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Aenis Veros
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.05.24 12:05:00 - [601]
 

LOL at the people whining.

How many other MMO:s do you know of where you can PLAY FOR FREE? That's right, when you pay for your game time with pretend money, you are actually playing for free. Yes of course SOMEONE buys them, but not you; the whiner. Someone does it who clearly is dedicated enough to this game, or desperate enough to rather have ISK than real cash. Most likely that person wouldn't care about a few dollars here or there. But he is not you.

You have the option to play the game so it pays for itself, still.

How about CCP did what... all other MMO:s do, and NOT have the ability to pay by paying fake money at all.

Ungrateful people. Just quit this game already, the lot of you. GTFO.

Terminus adacai
Caldari
Racey Bee
Posted - 2008.05.24 12:46:00 - [602]
 

This is not a good thing. "Industry Standards"? Puhlease... Is the industry upping it's monthly subscription rates too? Haven't seen that....

What happened to a discount for buying larger blocks of time?

/fail

Val Vympel
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2008.05.24 12:49:00 - [603]
 

Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/05/2008 13:31:46
Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/05/2008 12:53:37
Originally by: Julius Kashmir
Obviously you missed the lesson of business success, "the customer is always right."

I.E. if you DONT have a customer you don't have a business and the way ccp continues to annoy and **** of it's player base with moves like this and it's mimic of WoW instanced base pvp, it's no wonder EVE hasn't grown to eve a fraction of the fame and height WoW has but EVE has originality and until recent moments has been up there w/ blizzard setting standards and now are regressing and following blizzards footsteps.

It's only a matter of time until players start quitting CCP.


Obviously..Rolling EyesIt must be true,I am a complete and total ignoramus.

What I am is a 39 year old,semi-retired(at my age that means wealthyWink)rancher and dairy farmer.

I have run the business my great-grandfather started over 100 years ago..for the past 21 years.

Let me educate you and others.

Success sir,begins and ends with your EMPLOYEES.
My family company(and at 300 or so employees CCP is about half again as large as my company)would NOT have been a success for over 100 years if not for the tireless and dedicated hard work of thousands of people over the years.

My job is to insure the economic viability of my company,to insure that my employees have a job to arrive at in the morning so in turn insuring that YOU the customer have a product to buy.

Your money is worth less than the paper it is printed on if you do not have a product to buy with it.Your money is also worthless to me.EMPLOYEES insure that you and others the CUSTOMER(S) have a product to buy that gives your money worth.Now..because of EMPLOYEES your money has worth to me as well.

Take your money to my competitor you might say...Ok!..what makes you think a different and more favorable(for YOU and others) set of market or economic circumstances govern his company?

If the product that CCP produces is so poor and not worth your money,why has this thread produced 20 pages of protest?

If the product is so inferior in your estimation why have you and others not quietly withdrawn and gone elsewhere?

ANSWER: Because you and others believe your money gives you the RIGHT to dictate the terms by which a company governs itself. And you and others obfuscate the fact that you and others really like this product but your collective hubris will not allow you to admit that or quit.

The CUSTOMER is always right??LaughingLaughing
True....in their own MIND.

Lesson concluded

Good dayWink

DrHolliday
Aristotle Enterprises
Posted - 2008.05.24 12:50:00 - [604]
 

Edited by: DrHolliday on 24/05/2008 12:50:21
Originally by: Aenis Veros
LOL at the people whining.

How many other MMO:s do you know of where you can PLAY FOR FREE? That's right, when you pay for your game time with pretend money, you are actually playing for free. Yes of course SOMEONE buys them, but not you; the whiner. Someone does it who clearly is dedicated enough to this game, or desperate enough to rather have ISK than real cash. Most likely that person wouldn't care about a few dollars here or there. But he is not you.

You have the option to play the game so it pays for itself, still.

How about CCP did what... all other MMO:s do, and NOT have the ability to pay by paying fake money at all.

Ungrateful people. Just quit this game already, the lot of you. GTFO.
O_O srsly guys, srsbrucelee Rolling Eyes

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2008.05.24 13:04:00 - [605]
 

Oh dear, no follow-up from RyanD?

Rorin Cutter
Caldari
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.05.24 13:23:00 - [606]
 

Originally by: Nyphur
Oh dear, no follow-up from RyanD?


Maybe not be it still sucks loosing the 30 and 90 day option!

