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The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:48:00 - [1]
 

Here's proof

CCP, why do you allow this to happen?

Again goons are trying to destroy your own game, killing our game experience AND now trying to rig the elections?

I demand this representative to be expelled from the election now!

How can we vote for a representative knowing he's trying to cheat? How can someone claim to be honest and trustfully person when proof show otherwise?

Aran Makor
Caldari
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:51:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: The Kan
Here's proof

CCP, why do you allow this to happen?

Again goons are trying to destroy your own game, killing our game experience AND now trying to rig the elections?

I demand this representative to be expelled from the election now!

How can we vote for a representative knowing he's trying to cheat? How can someone claim to be honest and trustfully person when proof show otherwise?



Lol, i was waiting for this post.

Sworn Absent
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:52:00 - [3]
 

IF you actually read Darius' CSM thread, this point was already answered.

The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:53:00 - [4]
 

It's very clear that this person has a hidden agenda, and i bet it's not for the good of eve.

Dont stand still. This is about YOU and YOU alone.

do -NOT- vote for Darius JOHNSON and spread this around so others know about the truth and avoid voting for this lier.

The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:55:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Sworn Absent
IF you actually read Darius' CSM thread, this point was already answered.


Lol, i was waiting for this post.

Do you really think people will heat your poison?
Well some will, but im here to help to prevent that.

goons are here to kill EVE and everyone opposing them using any trick they can pull off.

DO NOT TRUST goons AND DO NOT VOTE FOR THEM.
IT's WRONG

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:55:00 - [6]
 

You can't stop block voting.

The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:58:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
You can't stop block voting.


Another reason why this person must be removed from the candidates list.

Not only he's not trustworthy, hidden agenda, trying to rig the elections and getting his alliance weigh behind him.

So you see any honesty in this? i don't.

Sworn Absent
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:59:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: The Kan
Originally by: LaVista Vista
You can't stop block voting.


Another reason why this person must be removed from the candidates list.

Not only he's not trustworthy, hidden agenda, trying to rig the elections and getting his alliance weigh behind him.

So you see any honesty in this? i don't.


So you see any substance or evidence in your posts? I don't.

Lucy'Lastic
Posted - 2008.05.07 11:59:00 - [9]
 

You consider gathering support from people in your Alliance as 'rigging an election' ?

Are you serious ?

what about a Candidate using an Alt to bump their own threads in the Jita Park section, show support for their main and telling people not to vote for another candidate?


LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:00:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: The Kan
Originally by: LaVista Vista
You can't stop block voting.


Another reason why this person must be removed from the candidates list.

Not only he's not trustworthy, hidden agenda, trying to rig the elections and getting his alliance weigh behind him.

So you see any honesty in this? i don't.

No, I don't see any honesty.

But what do you expect? An alliance have shared interest, thus it's logical with blockvoting.
Same happens in RL elections. Please go tell the world that it's broken.

What IS broken is that the goonies could potentially grief the council.

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:05:00 - [11]
 

Well, to be fair he used the word "rig" in the post.

Maybe that's just because he is missing a bit of grey matter upstairs or sumthin'. :P

Teclis van'Dreike
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:19:00 - [12]
 

I don't see any proof.

But hey, don't let that stop you. Give Goons more publicity.

Goumindong
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:19:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista

What IS broken is that the goonies could potentially grief the council.


This will not happen.

The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:23:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: LaVista Vista

What IS broken is that the goonies could potentially grief the council.


This will not happen.



just because a goon said so? please ....

The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:27:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Lucy'Lastic
You consider gathering support from people in your Alliance as 'rigging an election' ?



i suggest you go back and re-read what's in that print screen. it's simple to read.
ill help you, since your a goon.

r-i-g

Teclis van'Dreike
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:29:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: The Kan
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: LaVista Vista

What IS broken is that the goonies could potentially grief the council.


This will not happen.



just because a goon said so? please ....


Please, entertain us. What do you think a Goon could do during that meeting at CCP. Go with the worst case scenario you can come up with.

