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Mael DeVries
Hobbit Enterprises
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 18:26:00 - [91]
 

More is better.

Allanon Wren
Minmatar
Republic Military School

Posted - 2008.05.22 18:33:00 - [92]
 

/signed

Varly
Posted - 2008.05.22 18:33:00 - [93]
 

Poasting in support.

Toman Jerich
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 18:42:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: Toman Jerich on 22/05/2008 18:45:27
Anyone who wants to bring ships that cannot use jump gates into a cynojammed system should be required to take down the cynojammer first, either by destroying it (if hostile) or by off-lining it (if friendly).

Roscoe Rhoads
Mont Pelerin Society
Posted - 2008.05.22 18:47:00 - [95]
 

Agree with op.

Heng
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:04:00 - [96]
 

Supporting this

Al Sayyid
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:11:00 - [97]
 

signin' dis

Faust Revis
Caldari
Battlestars
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:20:00 - [98]
 

I support

Malakev
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:21:00 - [99]
 

I support

Invictus
Minmatar
Battlestars
S E D I T I O N
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:22:00 - [100]
 

i support

Voculus
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:38:00 - [101]
 

:thumbs:

Frobbe
Gallente
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:40:00 - [102]
 

i agree

Xenofur
Aliastra

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:48:00 - [103]
 

Edited by: Xenofur on 22/05/2008 19:48:25

Hamfast
Gallente

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:50:00 - [104]
 


Cannibal PLT
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:53:00 - [105]
 

poastin

Jasharin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:53:00 - [106]
 

this just doesn't make any sense

Jalmari Huitsikko
Caldari
draketrain

Posted - 2008.05.22 19:54:00 - [107]
 

.

Teclis van'Dreike
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:55:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: Teclis van''Dreike on 23/05/2008 06:10:14
Signed, agreeing, and supporting this.

D'Avore
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:56:00 - [109]
 

Supporting this!

Mike Yass
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 19:58:00 - [110]
 

Make them Sov4 only, thanks in advance.

Wu Liao
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 20:10:00 - [111]
 

Signing dis.

Cursive
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.22 20:12:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: Cursive on 22/05/2008 20:12:55
Signed

Manny Calaveira
Posted - 2008.05.22 21:00:00 - [113]
 

Supporting this.

Fallorn
Deep Core Mining Inc.

Posted - 2008.05.22 21:06:00 - [114]
 

My name is Shut up Fallorn. And I totally agree with the words that are written at the top of the first page of this thread.

cimmaron
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.05.22 21:17:00 - [115]
 

I do not agree, there needs to be advantages in defending your home space/territory. As it stands right now, the Lagfest that is fleet battle is absurd, the OP's suggestion would only make it worse, again, not supported.

Pringlescan
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.05.22 21:20:00 - [116]
 

I support this idea.

Xanja
2H Industries

Posted - 2008.05.22 21:35:00 - [117]
 

ok

jm24
CRICE Corp
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.05.22 21:45:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: cimmaron
I do not agree, there needs to be advantages in defending your home space/territory. As it stands right now, the Lagfest that is fleet battle is absurd, the OP's suggestion would only make it worse, again, not supported.


Defenders get the advantage of being closer to the region then the enemy, advantage enough.

Scagga Laebetrovo
Failure Assured
Posted - 2008.05.22 21:45:00 - [119]
 

Wonder what Bob thinks about this one.

Lord WarATron
Amarr
Shadow Warri0rs
Posted - 2008.05.22 21:50:00 - [120]
 

Edited by: Lord WarATron on 22/05/2008 21:59:15
Originally by: Waterfowl Democracy
Cyno jammers were supposed to facilitate sub capital combat however using jumpbridges a sub capital fleet is left to take on a heavily armed POS in a system where the defenders can deploy titans and motherships (as well as carriers and dreads) in almost complete safety.



I Disagree. The Cynojammer is not supposed to facilitate sub capitals, it was to remove the old trench warfare of POS battles where people would reinforce your system with dreads while you sleep then dock up 50 jumps away in perfect safety when you got a gang going. It made a mockery of Dreadnaughts since they could be used risk free.

Now with a Cynojammer which is easaly disabled in 5-10 mins, a attacker has to keep his capitals in system, therefore seiges of a system end in a couple of days insted of lasting months of Alarm Clock ops. This is because as soon as the attacker leaves the system, he is going to have a uphill struggle to incap the jammer for a 2nd time while pos's are being repaired.

Since nobody in eve has yet camped a single Jammer 24/7 365 days a year, anyone fleet with a good tactic can find a 10 minute window to incap the cynojammer and then cyno their capitals in.

The whole point of the jammer is to force capitals to stay in system and hence, encorage capital fights insted of risk free Dreadnaught usage as well as reduce month long timezone wars where people only win because someone messes up stront timer on a pos..


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