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Johnathan Walker
Caldari
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:33:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Johnathan Walker on 22/05/2008 15:13:41
Quote:
Changes coming for ETC's and Game Time Cards

reported by: CCP Wrangler | 2008.05.22 13:57:19

To simplify the ETC reseller program and attune our product offerings with industry standards, CCP will introduce new 60-day EVE Time Codes (ETC) and Game Time Cards (GTC) for $34.99 USD. These will replace the 30- and 90-day cards that were previously available through authorized resellers and the 50- and 100-day cards sold in the EVE Store. This will affect both online ETC's and Game Time Cards sold in the EVE Online Store. Orders may still be placed for time cards of all increments while supplies last or until the changeover to the new 60-day cards goes into effect on June 15, 2008.



Dear CCP,

As a long time customer paying my own way to play Eve Online, I am both frustrated and disappointed that this decision has come down against the player base. I rather enjoy the flexibility of purchasing a 30-day code or a 90-day code when I wish to customize the length of time my account(s) are active.

Removing both 30 and 90 day options serves to limit player choice and force our decisions. I believe I speak for a fair number of players when I say this: stripping that little bit of control over how long we pay for is unwise.

I believe that simply introducing the 60 day option along with retaining the 30 and 90 day options will not only increase customer choice but may in fact drive higher traffic and sales to the company. As players are given more control and choice over their gaming experience, the possible rewards grow exponentially.

Please seriously re-consider the economic and demographic impact of removing the 30 day and 90 day options. I am one player that prefers to game in 30 day increments, and to decide where I play, when I pay, and how much I pay.

A concerned customer voting with his currency,
- JW


-edit- removed dollar comment to appease the smartpants

Mac Maniac
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:39:00 - [2]
 

I am seriously considering closing my 2nd account and from what I am hearing from my corpmates; many of them as well. CCP you are heading in entirely the WRONG direction.

Xennith
Imperial Logistics and Supply
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:40:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Johnathan Walker

A concerned customer voting with his dollar,
- JW


i think we may have identified the problem here. with the dollar losing so much value compared to other currencies im surprised it took this long to see a price hike. :(

Jantje Smit
Mothers Quantum Mechanics
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:41:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Mac Maniac
I am seriously considering closing my 2nd account and from what I am hearing from my corpmates; many of them as well. CCP you are heading in entirely the WRONG direction.


KBye.

Jantje Smit
Mothers Quantum Mechanics
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:41:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Johnathan Walker
*whine*
- JW


Dont pay using GTCs then?

Clone 1
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:43:00 - [6]
 

"Go Go Gadget CSM Council.."

First order of business.. GTCs.


Haakelen
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:45:00 - [7]
 

Welp. Kinda sucks, but the dollar is weak as hell, so what do you expect? It's an extra $2.50 a month, not a big deal unless you have 10 accounts or something.

Caiman Graystock
Caldari
Cornelius Starship and Computer Design
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:46:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Caiman Graystock on 22/05/2008 14:46:51

So it's just a price hike, really- a sigfnificant one in that it forces anyone who plays with GTCs to buy two months worth of game time at a minimum. Why make a move to simplify things for the reseller and not the customer?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:52:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Haakelen
Welp. Kinda sucks, but the dollar is weak as hell, so what do you expect? It's an extra $2.50 a month, not a big deal unless you have 10 accounts or something.
…so the question is, what will the price be in €?

fux lol
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:52:00 - [10]
 

bah, i used to love the fact that i could buy a 90 day for my main which i'm always using

and when i start to get low on isk, i'd buy a 30 day timecard for an alt and do some missions on it.. or y'know i could just buy a 30 day card if i wanted to try out another portion of the game for a decent price.. its silly that now i have to Pay More.. for the oppurtunity to lose some of this flexibility..

not so much a whine, as a general thumbs down at CCP, something ive not actually thought in a good 3 years

Bleh -1

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:57:00 - [11]
 

SUPRISE: CCP AFTER MORE MONEY

Stops a lot of downtime training for alts as well.

SKUNK

fux lol
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:58:00 - [12]
 

also, wher'd you get your info, cant find anything on this at all, dev blog on the website, most up to date one is for the 21st cant find anything from today on the entire eve site.

Jantje Smit
Mothers Quantum Mechanics
Posted - 2008.05.22 14:58:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Mac Maniac
Jantje Smit, Why don't you try to use your head for something other than a hatrack?


Because thousands of UK suscribers have been avoiding costs by paying in $, im not suprised they upped the price.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:00:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: fux lol
also, wher'd you get your info, cant find anything on this at all, dev blog on the website, most up to date one is for the 21st cant find anything from today on the entire eve site.
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Digital Anarchist
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:01:00 - [15]
 

Dear CCP, please reconsider this decision.

