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Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:11:00 - [91]
 

A poor decision CCP.

C.


Una D
Ex Coelis
The Bantam Menace
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:17:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Una D on 22/05/2008 17:19:03
Wow great way to get people to think twice about the amount of accounts they have (especially before FW that was bound to end up in few new alts to test the waters).

This has nothing to do with industry standard. There are plenty of games using 30+90 instead of 60. And if you want to be wow wannabe than might as well charge the same and not 10$ more for 60 day ETC.

If you want more cash at least be honest instead of this BS you give us. It's insulting to think that people playing excel online can't calculate %... Mad

Gabriel Karade
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:18:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Jacob Marden
Unless I read the CSM election results wrong, it states that almost 40% of the subscription base is North American. Making that much of your playerbase pay more money essentially because the smaller percentage of Euros are evading their own countries' taxes by buying with dollars doesn't strike me as making much sense. The NA people are going to be making the same amount of income regardless, so increasing the cost of their entertainment will just alienate more of them and sooner or later they'll talk with their money.
When you guys are paying the same as the rest of us you'd have something to complain about.

Until then shove it up your arse.

4IROW
r.evolution 8
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:21:00 - [94]
 

hoho... the whine is epic today Laughing

I'm sure alot will have to sell their houses and cars to keep playing eve... Rolling Eyes

Sabrina Treadehugger
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:21:00 - [95]
 

very very bad move

i wonder how many idiotic posts will the ccp fangirls post in their narcisism

stupid flanders
Planet Express LLC
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:23:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: stupid flanders on 22/05/2008 17:23:13
FFS they can't even provide forums that work... click reply to post... log in.... click reply to post again.... write nice long post.... click post reply... back to log in screen and no post.

So sorry to hear the weak dollar is hurting CCP cus you know it's a walk in the park over here.....Rolling Eyes


Fallorn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:27:00 - [97]
 


Yes, I can see you all hate AMERIKKA but you have to realize that about 40% of the players are from their. Thus 40% don't care that the dollar is down right now they just see them selves getting shafted and they know if and when the dollar comes back up time cards are not going to go back to what they were use to. This will just pis people off and has the chance to make tons of American's quit. That would rip a new hole in the price of characters. It would also tank the Timecard market because they would not be selling them for isk. This would mean that ccp would lose even more money because of this change as they lose subscribers and the 30% increase in timecards sure as hell won't help if they lose a ton of players.

Una D
Ex Coelis
The Bantam Menace
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:29:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Fallorn

Yes, I can see you all hate AMERIKKA but you have to realize that about 40% of the players are from their. Thus 40% don't care that the dollar is down right now they just see them selves getting shafted and they know if and when the dollar comes back up time cards are not going to go back to what they were use to. This will just pis people off and has the chance to make tons of American's quit. That would rip a new hole in the price of characters. It would also tank the Timecard market because they would not be selling them for isk. This would mean that ccp would lose even more money because of this change as they lose subscribers and the 30% increase in timecards sure as hell won't help if they lose a ton of players.



But but but, all the economy peeps say that if you charge more you get more...

PS:(as a physicist I truly hate economists, they ruin all our fun :D )

Skjorta
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:29:00 - [99]
 

How is making the monthly fee $17 with gtcs in line with the industry?

I think that makes it one of the most expensive in the industry...and more expensive than its competitors.

If it were 60 days for $29.99USD, it'd be fine. It seems they aren't thinking long term and just want to immediately exploit eve before it goes under.

I'm sure peoples main account will pay it just fine...but prepare for a lot of alt accounts to go inactive. Doesn't make a lot of business sense tbh.

gg ccp


Avalira
Caldari
The Black Light Foundation
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:30:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Someone, make a thread in the new CSM forum. I'm voting for this being an issue.


Done


Gabriel Karade
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:31:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Fallorn

Yes, I can see you all hate AMERIKKA but you have to realize that about 40% of the players are from their. Thus 40% don't care that the dollar is down right now they just see them selves getting shafted and they know if and when the dollar comes back up time cards are not going to go back to what they were use to. This will just pis people off and has the chance to make tons of American's quit. That would rip a new hole in the price of characters. It would also tank the Timecard market because they would not be selling them for isk. This would mean that ccp would lose even more money because of this change as they lose subscribers and the 30% increase in timecards sure as hell won't help if they lose a ton of players.
Idiot.

No-one has said anything about 'America' here. The fact of the matter is, a good number of us are paying more for the same game, effectively subsidising other players. So the response is the same:

"Boo-hoo"

mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:31:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Fallorn

you have to realize that about 40% of the players are from their.


Post your sources.. Because last I checked.. theres very few "strong" mostly american alliances.. ugh

Ichiwa
Gallente
Vali Corporation
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:31:00 - [103]
 

Price hike? Fair enough.

Removing option to buy 30 days? ******ed.

Haakelen
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:32:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Ichiwa
Price hike? Fair enough.

Removing option to buy 30 days? ******ed.


This is about the only thing I agree with. The price adjustment is not unreasonable given the global economic situations, but 30D timecodes are handy.

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:32:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Fallorn
Yes, I can see you all hate AMERIKKA....

Hate has nothing to do with it. We just want a fair payment policy where all players pay the same per month of playtime. This is not an unreasonable expectation.

Rarkal
Vzdelops
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:32:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Rarkal on 22/05/2008 17:32:32
Originally by: Ichiwa
Price hike? Fair enough.

Removing option to buy 30 days? ******ed.


Same, this sucks Embarassed

Xrak
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:33:00 - [107]
 

Very disappointing news, and utterly stupid too I think.

