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Messerschmitt facility
Posted - 2008.05.12 20:31:00 - [31]

just put an -ian at the end of each race. It goes for everybody


There :P

Posted - 2008.05.12 20:41:00 - [32]

i just call it scum Neutral

Khandara Seraphim
Fallout Project
Posted - 2008.05.12 20:46:00 - [33]

Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Regarding 'Matari', where did the 'min' go?

I've always been under the impression that the "min" meant something along the lines of "all" or something similar.

So Minmatar would be "all of the matari". In my opinion it seems like an honorific term for the nation.

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.05.12 20:53:00 - [34]

Now, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm having a hard time finding any use of the word 'Caldarian' in the backplot. Caldari, lots. Caldari citizens some, but ... *shrug*.

Gorion Wassenar
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.05.12 21:23:00 - [35]

Caldari can be used as a singular and a plural. It was and is Caldari for 1 to infinity.

Reiaandra Ilin
Hello Kitty Island Adventure Club
Posted - 2008.05.12 21:46:00 - [36]

Edited by: Reiaandra Ilin on 12/05/2008 21:47:31
I'm pretty sure since Caldanese is like japanese. Caldari would stay Caldari as they refer to themselves.

in english: Japanese
in japanese: Nihon jin ((Japan person))

Also,there are no plurals in Japanese.

AND Caldarian just sounds stupid.


Matar people

Amarrish language
Amarr navy


Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2008.05.12 21:58:00 - [37]

Originally by: Reiaandra Ilin
Amarrish language
Amarr navy

I'm pretty sure that, at least for a while, the proper spelling was "Amarrgh!" for everything related to them Laughing

Carnun Blodeuwedd
Posted - 2008.05.12 22:57:00 - [38]

Edited by: Carnun Blodeuwedd on 12/05/2008 22:59:10
Ok. We're really not kingdomites, (not to mention that sounds ridiculous). If you say the UK then the emphasis is really on the 4 states that make the UK up so it would be the Scotish/Scots, English, Welsh and Northern Irish or otherwise British.

Also, I don't think we're the Britons either. The Britons were the indigeous tribes (Pictish and Gaelic or the Insular Celtish) who lived in the British isle until the Anglo-Saxon invasion. So, until 1066 (when the Normans invaded) the people of south-east England were the Anglo-Saxons with people of Celtish origin living in Cornwall, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.

Anyway, since 1066 I would say the country was called Britain and the people British (looking at it retrospectively). After the Acts of Union the country is either called the United Kindom, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (NI joined later], Great Britain or just Britain. The people are Brits, British or called by the particular country they come from within the United Kingdom.

Hereth endith the lesson.

As to the actual discussion. If its Caldarians in the lore then its Caldarians but I'm sure you'll just call everyone what you want. :p

Posted - 2008.05.13 00:58:00 - [39]

I'm not really bothered about a name to be honest.
If CCP wants to call us Caldarians then let them, it's their game.
I always went with the "same name" thing myself aka Caldari Caldari.

Children of the Wind
Posted - 2008.05.13 03:42:00 - [40]

Originally by: Dani Leone
So the Caldari are now Caldarians?

What a horribly diseuphonous term. Are CCP perhaps thinking of further retcons for example calling the Amarr, Ammarish? Maybe the Gallente, Gallentic? And the Matari Minmataranese perhaps?

I jusst treat it as slang, an improper 'word' created by the mingling of other cultures who can attach the suffix to their name, and think it's doable for Caldari, when grammatically, it is incorrect. It would be like saying Matarian or Intakian.

Caldari is an unchanging name, we have them in the real world, such as in the far eastern cultures. I could see Caldanese being used in some instances but Caldarian? No,m never, least of all as a noun.

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2008.05.13 03:43:00 - [41]

Actually the plural of caldari are caldibaba.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2008.05.13 03:44:00 - [42]

I think you guys are geeking out over nothing.

Children of the Wind
Posted - 2008.05.13 03:45:00 - [43]

Edited by: Kvirie on 13/05/2008 03:47:43
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 12/05/2008 18:09:36
Well, I suppose it sounds better than "Caldaris"... no ?

Caldari State citizens -> Caldarians Caldari
Gallente Federation citizens -> Gallenteans correct
Amarr Empire citizens -> Amarrians correct
Minmatar Republic citizens -> Minmatarians (or Matarians) No, It's just Matar/Matari

You know, same way you go from Republic to Republicans.
Or from America to Americans.
I see no particular problem with it.

Sure, you could call them "Caldarese" or "Caldarinian" or "Caldars" or even just "Caldari" .
What would you prefer ?

You don't call Icelanders Iclandians do you? Also, as I said in my above post: Far eastern people, they do not have the ian/an suffix.

Originally by: Shionoya Risa
Originally by: James Lyrus
Ugh, no.

Lets stick with Caldari as the plural of Caldari, shall we?

Caldari is not the plural of Caldari. So, no, we shall not 'stick' with it.

Moose and Deer anyone?Wink

Segge Bolled
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.13 04:35:00 - [44]

Edited by: Segge Bolled on 13/05/2008 05:34:31

EDIT: Not forgetting the Jove, of course.

Amarr = Amarrian
Caldari = Caldari
Gallente = Gallentean
Jove = Jovian
Minmatar = Matari

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2008.05.13 04:46:00 - [45]

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Reiaandra Ilin
Amarrish language
Amarr navy

I'm pretty sure that, at least for a while, the proper spelling was "Amarrgh!" for everything related to them Laughing

I prefer Amarrrrr!!!! YARRRR!!

Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.13 04:46:00 - [46]

Let's just call us Caldarianeseish. That's like mixing an, nese, and ish together. no complaints Very Happy

Pax Amarr
Posted - 2008.05.13 05:10:00 - [47]


Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2008.05.13 05:17:00 - [48]


State Constructions
Posted - 2008.05.13 05:43:00 - [49]

Whatever we are called, we are the superiority, along side with Amarr.

And whatever they are called, read my sig!

cal nereus
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.05.13 05:59:00 - [50]

Originally by: Adonis 4174
Sure you can call us Caldarians. It's like calling someone a Britisher. You'll get laughed at for saying it but it's technically correct.

This sounds like fun. Very Happy

Cyriel Longinus
Posted - 2008.05.13 06:11:00 - [51]

"New Flash: Citizens of the State are stunned and bewildered over which evocation best represent us a people, in the mass hysteria and what has become a state-wide identity crisis stocks plummet as manufactures recall products for relabeling, thousands of pod pilots gather around Jita IV – IV and then self destruct in mass protest, refusing an era in which they are to be called Caldarians, apparently many bored Matari just went along for the ride … more news at 11!”

I would like to also point out that story refers to the State as a Nation. Which is correct to say but is odd since it is widely accepted as the “State”.

For example, saying “The Caldarian Nation” or “glory to the Nation!” would make anyone sound like a foreigner to the Caldari State. It would be like saying “The American Regime” or “British Commonwealth”.

Radix Salvilines
legion industries ltd
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2008.05.13 06:25:00 - [52]


thats better :P

Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.13 07:59:00 - [53]

New weapon of the Caldari Very Happy The plural form of our name.

Drive all other races insane, causing their heads to explode. I sense a great many nerf-Caldari posts in the near future Very Happy

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