Alexandros Balfros
Caldari
Pax Britannia
Rally Against Evil
Posted - 2008.05.24 13:46:00 - [607]
 

So wait CCP stop doing 30 day cards and then yesterday announce that they are doing a new greece retail set and will be selling 30 day cards over there, somewhere something doesn't add up

http://www.eve-online.com/news/newsOfEve.asp?newsID=559

Locii
Posted - 2008.05.24 15:10:00 - [608]
 

The new 30Day timecodes they are selling are at teh full euro price. so its ok if you us guys wanna buy them, just cant have you buying 30day codes in $ cos tahts just not making ccp the cash

Dessa DesPlains
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.05.24 15:33:00 - [609]
 

I don't play other mmorpgs. I play eve. Don't care about industry standards. If I did. I'd be playing a microsoft game. Oh wait...

Dessa DesPlains
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.05.24 15:44:00 - [610]
 

Edited by: Dessa DesPlains on 24/05/2008 16:32:04
Edited by: Dessa DesPlains on 24/05/2008 16:17:00
Edited by: Dessa DesPlains on 24/05/2008 15:58:58
Originally by: Warrior Crash
if its gunna be costing more to play you need to be building a new server because im not up for paying for 1 that lags bad as it is now.
It doesnt matter what country you live in now the cost of living is going up as it is, and the wages dont go up so your basicly screewing your selfs as most people will not be able to afford to pay for the game each month.




Lag will be getting better soon. I see 29799 people on line now on a Saturday afternoon. And I've been seeing less than 20000 most nights.
I'm sure this GTC issue will help increase subscriptions.

Although the rush on current cards will surely put more cash in their pockets.

Wonder if the news reported in the New York Times about Iceland getting it s credit rating cut by Moody's has anything to do with it? There were two other reports about Iceland's banks going through some tough times. One report was about (among other things) how Iceland was affected by high inflation. A quote from the NYT:
"Since Jan. 1, the krona has lost 22 percent of its value against the euro."

The other was how the central banks of Sweden, Denmark and Norway were going to guarantee that up to 1.5 billion euros to make sure the Icelandic banks still have access to currency and would not default on loans.

They still could have explained it better.

Or I could be completely wrong and this is all a plot by the evil genius who plans EVE's economy to remove more isk from the game by making it harder to get it in the first place.

Or maybe a little from column A and a little from column B. Very Happy

DrefsabZN
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.05.24 16:08:00 - [611]
 

Personally I think this is a decision with fail written all over it. CCP don't have a competent billing system for UK residents (something any almost everyone and their dog can do now days but CCP fails at) in that they don't have the ability to process the main Debit cards types held in the UK (Maesto, Solo, Switch etc).

GTC's used to offer a viable solution for those who don't wont to have to have a credit card, don't want to use "PayByCash" (I mean come on who has ever heard of them outside of eve), or have to change banks to one that doesn't issue the standard type of Debit cards.

Given that a lot of players in the UK are forced into using GTC's to play because of CCP's inept billing methods restricting the choice's customers get is a poor move indeed. It Doesn't give a better customer experiment it doesn't make things easier for resellers (I mean god forbid that resellers have to handle 2 whole SKU's, what ever will they do).

It would have been better if CCP had not lied to the customer base and told the real reason's behind the change (most likely financial due to the currency markets), adjusted the prices accordingly and hell maybe just maybe fixed there billing system so people can use the same payment methods their using to get the GTC's to pay for eve directly.

CCP showing some transparency in decisions and actually giving a better customer choice/experience/satisfaction? Crazy idea I know but who know's it could be worth a try and lord knows its certainly not been done yet when it comes to the billing side.

Kaian Voskhod
Posted - 2008.05.24 16:20:00 - [612]
 

Quote:
If the product that CCP produces is so poor and not worth your money,why has this thread produced 20 pages of protest?


This is simple for many of us.

1
We accept to play for 0.45$/day
We refuse to play for 0.58$/day
So many of us warn CCP that they will;
- cancel their account
- merge alts in one account

2
We don't like that a company hide their goal and speak to us as if we were jackass. The announce say "we reduce costs". They always avoid to say "for people buying 90d GTC, the overall price is growing around +34%".

3
The extra cash income don't seems to be used for:
- reducing lag
- solving isk sellers
- enhancing game balance

Instead, we have unwanted add-on like:
- ambulation
- factionnal warfare
- some crazy decisions (wtf, changing the skin of EW frigs ?)