Sabrina Treadehugger
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:33:00 - [108]
 

now they are closing threads typical

Kerdrak
GreenSwarm
Black Legion.
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:34:00 - [109]
 

Quote:
Changes coming for ETC's and Game Time Cards

reported by: CCP Wrangler | 2008.05.22 13:57:19

To simplify the ETC reseller program and attune our product offerings with industry standards, CCP will introduce new 60-day EVE Time Codes (ETC) and Game Time Cards (GTC) for $34.99 USD. These will replace the 30- and 90-day cards that were previously available through authorized resellers and the 50- and 100-day cards sold in the EVE Store. This will affect both online ETC's and Game Time Cards sold in the EVE Online Store. Orders may still be placed for time cards of all increments while supplies last or until the changeover to the new 60-day cards goes into effect on June 15, 2008.




Where is the original post?

Fallorn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:34:00 - [110]
 



The distribution of subscribers by region and the voters’ distribution by region is more or less uniform with few exceptions, such as Poland holding 1.88% of the cast votes while being only 0.84% of the eligible voters; Germany and France both have a noticeably large faction of eligible voters, yet fewer than could be expected actually showed up in the booth.

Country % of voters % of subscribers
United States 32,81% 37.06%
United Kingdom 15,60% 13,92%

We want to thank all of the candidates who threw their hats into the ring and gave it their all. Watching the campaigns unfold was fascinating. We also appreciate those who supported the CSM by voting. There is no way of knowing where this will lead, but we’re all in it together and the promise of what we can accomplish together is astonishing.

HUR I'm wrong its only 37.06% but still the largest single group.

Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:36:00 - [111]
 

this page is the 4th page

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:36:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: Kerfira on 22/05/2008 17:37:07
Originally by: Fallorn
HUR I'm wrong its only 37.06% but still the largest single group.

Being a large group isn't a reason why you should get the game cheaper than the other 63%....

Fallorn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:37:00 - [113]
 

Most other games have servers for euro's and us because of stuff like this so that they can keep their prices fair for both people. Euro's all pay the same and us servers all pay the same. CCP doesn't and that is one of the reasons I love the game but it also has them pis on a large group of players for one reason or another.

Gabriel Karade
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:38:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Fallorn


The distribution of subscribers by region and the voters’ distribution by region is more or less uniform with few exceptions, such as Poland holding 1.88% of the cast votes while being only 0.84% of the eligible voters; Germany and France both have a noticeably large faction of eligible voters, yet fewer than could be expected actually showed up in the booth.

Country % of voters % of subscribers
United States 32,81% 37.06%
United Kingdom 15,60% 13,92%

We want to thank all of the candidates who threw their hats into the ring and gave it their all. Watching the campaigns unfold was fascinating. We also appreciate those who supported the CSM by voting. There is no way of knowing where this will lead, but we’re all in it together and the promise of what we can accomplish together is astonishing.

HUR I'm wrong its only 37.06% but still the largest single group.

Now add up all the Europeans and that comes to 35%... your point?

Fallorn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:38:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: Fallorn
HUR I'm wrong its only 37.06% but still the largest single group.

Being a large group isn't a reason why you should get the game cheaper than others....


No we just want what we have been getting from the start. By getting rid of 90 day cards we are paying 3 bucks less for 30 days less.

stupid flanders
Planet Express LLC
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:40:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Kerfira
Being a large group isn't a reason why you should get the game cheaper than the other 63%....
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Well they could have always lowered the cost for Euro's I am sure none of you would open more accounts if that ever happend.

Caelum Mortuos
Gallente
Zero G Research and Development
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:42:00 - [117]
 

I don't see a problem with the price rise. To be honest, as a lot of people have said, it's been a long time coming so we'll just have to accept it.

On the other hand, why get rid of 30/90 day GTCs?? It makes no sense. In the face of rising costs CCP should be giving it's customers more options to fund their account in chunks which suits their lifestyle/wages/whatever, not bottleneck everyone into a single option, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of players are lost not because the game is too expensive, but because the way they have to pay isn't feasible for them.

Bring back 30/90 day GTCs!!!

Oliver G
G Enterprises
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:43:00 - [118]
 

Dear CCP,
I just want to say that I am very disappointed on the decision to remove the 30 and 90 Day GTCs. Raising prices would be OK with me, but removing options that players have is always a bad idea.

A lot of ppl playing EVE are probably around the age of 18. At that age, it is far more comfortable to spend lesser amounts of money more frequently instead of being coerced to spend a lot of money less frequent. I think CCP is moving in a totally wrong direction here; probably losing players.

I hope the newly foundet Council of Interstellar Management can do something to reverse this decision.

A disappointed long-time customer.

Grytok
KL0NKRIEGER
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:43:00 - [119]
 

I don't give a $hit for a higher price... thats not a problem for me, but...

WTF CCP? Removing the option to subscribe for 30 days by ETC/GTC is just ****in' terrible.

Having 3 accounts is just awful, when you can't set a LvL 5 skill during an offtime on one of the accounts.

So you really think that this is a smart move?

This will cost you some I'll tell ya ugh

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2008.05.22 17:44:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Fallorn
Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: Fallorn
HUR I'm wrong its only 37.06% but still the largest single group.

Being a large group isn't a reason why you should get the game cheaper than others....


No we just want what we have been getting from the start. By getting rid of 90 day cards we are paying 3 bucks less for 30 days less.

So you basically want CCP taking responsibility (and a financial loss) for the disastrous economic policy of your government?
This is not the way economics work. You buy a service from CCP, CCP pays their expenses in ISK/Euro, your currency drops against ISK/Euro, CCP has to raise your prices.

CCP would do themselves a big fat favor if they only sold GTC's or other gametime in ONE currency. Then discussions like this wouldn't occur.


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