Teclis van'Dreike
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: The Kan
Originally by: Lucy'Lastic
You consider gathering support from people in your Alliance as 'rigging an election' ?



i suggest you go back and re-read what's in that print screen. it's simple to read.
ill help you, since your a goon.

r-i-g


I'll help you.

H-U-M-O-U-R

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:40:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: LaVista Vista

What IS broken is that the goonies could potentially grief the council.


This will not happen.

How so?

As far as I'm aware, you aren't GS candidate. So how can you know their intention?

Draygo Korvan
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:42:00 - [19]
 

Yall got trolled.

Asking people to cast legitamite votes for a canidate is not rigging an election.

Rigging an election would require cheating.

Tom Harry
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:43:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Tom Harry on 07/05/2008 12:43:58
Originally by: Teclis van'Dreike

Please, entertain us. What do you think a Goon could do during that meeting at CCP. Go with the worst case scenario you can come up with.
Worst case?

There's four goons running, right? Alright, lets see then, brainfarting time.

Worst case: The four goons wait around at the arrival gate at the airport in Icelandicland. They identify and kidnap the five other CSM under the false pretense of recruiting them for a 9 seat taxi.

They take the five kidnappees out into the Icelandi wilderness, bury them in the sand dunes with only their heads poking up and a pair of chineese eating sticks to dig their way out.

The goons then proceed to the CCP building where one defecates outside in the lovely green hedge. Alerted by the strange smell from their garden, the devs come out to greet the CSM and learn that only four "had time" to come.

Some greetings later they find themselves in the CCP briefing room where the unsuspecting devs go through their latest plans point by point. Little do they know of the danger at hand.

The goons sit and wait.
Downtime comes and the servers go offline.
The goons strike.

An hour later the devs are missing, the Eve Server Cluster thoroughly humped by a local dog that slipped in while none was watching and the actual game itself is rewired granting Goons Jove ships and a penetration-proof Deathstar called Ted.

Teclis van'Dreike
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:44:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: LaVista Vista

What IS broken is that the goonies could potentially grief the council.


This will not happen.

How so?

As far as I'm aware, you aren't GS candidate. So how can you know their intention?


http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=759932


Goumindong
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:46:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Goumindong on 07/05/2008 12:50:18
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: LaVista Vista

What IS broken is that the goonies could potentially grief the council.


This will not happen.

How so?

As far as I'm aware, you aren't GS candidate. So how can you know their intention?


I may not be the GS candidate but i know the people involved and they harbor no ill will towards CCP or the game.

Furthermore, goons win when goons log on and fight. Such, its in our best interests to make the game as fun as possible.

edit: As well antagonizing CCP without the support of the community is not in an alliances best interests[note that all other antagonizing occurred with the support of the community].

When you combine the negative effects of doing so with the lack of motive to take the action[as well as my knowledge of the people involved, though that is more down to whether or not you trust me], you should see there is no reason for the Goons to do this.

Darius and Bane share the same drive to make the game good and fun as I do, though obviously i think i am better at doing that than they are, and no GS candidate would "grief the council"


Teclis van'Dreike
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:46:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Teclis van''Dreike on 07/05/2008 12:49:52
Originally by: Tom Harry
Edited by: Tom Harry on 07/05/2008 12:43:58
Originally by: Teclis van'Dreike

Please, entertain us. What do you think a Goon could do during that meeting at CCP. Go with the worst case scenario you can come up with.
Worst case?

There's four goons running, right? Alright, lets see then, brainfarting time.

Worst case: The four goons wait around at the arrival gate at the airport in Icelandicland. They identify and kidnap the five other CSM under the false pretense of recruiting them for a 9 seat taxi.

They take the five kidnappees out into the Icelandi wilderness, bury them in the sand dunes with only their heads poking up and a pair of chineese eating sticks to dig their way out.

The goons then proceed to the CCP building where one defecates outside in the lovely green hedge. Alerted by the strange smell from their garden, the devs come out to greet the CSM and learn that only four "had time" to come.

Some greetings later they find themselves in the CCP briefing room where the unsuspecting devs go through their latest plans point by point. Little do they know of the danger at hand.

