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Lai Lowside
Gallente
A Touch of Death
Posted - 2008.05.24 03:39:00 - [331]
 

/S... S... SIGNED

aUTOKILL
Gallente
No.Mercy
Merciless.
Posted - 2008.05.24 03:41:00 - [332]
 

Edited by: aUTOKILL on 24/05/2008 03:41:00
/signed.

reanimator4
3V Corp
United Legion
Posted - 2008.05.24 04:19:00 - [333]
 

/signed Shocked

Rovern Hashu
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.05.24 04:31:00 - [334]
 

/signed

Morne Aure
Posted - 2008.05.24 05:42:00 - [335]
 

/signed

I always use 90-days cards. Why you get it out from me, mm? Evil or Very Mad
Please, take back 90-days cards!!!

MaximuS
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:18:00 - [336]
 

/signed

vVPhaetonVv
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:19:00 - [337]
 

/signed
Hey CCP, Any comments? We (you customers) are waiting!

Daymio
Caldari
Sons of the Dragon
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:20:00 - [338]
 

/signed

Meta Pyrr
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:27:00 - [339]
 

/signed

Grayfish
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:31:00 - [340]
 

Edited by: Grayfish on 24/05/2008 06:30:48
/signed

HULIGANKO
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:32:00 - [341]
 

/signed

Daymi Mur
Caldari
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:33:00 - [342]
 

Edited by: Daymi Mur on 24/05/2008 06:33:24
/signed

Zenitar
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:43:00 - [343]
 

/signed

Notorious BIG
Inside out.
Posted - 2008.05.24 06:47:00 - [344]
 

/signed


xena zena
The Money Shot Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.24 07:06:00 - [345]
 

Edited by: xena zena on 24/05/2008 07:14:13
Originally by: LeGlt
There are better things than choice - streamlining systems to make them more efficient and better for all. Sometimes less is more!

To give you an exmaple, there are only x amount of potential codes left under the current system and they're spread against types which may or may not sell very well. Has anyone even seen many of the 50/100 codes for sale? People had their choice and the majority ignored 50% of them. Why waste a large proportion of your potential codes on something that won't shift? By unifying the structure 100% of the codes have 100% potential to be sold.

Then there are the in-game Economic factors. At the moment a 30 day code sells for approx 150m and 90 days for approx 350m. Sellers of 90 day codes get a raw deal for their higher purchase cost whilst buyers save a good 100m opting to buy a 90 day code instead of paying 450m for 3x 30 days. This is plainly out of balance and unfair to 30 day buyers and 90 day sellers.

By limiting codes to 60 days only balance is restored - the buyer can pay a flat rate for their time and the seller won't get ripped off buying a higher code and selling it for less than it's equivalent value. Everybody wins... in theory...


The only problem I personally have with the 60 day codes is the price. $35 seems a bit steep for a 60 day GTC when you can get a 90 day ETC for $39?


One of my OLD OLD OLD gtc's 9MABZTUQ7VXN8Z8Y

they all start with 9MA, I THINK, so thats 13 digits extra, of letters and numbers so 36^13, or 170,581,728,179,578,208,256 possible combinations, presuming theres some algorithm that generates the keys (dosn't have to be) that only a sub-set of those is "valid" theres still an ASTRONOMICAL amount of key-space available in the existing code structure, and even if for some magical crazy beyond imagining reason they use up that keyspace, they can just add another digit to the code and get 36 times more codes!

Pbs
Pumpkin Scissors
Evi1 Empire
Posted - 2008.05.24 07:30:00 - [346]
 

/signed

CCP на мыло.

Shi Lang
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.05.24 07:43:00 - [347]
 

don't remember if i posted.

/signed

Kecheor
REUNI0N Holding
RED Citizens
Posted - 2008.05.24 07:43:00 - [348]
 

/signed

Ian Kelliher
Amarr
Posted - 2008.05.24 07:56:00 - [349]
 

Edited by: Ian Kelliher on 24/05/2008 07:57:19
/signed

norfolkEG
0ne Man Army
Red Alliance
Posted - 2008.05.24 07:57:00 - [350]
 

/signed

AAAF
Neaga
Rebellion Alliance
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:00:00 - [351]
 

/signed

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:08:00 - [352]
 

/signed

Let it go.
I want to see how really impotent CSM are.
And this issue is a perfect one to show that.

stadshagen
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:15:00 - [353]
 

singed

the player base sould have all 3 options
and sneaking in raise in price is rather lame i would have expedted this kind of the from microsoft but not from ccp

Stephen HB
Mystical Knights
Malum Exuro
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:15:00 - [354]
 

/signed

Posting to support the raising of this issue at the CSM.

This situation (and the lack of clear - or ANY - communication) strikes me as just the sort of bone headed 'no-one will mind' stunt that the CSM is designed to defuse.

Invader1
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:27:00 - [355]
 

me signed

xena zena
The Money Shot Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:30:00 - [356]
 

Originally by: Stephen HB
/signed

Posting to support the raising of this issue at the CSM.

This situation (and the lack of clear - or ANY - communication) strikes me as just the sort of bone headed 'no-one will mind' stunt that the CSM is designed to defuse.


Theres been communication, follow Link for the official response until next week where we may hear more from CCP RyanD, also at the bottom of the page theres another little response from him...

Paints a clear picture on why they did it I think (the E14.95, or $23.60 per 30 day charge being circumvented by GTC's where they get even less due to the bulk discount to the resellers, imho.)

Kynes Harkonnen
OHiTech
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:32:00 - [357]
 

/signed

xena zena
The Money Shot Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:32:00 - [358]
 

Originally by: Tonto Auri
/signed

Let it go.
I want to see how really impotent CSM are.
And this issue is a perfect one to show that.


I agree this will be a great yard-stick of how much influence they have.

Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
Discord.
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:41:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: xena zena
Originally by: Tonto Auri
/signed

Let it go.
I want to see how really impotent CSM are.
And this issue is a perfect one to show that.


I agree this will be a great yard-stick of how much influence they have.

/signed
and agree with quoted statement.

If you need to raise the price because of the exchange rates, fine, but leave us our slightly more efficient 90's, and 30's for people who are perpetually poor. 60 is neither here nor there. Also, maybe sell gtc's directly at cost (i.e. less the reseller fee, or part of it) directly to players on this website?

Cut out middleman means more profit margins or demand for ccp, nothing bad.

Iloni Atoriandra
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.24 08:54:00 - [360]
 

I support this thread.

The new system will cost me an extra $200 a year.

Even by cancelling 1 account im paying more a year than i am now.

Paying $15 is a lot cheaper than 15 Euros a month which is unfair against UK/EUR players who have to pay more to play the same game.


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