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Kale Murrow
Posted - 2008.05.15 00:55:00 - [1]
 

I'm sure there's plenty of topics like this with similar titles and subject matter, but one more can't hurt, right?

Well, as the title implies, I'm new to the whole piracy thing. I haven't really played too much (although my character age will say differently...I was just training skills and didn't have much time to actually play) so I don't have any real experience in PvP (although I got podded a couple times while hauling ore, but I don't think that counts). Currently I'm finishing up with training the skills I need to use some T2 autocannons (going with the Solo PvP Rifter loadout from Battleclinic), but after those are done I'm not really sure what I should do skill-wise. Due to my limited playtime, most of the skills I trained were mining and industry skills so I could still make some cash in the short time I did have to play. However, I do have Battlecruisers 3 at the moment and was thinking of picking up a Drake once I got a bit more cash. I know this sounds very general, but if anyone could offer any advice as to where I should start looking (skill and ship-wise) since I'm sick and tired of mining and want to experience more that this game has to offer.

Also, I'm trying to find a corp that would be willing to accept a new and inexperienced pirate. I've never really done much with corps (was in the default one for a bit and then one my roommate and I made) so I'm not sure what I should be looking for, etc. If someone could give me an idea as to what corps to look for or if any might be interested, I would greatly appreciate it.

Sorry if this topic is overposted and I'm sure many of you are tired of answering these kinds of questions, but I figured the best way to start with getting my Yarr on would be here. Thank you all for your time.

Fortune Mitford
Brosefs
Nulli Tertius
Posted - 2008.05.15 08:19:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Fortune Mitford on 15/05/2008 08:18:56
ShockedShockedShocked

well as a rule of thumb only do fly a ship if you have the skill required at 4.

might i point you in the direction of glaux in game channel 'glaux' they might be able to help ya out seeing as they do a mix of pvp and industry.

other than that just learn by doing pvp its the fastest most effective way to learn YARRRR!!

XxKatharsisxX
Posted - 2008.05.15 09:44:00 - [3]
 

Theres lots of good pirate corps in game.. best way to find 1 is just moving out to lowsec and meeting some of them

Good places to find pirates are Metropolis, Heimatar, Molden Heat, Bleak Lands and Genesis Regions.

stay a few days in these areas and im sure ull find some blinky players.. and then ask if u could come with em for piracy...

thats how most pirates started :)

dont mind if some of ur ships get blown up :)


Spectre3353
Gallente
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2008.05.15 12:39:00 - [4]
 

I would stay away from the Drake until you have considerably more experience because a newb in a Drake will attract a lot of attention and you WILL lose it quickly. Stick with the Rifter and work on your frig and support skills until you learn how to handle yourself in lowsec. Once you gain some confidence, skills and begin to get a feel for things move up into a t1 cruiser.

Kale Kold
Mindless Griefing
Posted - 2008.05.15 17:40:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Spectre3353
I would stay away from the Drake.

There is nothing wrong with a drake for pirating but granted it's more of a fleet ship. I would personally train guns and go min or gallente though.

Xian X
Ministry of Destruction
Posted - 2008.05.16 00:10:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Spectre3353
I would stay away from the Drake until you have considerably more experience because a newb in a Drake will attract a lot of attention and you WILL lose it quickly. Stick with the Rifter and work on your frig and support skills until you learn how to handle yourself in lowsec. Once you gain some confidence, skills and begin to get a feel for things move up into a t1 cruiser.


Xian X approves this message! \o/
Also, don't smack, be polite to customers and kill your excessive ego, you will lose ships and after each loss you need to be able to say gf to your opponent and really mean it. Smile

Kale Murrow
Posted - 2008.05.16 00:22:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Kale Murrow on 16/05/2008 00:26:02
Well, I decided to take a little trip into a 0.0 system that was a few jumps from where I was at the moment (I'm sure a few of you are laughing at this right now) to see if I could find a pirate or two to talk to. The trip there was uneventful, and as soon as I show up I see a player just sitting there probably waiting for one of his buddies to show up. For reference, I'm in a shuttle at the moment cause I had no intentions of using any expensive ships when I figured there's a high chance of me losing it. Anyway, I start to convo this guy in hopes of extracting some useful information. However, as I'm doing this, a ship appears out of nowhere and blasts my shuttle to hell and my pod shortly after. Now, being the idiot that I tend to be, I wasn't paying attention to the guy's name and I deleted the mail that I had received purely out of habit (I've gotten podded while hauling ore a lot and I didn't really care who had killed me before). So, I have no clue who killed me (or why he/she would shoot a shuttle not moving at the gate), but at least I didn't lose anything besides a random shuttle and a Theta clone. I'm going to try finding someone in a different area of space before the night's over, and hopefully I'll be able to actually get some insight into piracy. If not, well, a few people will have some shuttle killmails to add to their collection, I guess. Sorry for the massive wall of text...I'm writing this as I'm gate-hopping so I wasn't really paying attention to where paragraphs should go.