Darth Sithus
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2008.05.24 17:56:00 - [613]
 

Originally by: Kaian Voskhod
Quote:
If the product that CCP produces is so poor and not worth your money,why has this thread produced 20 pages of protest?


This is simple for many of us.

1
We accept to play for 0.45$/day
We refuse to play for 0.58$/day
So many of us warn CCP that they will;
- cancel their account
- merge alts in one account

2
We don't like that a company hide their goal and speak to us as if we were jackass. The announce say "we reduce costs". They always avoid to say "for people buying 90d GTC, the overall price is growing around +34%".

3
The extra cash income don't seems to be used for:
- reducing lag
- solving isk sellers
- enhancing game balance

Instead, we have unwanted add-on like:
- ambulation
- factionnal warfare
- some crazy decisions (wtf, changing the skin of EW frigs ?)


I want answer from CCP on this.

StinkFinger
Caldari
SupaDupaSip GaNkA
Posted - 2008.05.24 18:02:00 - [614]
 

Edited by: StinkFinger on 24/05/2008 18:03:01
ccp wants to stop people from buying a 30 day gtc, training some skills, then setting a long 30+ day skill right before the 30 day gtc expires, and letting the account go inactive, then reactivating the account after the skill finishes with another 30 day gtc and then doing the same thing over again...the way they see it, they're losing out on quite a bit of income.

Brother Welcome
Amarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.05.24 18:03:00 - [615]
 

Originally by: xena zena
Edited by: xena zena on 24/05/2008 08:21:57
Originally by: Brother Welcome
Gosh you really didn't understand my post at all, did you? Toon-levelling is done by every so often buying a 30-day code and setting long skills in training.

Go back to page 19 and read CCP's response. I read it after I posted, but I nearly hit the nail on the head.

BW




Ok after reading that I get the impression:

1. They're tired of people circumventing the E14.95 (or $23.60 at current exchange rate), heck thats $8.65 lost per 30 days.
2. The bulk sell price of less then $14.95 to the resellers means they loose even more per 30 days!

So the solution is, make it painful by having to pay for 60 days upfront, and jack the price up! Hoping this drives more people to just direct-pay the additional 157.8% on their credit cards.

By trying to justify that they're doing it because Blizzard only sells 60 day GTC's is kinda silly. Since what else do they do thats industry-standard set by blizzard? Not pricing, obviously, not anything else I've ever noticed, so why this now?

It's all about the money. IF they can force the euros to direct pay in EUROS, heck thats 57% more income right there, win win, right? Rolling Eyes

Lets ignore all the little folk that aren't doing it to circumvent the exchange rate, or that can only maintain their alts and number of accounts through buying via isk, lets not worry about hurting them. The loss of those accounts won't effect the bottom line as much? RIGHT?


Yup. It does suck. By chance I recently moved IP location and had my rolling sub terminated and cc refused. In order to play I bought a GTC and discovered how much cheaper it was to play if you aren't in Europe.

Anyway. The amount would suck less if CCP were attending to features we care about.

Ambulation? WTF? How on Earth did CCP figure out that what I realy, really want is to play WoW in space? Is it because of all the threads demanding it? Um... are there any threads demanding it?

White Wolf World of Darkness? Yes, I bet this is where our money goes, instead of buying more servers and fatter cables.

Faction warfare? Eve wins because of non-scripted open PvP. How about fixing low and 0.0 first please?

Do that and I could care less about a few euros one way or the other.

BW

Khudo
Posted - 2008.05.24 18:17:00 - [616]
 

Quote:
This is simple for many of us.

1
We accept to play for 0.45$/day
We refuse to play for 0.58$/day
So many of us warn CCP that they will;
- cancel their account
- merge alts in one account

2
We don't like that a company hide their goal and speak to us as if we were jackass. The announce say "we reduce costs". They always avoid to say "for people buying 90d GTC, the overall price is growing around +34%".

3
The extra cash income don't seems to be used for:
- reducing lag
- solving isk sellers
- enhancing game balance

Instead, we have unwanted add-on like:
- ambulation
- factionnal warfare
- some crazy decisions (wtf, changing the skin of EW frigs ?)


Same tough.

Sooo CCP ?
What is your position... I think youre about to loose money, and "standings" from the player base...