Having the GTC flexibility is just one of the things that make Eve great.

If you just want to raise prices, do so openly.

Arito Ka
Gallente
Encarta Industries
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:05:00 - [16]
 

I would be fine with CCP raising prices do to the weak USD. However, I'm not really understanding why they would go about doing this by only offering 60day timecards. More options is always better than 1 choice.

Mac Maniac
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:08:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Jantje Smit
Originally by: Mac Maniac
Jantje Smit, Why don't you try to use your head for something other than a hatrack?


Because thousands of UK suscribers have been avoiding costs by paying in $, im not suprised they upped the price.


And upping the cost in exchange for the loss of accounts and alienating customers is good for business?

Tissa
Minmatar
Mnemonic Enterprises
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:08:00 - [18]
 

The UK players pay twice as much as the Americans because we have a VAT of 17.5%

Please continue to whine about your tiny $ increase.

Mavolio
Viziam
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:08:00 - [19]
 

Looks like they had lots of time to talk about fixing the cost of EvE but yet they still havn't made it possible to pay with Maestro cards.

Donald Truman
State Protectorate
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:09:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Digital Anarchist
If you just want to raise prices, do so openly.


This. I find it quite off-putting to see CCP portraying this in terms of "we're just simplifying things and getting in line with industry standards", with zero acknowledgment that this constitutes a subscription fee increase.

Unless raising prices without saying that's what you're doing is the "industry standard" they're talking about.

Red Skelton
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:12:00 - [21]
 

Dont care if it costs more. I do want 30 or 90 day choices, however.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:13:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Donald Truman
Originally by: Digital Anarchist
If you just want to raise prices, do so openly.


This. I find it quite off-putting to see CCP portraying this in terms of "we're just simplifying things and getting in line with industry standards", with zero acknowledgment that this constitutes a subscription fee increase.

Unless raising prices without saying that's what you're doing is the "industry standard" they're talking about.


From CCP's point of view, this may not consitute a price rise. They don't work in dollars. They may in fact just be ending what has come to constitute a huge discount to US customers.

AFAIK, I'm still paying 15 Euros per month as a subscriber. For a long time, US players were paying considerably less than me. Now that the subsidised dollar price has been equalised, why the outrage?

Johnathan Walker
Caldari
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:15:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: fux lol
also, wher'd you get your info, cant find anything on this at all, dev blog on the website, most up to date one is for the 21st cant find anything from today on the entire eve site.


Login to the game. Right on the news screen.

Johnathan Walker
Caldari
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:16:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Malcanis


AFAIK, I'm still paying 15 Euros per month as a subscriber. For a long time, US players were paying considerably less than me. Now that the subsidised dollar price has been equalised, why the outrage?


It's not the cost, its the fact that no longer will customers have a choice between 30 or 90 day... they will be forced to buy 60 days at a time, no exceptions.

Rosur
Gallente
Heroes.
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:17:00 - [25]
 

Dont do this or at least make 60days aroud $24 rather than $34. Or just add the 60 days as well dont get rid of the 30days and 90days

fux lol
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:18:00 - [26]
 

ok.. where on the website can i tell ccp "no"

lol

Johnathan Walker
Caldari
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:19:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: fux lol
ok.. where on the website can i tell ccp "no"

lol


http://www.ccpgames.com/company/contact.asp

Jorr Meditir
Gallente
Deathwatch Gaming
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:19:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Rosur
Dont do this or at least make 60days aroud $24 rather than $34. Or just add the 60 days as well dont get rid of the 30days and 90days


Yeah, not cool CCP, not cool.

Naomi Chiyo
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:19:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Naomi Chiyo on 22/05/2008 15:22:22
Those new timecards don t just affect the games flexibility, thy are increasing the price by the fair amount of 35%.
Just consider a 90day -GTC being sold for over 50$ cause that would be the equivalent to those new codes.
I mean when you ve to adjust to something, and change the length of the codes,
WHY INCREASE THE PRICE BY 35% AS WELL ?


Lord XSiV
Amarr
Kodar Innovations
Posted - 2008.05.22 15:27:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Mac Maniac
I am seriously considering closing my 2nd account and from what I am hearing from my corpmates; many of them as well. CCP you are heading in entirely the WRONG direction.



Yawn.

Don't worry, your threat to cancel your 'second' account has been noted and falls into a very low to non-existent likelihood of occurance. And if it were to happen, the revenue will quickly be replaced by a real dedicated player once power of two is offered once again.

Thank you CCP for starting to address real paying customers concerns of being able to play the game by 'culling' the free loaders into paying what is more appropriate for an on demand method of payment which is common everywhere else.



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