Edit: Forgot to say thanks for all the helpful advice, everyone.

Havohej
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
Posted - 2008.05.16 00:39:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Kale Murrow
Edited by: Kale Murrow on 16/05/2008 00:26:02
Well, I decided to take a little trip into a 0.0 system that was a few jumps from where I was at the moment (I'm sure a few of you are laughing at this right now) to see if I could find a pirate or two to talk to. The trip there was uneventful, and as soon as I show up I see a player just sitting there probably waiting for one of his buddies to show up. For reference, I'm in a shuttle at the moment cause I had no intentions of using any expensive ships when I figured there's a high chance of me losing it. Anyway, I start to convo this guy in hopes of extracting some useful information. However, as I'm doing this, a ship appears out of nowhere and blasts my shuttle to hell and my pod shortly after. Now, being the idiot that I tend to be, I wasn't paying attention to the guy's name and I deleted the mail that I had received purely out of habit (I've gotten podded while hauling ore a lot and I didn't really care who had killed me before). So, I have no clue who killed me (or why he/she would shoot a shuttle not moving at the gate), but at least I didn't lose anything besides a random shuttle and a Theta clone. I'm going to try finding someone in a different area of space before the night's over, and hopefully I'll be able to actually get some insight into piracy. If not, well, a few people will have some shuttle killmails to add to their collection, I guess. Sorry for the massive wall of text...I'm writing this as I'm gate-hopping so I wasn't really paying attention to where paragraphs should go.

Edit: Forgot to say thanks for all the helpful advice, everyone.


Shuttles and Rookie Ships tend to have blueprints in them, especially if they're sitting still at a 0.0 or lowsec gate (the sitting still part makes it look like the player is afk or was on autopilot and isn't aware that they're not moving). The pod kill, for a lot of people, is just how they get their kicks.

You don't need to go to 0.0 to learn how to PvP/be a pirate. Just take a Tech 1 frigate out in lowsec, learn to use your D-Scanner and have fun. Stick to inexpensive stuff until you start killing more often than you're dying, or until the fights are really really close and you feel that better gear would've made the difference (like when the Enyo who popped your Rifter was in structure before you died, for example).

As for who killed you, open your Character Sheet, look for Combat Log on the left, and go into your losses - it'll be there.

Andrea Skye
Caldari
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2008.05.16 01:36:00 - [9]
 

Been pirating for a few months now, so i will share a few things i found out :P

- Stay away from flying big ships, unless you have BOTH the skills the fly it (so as caldari need good sheild and gunnery/missiles skills, 3-5s on everything) and the money to lose it.

- Ransom pods, try ships if you can but in a frigate/cruiser you dont really have the time to do it. Pods dont shoot back, and you can still get a decent ransom from them. This is how ive made a majority of my piracy isk :P

- Find a SMALL pirate corp, big ones just blob people, so you never really learn the things you need to learn. Small is good too, because you get to know each other better. And its much more fun when you kill something.

- Firstly, id reccommend going for an interceptor. You can escape if you get blobbed, and can be run on minimal skill points. You can solo anything upto a cruiser just stay away from anything with alot of drones. :P Untill an interceptor, stick to a rifter, and then maybe get a Rupture if you feel like flying something abit bigger

- Find a quiet system, there are quite alot about, and take all your stuff there. Id reccommend making a Hauler alt to get all your supplies from high sec. Because eventualy you wont be able to enter it. A few days of skill training can get you a mammoth and upto 16000m/3 of cargo space which is enough for a battlecruiser :P

- Dont be put off if you lose ships, its all a learning process, take a loss as a lesson learned, and try not to die in the same way again


Kale Murrow
Posted - 2008.05.16 23:17:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Andrea Skye
- Firstly, id reccommend going for an interceptor.


Any suggestions on which one to choose? I've heard that the Crow and Stiletto are both good...haven't heard much about any of the others, though. Looking at the required skills for interceptors, I would be able to fly Caldari or Minmatar ones, but I wouldn't be adverse to training another race if there's a vastly superior ship that one has.

Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
Posted - 2008.05.16 23:39:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Andrea Skye
- Firstly, id reccommend going for an interceptor.
Meh... Personally, I'd recommend against ceptors. Sure they are easier to train up for, but they are a deadend. The only other thing Frigate V leads to is AFs, and ceptors have a flying style that is unique to them and nanos (which will soon be getting nerfed).

But if you train up to Cruiser V then you open up HACs, Recons, HICs, and a step towards CSs. Longer investment, but well worth it. Similar usage styles among a number of them, and much better gank/tank potential.

Note - I'm NOT a ceptor pilot so my views may be inherently biased.



 

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