sign

BillyBong2
Amarr
3OO
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2008.05.23 00:15:00 - [144]
 

My only issues with CCP is making the statement to attune with industry standards.

I just got back from best buy and there were 30 and 90 day GTCs available in the gaming section. So, I am not entirely sure where the new industry standard is.

Frecator Dementa
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.05.23 00:29:00 - [145]
 

/signed

Oriana Cain
Posted - 2008.05.23 00:30:00 - [146]
 

/signed

Wadaya
Trailerpark Industries
Posted - 2008.05.23 00:31:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: BillyBong2
My only issues with CCP is making the statement to attune with industry standards.

I just got back from best buy and there were 30 and 90 day GTCs available in the gaming section. So, I am not entirely sure where the new industry standard is.


It's all a ploy to help Sharkbait with his beer tab.

Deathtouche
Posted - 2008.05.23 00:50:00 - [148]
 

/signed

Cedik
Posted - 2008.05.23 01:00:00 - [149]
 

I'm a new subscriber, on the Mac client. I was impressed with the scope and flexibility this game has to offer, but was on the fence to committing because of the problems I have experienced (and read about on the boards) with the OS X client. When I saw that you could buy ETCs for under $39 for a 90 day subscription it was easier to accept those application issues, so I subscribed.

If this news was announced two days ago, I would have never subscribed. If this new plan continues, I will certainly not continue to subscribe (unless, by chance, they release a rock solid, native Mac client). I suppose I'm lucky to get in when I did. Seems like a really fun game.

Zeknichov
Life. Universe. Everything.

Posted - 2008.05.23 01:00:00 - [150]
 

Frankly I don't think anyone would be upset or surprised if CCP said they are raising prices due to the falling American $. But to try and mask an obvious price hike and then remove the options of 30 day and 90 day GTCs is appalling.


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