Sabrina Treadehugger
Posted - 2008.05.24 19:44:00 - [617]
 

Edited by: Sabrina Treadehugger on 24/05/2008 19:45:33
Originally by: Kaian Voskhod
Quote:
If the product that CCP produces is so poor and not worth your money,why has this thread produced 20 pages of protest?


This is simple for many of us.

1
We accept to play for 0.45$/day
We refuse to play for 0.58$/day
So many of us warn CCP that they will;
- cancel their account
- merge alts in one account

2
We don't like that a company hide their goal and speak to us as if we were jackass. The announce say "we reduce costs". They always avoid to say "for people buying 90d GTC, the overall price is growing around +34%".

3
The extra cash income don't seems to be used for:
- reducing lag
- solving isk sellers
- enhancing game balance

Instead, we have unwanted add-on like:
- ambulation
- factionnal warfare
- some crazy decisions (wtf, changing the skin of EW frigs ?)


one of the best posts in this thread

i for one am certainly voting with my wallet on this one

Jernau Riggs
Posted - 2008.05.24 19:51:00 - [618]
 

we could orginise an ingame protest??

How about everyone head to jita at a certain pre agreed time in a t1 frigate and just start attacking each other, that should crash the node nicly and we just do it every day for a week and see if they change their mind...

Eve Spair
Caldari
Space Perverts
D0GS OF WAR
Posted - 2008.05.24 20:09:00 - [619]
 

raising the price is fine.
but please keep the different times avaliable.
seems kinda foolish to only offer a 60-day card.

(havent read the entire thread so there might have been an answer to my post already)

Inarr Beck
Posted - 2008.05.24 20:13:00 - [620]
 

remember that all kinds of stuffs are going up in price a lot (yes this includes electricity), regardless even of the dollar decline.

then remember that CCP needs to pay its bills too.

then you may chose from several options as to whom or what to curse for this.

Not the message you wanted to hear but the best that can be done under current market circumstances I'm afraid.

Sabrina Treadehugger
Posted - 2008.05.24 20:18:00 - [621]
 

Originally by: Inarr Beck
remember that all kinds of stuffs are going up in price a lot (yes this includes electricity), regardless even of the dollar decline.

then remember that CCP needs to pay its bills too.

then you may chose from several options as to whom or what to curse for this.

Not the message you wanted to hear but the best that can be done under current market circumstances I'm afraid.



look a post from a market expert ,oh wait.....

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.05.24 21:05:00 - [622]
 

Originally by: Val Vympel
Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/05/2008 13:31:46
Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/05/2008 12:53:37
Originally by: Julius Kashmir
Obviously you missed the lesson of business success, "the customer is always right."

I.E. if you DONT have a customer you don't have a business and the way ccp continues to annoy and **** of it's player base with moves like this and it's mimic of WoW instanced base pvp, it's no wonder EVE hasn't grown to eve a fraction of the fame and height WoW has but EVE has originality and until recent moments has been up there w/ blizzard setting standards and now are regressing and following blizzards footsteps.

It's only a matter of time until players start quitting CCP.


Obviously..Rolling EyesIt must be true,I am a complete and total ignoramus.

What I am is a 39 year old,semi-retired(at my age that means wealthyWink)rancher and dairy farmer.

I have run the business my great-grandfather started over 100 years ago..for the past 21 years.

Let me educate you and others.

Success sir,begins and ends with your EMPLOYEES.
My family company(and at 300 or so employees CCP is about half again as large as my company)would NOT have been a success for over 100 years if not for the tireless and dedicated hard work of thousands of people over the years.

My job is to insure the economic viability of my company,to insure that my employees have a job to arrive at in the morning so in turn insuring that YOU the customer have a product to buy.

Your money is worth less than the paper it is printed on if you do not have a product to buy with it.Your money is also worthless to me.EMPLOYEES insure that you and others the CUSTOMER(S) have a product to buy that gives your money worth.Now..because of EMPLOYEES your money has worth to me as well.

Take your money to my competitor you might say...Ok!..what makes you think a different and more favorable(for YOU and others) set of market or economic circumstances govern his company?

If the product that CCP produces is so poor and not worth your money,why has this thread produced 20 pages of protest?

If the product is so inferior in your estimation why have you and others not quietly withdrawn and gone elsewhere?

ANSWER: Because you and others believe your money gives you the RIGHT to dictate the terms by which a company governs itself. And you and others obfuscate the fact that you and others really like this product but your collective hubris will not allow you to admit that or quit.

