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Allanon Wren
Republic Military School

Posted - 2008.05.22 18:28:00 - [31]


Donald Truman
State Protectorate

Posted - 2008.05.22 18:35:00 - [32]

This might end up proving nothing more than a communications snafu but it sure isn't good customer relations.

Why'dyou HitMe
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2008.05.22 18:39:00 - [33]


Papa Ina
Posted - 2008.05.22 18:54:00 - [34]

For obvious reasons signing this.

Posted - 2008.05.22 18:54:00 - [35]

Agree with the original poster.
And the 2 month option is going to scare of a lot of new potential subscribers fresh out of the 14 day trial.
Honestly, for the life of me, I can't see any reason for removing the 30 day time card. Confused

New Age Flying Industries
Posted - 2008.05.22 18:55:00 - [36]


but i see a big drop in players comming ugh

Djuma Nihilist
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.05.22 18:55:00 - [37]


Herschel Yamamoto
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:04:00 - [38]

Deleting 50- and 100-day cards makes sense. Raising prices doesn't(unless it's in the form of currency harmonization), but I'm hardly surprised when any company does it. Deleting 30-day cards, though, I'm just really confused by - do you *want* to make it hard for players to join the game? More than doubling the entry cost of the game seems like it's really stupid in the long term. This is just a bizarre announcement in a lot of ways.

Segge Bolled
Deep Core Mining Inc.

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:05:00 - [39]

After review of the situation ... I'm inclined to call shenanigan's upon the part of CCP.

CSM, have at them.

Tolis Irithel
Northstar Cabal
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:05:00 - [40]

/signed on grounds of choice-reduction argument. (Price increases, while downright annoying, aren't something I would think could be voted on by those buying the product :))

Akov Stohs
Windowlickers Inc
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:06:00 - [41]


David Khan
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:06:00 - [42]

Supporting this.

legend of retribution
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:10:00 - [43]


Jake Tyler
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:14:00 - [44]


Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:24:00 - [45]

It does seem to remove a lot of the flexibility that we previously had which isn't a good thing. Please allow us to have 30, 60 and 90 day GTC.

Mael Duakal
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:26:00 - [46]

I want to have the option of a 30 day GTC!

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:26:00 - [47]

Edited by: Akelorian on 22/05/2008 19:27:48
Well I would hate to disagree with you guys on this one. For one, the expansions that have been put into eve cost man hours, They don't charge you for these expansions they are given to you for free. Second look at it this way, 1 30d GTC is 14.95, thus technically a 90d gtc should cost $44.85 not the $38.85 (Loss of 6 bucks) They are increasing the price by a whole $2.50/month with the 60d GTC's, I'm sorry thats two coffee's a month?

If you feel that is too heavy on your wallets Sorry, get a credit card pay yearly or just buy them with iskies! Might increase the ingame costs, but shouldn't really affect you. No Credit Card? No problem there is alternative ways to pay for eve, look into it.

And Yes Keep 30/90 day GTC's just increase the costs of the 90d and drop the 60d to the respective 30 bucks or w/e to make these people satisfied.

Phoenix Knights

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:27:00 - [48]

Frankly I can't think of an mmo that doesn't have a monthly subscription option (that isn't free) and 30 day gtc's are that. Considering that CCP still hasn't got around to sorting out support for mastero cards in europe yet. CSM if your gonna prove yaself useful do it on this issue.

Kazaux Aux
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:27:00 - [49]

At least don't make it so its a 35 percent increase in price over using 90 day gtcs, 60 day for $29.99 is what it should be at the VERY most

Ice Imolater
Rift Tech
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:28:00 - [50]

I have a feeling that this unwelcome news has been timed to give the CSM candidates a hot topic to present at the upcoming meeting. If CCP partially back down and reintroduce 30 and 90 day GTC's (albeit at the increased price) it will appear that the CSM is working as intended., is this just more PR manipulation?. I for one hope so, I want my 90 day GTC's.

3 accounts here!

Catastrophe - D
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:29:00 - [51]

Keep the system the way it was.

Una D
Ex Coelis
The Bantam Menace
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:29:00 - [52]

/signed with 3 accounts

Garoun Investment Bank

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:31:00 - [53]

/signed with 3 accounts

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:31:00 - [54]

I will probably end up having to cancel my second account because of how much it should add to the isk cost to keep it running.

Band of Builders Inc.
Sodalitas XX
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:35:00 - [55]

Edited by: DarkPlasma on 22/05/2008 19:34:51

OV Marius
Core Antum
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:36:00 - [56]

/Signed, I don't want to give up my second account before I can make good use of it Sad

Quam Singulari Industry
Session Changes
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:45:00 - [57]


Why did you raise the prices in euro's too? :L


Posted - 2008.05.22 19:46:00 - [58]

Edited by: Zakgram on 22/05/2008 19:46:39
Edited by: Zakgram on 22/05/2008 19:46:08
Problems with dumping the 2nd account:

1. 20 euros to move the primary alt to the main account. According to the FAQ included in char transfer is that this is to "prevent abuse". I call bull since both accounts are registered to the same address and since a 1 euro would give them the same log as 20 euros, this is because they don't want us moving chars around.

2. Ships that *require* at least 2 people playing, and thus are very difficult to be usable without an alt account at least some of the time since it can be difficult to have real world people on in the systems you need them to be at the time you can be there just to get from one place to another.

3. Moving characters from one account to another can't be done if the character is in a corp. Even if that character is the only person in the corp. More bull from the FAQ about asking other corp members... so to go back to the NPC corp you have to mess around giving corp ownership to yet another alt, then move the char, then move back into the corp. Very untidy.

So - by changing the pricing to make GTCs more expensive and thus lots of us dump the 2nd account, you've just made life harder for us. Boo hoo :-)

And you can get stuffed next time a "Power of 2" comes along.

Dawn Verragan
The Artisan Collective

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:47:00 - [59]

30 day GTCs are a very nice option for people with multiple accounts. I love the ability to do a month on my combat char and then switch to mining again. 60 day intervals would be too long, step aside the increase of cost :(

Felysta Sandorn
Celestial Apocalypse

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:48:00 - [60]

Signed in a big way!

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