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brittany england
Posted - 2008.07.25 22:57:00 - [961]
 

signed this is not acceptable way to increase prices while not increaseing server performance. ive been playing for yrs and have several accounts and all of them will be offline monday. i wont be back for some time its just not worth the isk to pay for this game.yes i said isk because ive been paying with isk for the last year to play now. with these changes i cant afford it and my gtc supplier wont bye the new 60 day ones and if he did there just not worth the isk that there asking for them. i will be back but it will take some time so my 3 accounts will go inactive for the time being. goodluck in there adventures and letts hope something comes from this brittany england signing out

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2008.07.26 07:06:00 - [962]
 

Originally by: brittany england
signed this is not acceptable way to increase prices while not increaseing server performance. ive been playing for yrs and have several accounts and all of them will be offline monday. i wont be back for some time its just not worth the isk to pay for this game.yes i said isk because ive been paying with isk for the last year to play now. with these changes i cant afford it and my gtc supplier wont bye the new 60 day ones and if he did there just not worth the isk that there asking for them. i will be back but it will take some time so my 3 accounts will go inactive for the time being. goodluck in there adventures and letts hope something comes from this brittany england signing out


train a long skill Very Happy

and they have been working on server performance quite a bit actually. if you have better ideas for how to do it you should apply for a job.

medea betencore
Gallente
Mineral Monkey
Posted - 2008.07.31 07:34:00 - [963]
 

/signed

This change has forced one of my three accounts into expiration. I cant play with currency only ISK, and the ISK cost increase has forced me to lose an account as I do not make enough extra ISK to cover it.

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2008.07.31 09:06:00 - [964]
 

Edited by: Sylthi on 31/07/2008 09:07:27
So CCP tells the CSM and us, the players, that a price increase is not within the pervue of the CSM.... I guess that is a little nicer than CCP saying "STFU plebs! Pay it and like it!" But, the end result is the same isn't it?

What I find extremely telling about this issue is CCP's unwillingness to talk about it or even ALLOW discussion of the topic. To me, this translates to they are screwing us, they KNOW they are screwing us, and they don't even feel obligated to admit it. Talk about learning in no-uncertain terms where you stand with a company....

Oh, for the record, I support the OP and a full disclosure of this subject by CCP. I also fully support and request a return of further options to the GTC. I.E. 30 day, 90 day, 120 day... etc. Not that we are going to get any of these things. After over five years I am fully aware that CCP is NOT in the business of keeping their customers happy or of being responsible to them in any way.

Support.

Berendas
Posted - 2008.07.31 16:04:00 - [965]
 

This topic deserves CSM/dev attention.

fried eggs
Caldari
Posted - 2008.08.02 14:36:00 - [966]
 

One account expired Thursday. 2 more to go. CCP: Please fix this mistake ASAP.

DaemonExodus
Sleeper Industries
Posted - 2008.08.03 05:09:00 - [967]
 

supported

Clueless Alt
Posted - 2008.08.03 19:10:00 - [968]
 

blah

Thorin Quinn
Caldari
Dominion Gaming
Posted - 2008.08.04 12:15:00 - [969]
 

i vote yes Please put them back please 30s atleast

Kryttos
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.07 22:16:00 - [970]
 

Signed

squiddie
Caldari
Times of Ancar
sengaku-ji followers
Posted - 2008.08.07 23:09:00 - [971]
 

Need 90-Days Neutral

Rogue Wing
Gallente
Azn Empire
Posted - 2008.08.08 02:19:00 - [972]
 

Oh for god's sake, fix it.

Aenikus
Gallente
Kingfisher Industries
Posted - 2008.08.08 10:14:00 - [973]
 

So we know the industry standard excuse was so much BS, it was just a price hike, as the CSM found out in their meeting.

We know the it is too expensive for CCP to have more than one type of card is nonsense since the Japanese now get 50 day cards.

So CCP stop being corporate speak buffoons and deliver choice to your customers through a variety of card types:

30, 60, 90 and even 180 or 360 cards and bring back the old dollar prices.