The CUSTOMER is always right??LaughingLaughing
True....in their own MIND.

Lesson concluded

Good dayWink



lol rant

SKUNK

Daelin Blackleaf
White Rose Society
Posted - 2008.05.24 21:25:00 - [623]
 

Originally by: StinkFinger
Edited by: StinkFinger on 24/05/2008 18:03:01
ccp wants to stop people from buying a 30 day gtc, training some skills, then setting a long 30+ day skill right before the 30 day gtc expires, and letting the account go inactive, then reactivating the account after the skill finishes with another 30 day gtc and then doing the same thing over again...the way they see it, they're losing out on quite a bit of income.


I keep seeing this. They were going to stop skill training continuing on unpaid accounts some time ago, but were convinced to change their minds. I believe that on EVE China it went through.

These changes don't impact this in any major way. The US customers can sub for $15 one month and leave a skill training during the next without paying, European players can do the same albeit at a higher price.

The primary issues are the removal of options, increase of prices, and pricing inequality between the US and Europe.

Kurogauna
Posted - 2008.05.24 21:47:00 - [624]
 

Quote:
This is simple for many of us.

1
We accept to play for 0.45$/day
We refuse to play for 0.58$/day
So many of us warn CCP that they will;
- cancel their account
- merge alts in one account

2
We don't like that a company hide their goal and speak to us as if we were jackass. The announce say "we reduce costs". They always avoid to say "for people buying 90d GTC, the overall price is growing around +34%".

3
The extra cash income don't seems to be used for:
- reducing lag
- solving isk sellers
- enhancing game balance

Instead, we have unwanted add-on like:
- ambulation
- factionnal warfare
- some crazy decisions (wtf, changing the skin of EW frigs ?)


+1 nothing to ad
the best post

Locii
Posted - 2008.05.24 21:47:00 - [625]
 

where did the sticky go on this part of the forum? are ccp hoping we are going to forget now its gone

Jin'May
Posted - 2008.05.24 22:11:00 - [626]
 

On paper it may look like you'll earn more money that way CCP. Your stats sheets and numbers probably tell you so.
But there's something your data can't predict : how this change will affect the behaviour of your costumers. And that's something I can give you insight about: I am paying for 4 accounts right now. I pay 1 with credit card and 3 with ISK. If the 30d GTC are removed I'll stop paying for 2 of those accounts.

Make your math now.
Tell me whether 60d are such a good day after all?

So for your own sake, if you don't want to lose paid accounts, please don't do it.

THEGREAT LOBO
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.05.24 22:25:00 - [627]
 

Edited by: THEGREAT LOBO on 24/05/2008 22:28:15
You mention being able to buy just 30 days at a time soon with the new payment methods you will be offering. Can you go into more detail on this ?
As this would solve any issues i have with this change.

I currently have 4 accounts and sub all of them with 30 day gtc's i buy online. Only with 60 day gtc's i will probably just go down to 3 accounts as i would not like spending that much in a month on a game. And i like the flexibility of 30 days at a time.

Red Desire
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.05.24 23:18:00 - [628]
 

Originally by: Val Vympel
Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/05/2008 13:31:46
Edited by: Val Vympel on 24/05/2008 12:53:37


Obviously..Rolling EyesIt must be true,I am a complete and total ignoramus.

What I am is a 39 year old,semi-retired(at my age that means wealthyWink)rancher and dairy farmer.

I have run the business my great-grandfather started over 100 years ago..for the past 21 years.

Ignorant stuff



Yes you are a ignoramus !
Let's pass over your pathetic attempt to show your authority in this subject... 39 rich dude who inherited some business and now is milking cows for fun.

The phrase "the customer is always right.", was not first used by customers.
It's suppose to mean a seller attitude towards his buyers, in a fiercely competitive market. Depending of the product you are selling this rule applies in different way... of course if you are manufacturing corks or crapsticks, this could not affect you much.

Your craptastik, manufacturing-employees-crap-money-product-customers lesson, it's a mumbo-jumbo which has not real tangency with the subject at hand... maybe it has in the field your work, eh .. excuse me you worked, now you're milking cows and maturating manure.

There are only 2 rules for any big IT company in the world :
- reduce costs
- increase profit

In a competitive world, where you are selling a similar product in quality and characteristics as others, you need to take care of your customers.
This has changed in the monopolistic IT world we are living.

Now let's talk about MMO business, in short they are selling you the same thing over and over again. The MMO's in general are all based on the same principle, satisfaction on achievement, they need to add new achievements or people would quit. In a normal game(single player) you have one primary achievement, to finish the game, after that 90% of the users never play that game again.

Bases on the satisfaction of achievemnt, we all "work" ingame to reach it, that's why it's hard to quit because you worked (skills,ISK,ships even friends in corp) and didn't get (yet) your satisfaction. Because of this feelings MMOs companies have leverage on their customers.

So in short, they can push the limits and not care about their customers and listen to their corporation policy(read some idiots) of reducing cost&increasing profits(Read India,China&Ambulation,Factionwarefare,GTC price increase) with little fear of loosing money(quiting over lag or just other valid reason).T

This can be a double edge sword, people don't like to be treated like ****, CCP is going downhill, as soon as a company rises with the same characteristics as they used to have people might leave en mass.







Jack Gilligan
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.05.24 23:22:00 - [629]
 

Originally by: CCP RyanD
Originally by: skuko
Originally by: CCP RyanD
stuff


all right then...if you consider blizzard "de facto standard", why not lower the EU price to 12.99,- ?

please answer this simple question...


Because we don't think we'd get more subscribers at a lower price at this time, and we don't base our pricing model on Blizzards' model. That's why we don't charge you for our bi-yearly expansions (which amounts to about $10 million a year in revenue we don't earn, that you keep as a benefit of our policies.)




To be fair, though, if you DID charge for expansions, you'd have incentive to make sure that expansions actually had something for everyone to get us to buy it.

This expansion has ZERO for me, so if it were there for purchase, you and I know that anyone in an alliance would pass on it.


Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2008.05.24 23:25:00 - [630]
 

Originally by: Brother Welcome

Ambulation? WTF? How on Earth did CCP figure out that what I realy, really want is to play WoW in space? Is it because of all the threads demanding it? Um... are there any threads demanding it?

White Wolf World of Darkness? Yes, I bet this is where our money goes, instead of buying more servers and fatter cables.



I subscribe to the theory (not my own) that ambulation is development for world of darkness. No one playing eve seems to care about ambulation, there was no huge outcry for it, but after CCP merges with White Wolf and announces this werewolf/vampire game (I think there might be one or two other fantasy games on the MMO market, but I'm not sure ... Rolling Eyes), all of a sudden we've got this ambulation project. Coincidence?

Only if you're a wereidiot, and lose 100 IQ points by the light of the fail moon.

As many other people have said, FW sounds a bit like a weak lift from WoW, too. Factional battlegrounds where you compete with opposing players for control of areas that don't really grant anything other than faction gains and PvP ranks (complete with insignia! For the Hord--I mean Minmatar!) and increased LP you can redeem for things like epic mounts--I mean ships--with the added "bonus" of denying entry to any player who is currently in an alliance, itself a mechanic CCP has tried to funnel most of their customer base into for the past couple of years, at least. Break their bones!

The decision to raise GTC prices 33-37% (depends on whose math you use) was poorly conceived, poorly planned, and extraordinarily poorly announced. The whole "industry standard" line still has me sitting here thinking "I know I look dumb, but surely not that dumb ..." It's not often I feel personally insulted by a press release, but man, that one was like "hey dummy, check this out!"

I think economic failure in Iceland, the GTC program "wholesale discounts" that resellers are given, the need for additional development funding for a niche game in a clogging MMO market, and a few other factors (increasing hardware/pipe costs as the pound is stronger than the kronor) led to the decision. I think it's gonna backfire pretty catastrophically, if they stay with it.

If I were a GTC reseller, I'd be furious--they're basically cutting their throats with this move. I wouldn't be surprised if they announce the end of the GTC program entirely at some point in the near future (this seems like a veiled attempt to kill it off, really) because it's eating into their profits.

It's stupid to set up a discount arrangement with wholesale suppliers and then try to choke the program off because you're not getting the full retail price of the product sold through the wholesale partner. It may even be illegal. Someone needs to slide the URL for wikipedia's entry on wholesale to the manager responsible for this brilliance.

Well, it's gonna be interesting to fly around Rens and Pator and see one or two people in local, again. Maybe CCP will sell this tired, old game to another company and focus on their new and improved one, World of Warc--I mean Darkness.


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