Guyon Angevin
Posted - 2008.08.08 10:24:00 - [974]
 

Yes we get so much marketing BS from CCP about reasons for only having one type of card then they the Japanese 50 day cards.

Are CCP too stupid to see the irony of this decions after all the nonsense they have told the CSM and the players about the cards.

Be a good service company CCP and give us, YOUR CUSTOMERS, GTC choice.

Andreya
Red Federation

Posted - 2008.08.09 04:51:00 - [975]
 


Iluminat
Minmatar
Sharp Dressed Man
Posted - 2008.08.11 07:16:00 - [976]
 

Signed


Damned Force
Minmatar
Republic Military School

Posted - 2008.08.11 07:22:00 - [977]
 

Originally by: Guyon Angevin
Yes we get so much marketing BS from CCP about reasons for only having one type of card then they the Japanese 50 day cards.

Are CCP too stupid to see the irony of this decions after all the nonsense they have told the CSM and the players about the cards.

Be a good service company CCP and give us, YOUR CUSTOMERS, GTC choice.


THIS

ScaryMary
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
Posted - 2008.08.11 11:18:00 - [978]
 

i dont know why ccp think it is acceptable to rise prices when they still have ****ty laggy battles in eve

imo fix the lag, then rise the prices not the otherway around

Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2008.08.14 10:11:00 - [979]
 

ok I know this is old but I still want to support it ... ^^

Something I find ridiculas is that CCP charges the same amount for a month subscribtion in US $'s as in Euro's . So I pay 34,99 EURO's a 2 months via subscribtion ... while I pay in US dollars at GTC vendors saving me 12 euro's ....

Meepness22
The Lighthouse Corporation

Posted - 2008.09.11 20:21:00 - [980]
 

Give us our choices back

Aaru
Frugal Enterprises
Posted - 2008.09.11 21:39:00 - [981]
 


Pax Ratlin
Gallente
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2008.09.11 22:06:00 - [982]
 


hired goon
Posted - 2008.09.12 22:44:00 - [983]
 

lol

Dogfighter
Posted - 2008.09.17 22:30:00 - [984]
 

/signed

Zylawy
Posted - 2008.09.18 16:32:00 - [985]
 

/signed

Nicola Sardonicus
Posted - 2008.11.17 21:42:00 - [986]
 

Please provide 30-day GTCs to give players more flexibility in managing their real-life and in-game cash flow.

Miandondon
Posted - 2008.11.17 21:48:00 - [987]
 

What "industry standards" is CCP following in implementing this change (other than greed)?

Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
Posted - 2008.11.17 22:07:00 - [988]
 

I suggest you stop whining and look up '30 Day Pilot's License Extension' on your local market!

take care,
Arithron

Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.11.18 20:20:00 - [989]
 

Originally by: Arithron
I suggest you stop whining and look up '30 Day Pilot's License Extension' on your local market!

take care,
Arithron
Ah yes, there are plenty of 90 day cards around there, and they knocked down the prices of gtc's to be inline with credit card or other forms of subscription.

Oh wait, no, that didn't happen at all.

Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
Posted - 2008.11.18 21:29:00 - [990]
 

Of course they didn't, they are a company that would prefer a regular cashflow, hence a price differential to encourage players to use credit card payments etc. Many companies do it (eg, in UK companies give discounts for paying regular direct debits instead of billing/payment).

Besides this inducement to move to credit card payments, there is the matter of reseller profits to consider. A company selling GTC needs to make a profit on them. CCP need their bottom line. Add these together, you get a more expensive GTC than just paying for your time direct with CCP. Buying a GTC from CCP can't be cheaper than resellers, otherwise no-one would buy from resellers, number gtc sold (and hence players logging in) would drop.

The 30 day PL, available in-game on markets, allows you to buy multiples of 30 days for ISK...ie, no RL cost to you at all. If you are smart enough, or partake in the right activities, you can play without costing a cent (or whatever) of you RL money.

take care,
Arithron


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