The goons sit and wait.
Downtime comes and the servers go offline.
The goons strike.

An hour later the devs are missing, the Eve Server Cluster thoroughly humped by a local dog that slipped in while none was watching and the actual game itself is rewired granting Goons Jove ships and a penetration-proof Deathstar called Ted.


Damn... how did you get your hands on our super-secret manifesto for EVE?

Edit: We planned it all at a BBQ.

The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:51:00 - [24]
 

the goon fofofo begun here too ...
this topic is sinking fast captain, but we shall not vote for this bastards.!

SAVE EVE DO NOT VOTE ON DARIUS!

Bane Glorious
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.05.07 12:55:00 - [25]
 

The secret goon plan is to use the CSM to get the models of all titans changed to the monster truck Grave Digger.

Xennith
Imperial Logistics and Supply
Posted - 2008.05.07 13:00:00 - [26]
 

Why are people surprised that Goonswarm are harnessing their member base to vote in people who they KNOW share the same interests as their alliance?

Didnt everyone take GS voting for GS candidates as a given?

Piitaq
Gallente
19th Star Logistics
Posted - 2008.05.07 13:02:00 - [27]
 

Tom Harry: You sure made me laugh Very Happy Thanks for that!

Im not a goon lover, as a matter of fact, last time I got blown up and podded was by a Goon, BUT I see nothing wrong with Goons voting for other Goons that are running for CSM, it seems natural to support your leaders and friends.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.05.07 13:25:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Jade Constantine on 07/05/2008 13:25:37

Yeah this one is a bit of a fail in the drama bomb stakes. Darius is probably unwise to talk of his strategy "rigging" anything since its just electoral tactics not anything inherently shady. Basically he wants multiple Goon candidates on the CSM to increase the voting power of the Goons. Not exactly startling news to anyone who has followed the history of Goonfleet in Eve.

All this topic shows is that Darius believes Goonfleet is more organized and motivated than rival entities (and the general eve public) and this means he has an opportunity to get at least 2 candidates into the CSM by the Goon primary winner's voting block (Bane Glorious) and his own slice of the internal pie + whichever non Goons he can talk into voting for him.

If you don't like Darius' strategy simply don't vote for him. Force the Goons to rely on their internal block vote only and you'll probably limit Goons to only one vote on the CSM. If you don't want Goons to win the chairman of the council position then get voting for another non-Goon candidate and make sure as many of your own corp and alliance mates register meaningful votes as well.

Goons have a few thousands of votes in Eve.
The rest of the community has 200,000.

Only voter apathy is going to deliver a Goon-dominated/Goon-Chairman council. Lets make sure it doesn't happen right? Cool



Swamp Ziro
Ultimate Betrayal.
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2008.05.07 13:31:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 07/05/2008 13:25:37

Yeah this one is a bit of a fail in the drama bomb stakes. Darius is probably unwise to talk of his strategy "rigging" anything since its just electoral tactics not anything inherently shady. Basically he wants multiple Goon candidates on the CSM to increase the voting power of the Goons. Not exactly startling news to anyone who has followed the history of Goonfleet in Eve.

All this topic shows is that Darius believes Goonfleet is more organized and motivated than rival entities (and the general eve public) and this means he has an opportunity to get at least 2 candidates into the CSM by the Goon primary winner's voting block (Bane Glorious) and his own slice of the internal pie + whichever non Goons he can talk into voting for him.

If you don't like Darius' strategy simply don't vote for him. Force the Goons to rely on their internal block vote only and you'll probably limit Goons to only one vote on the CSM. If you don't want Goons to win the chairman of the council position then get voting for another non-Goon candidate and make sure as many of your own corp and alliance mates register meaningful votes as well.

Goons have a few thousands of votes in Eve.
The rest of the community has 200,000.

Only voter apathy is going to deliver a Goon-dominated/Goon-Chairman council. Lets make sure it doesn't happen right? Cool





Let's make the most long winded person known to humanity the chairman of a newly formed council with not-yet defined duties and powers, this surely can't go wrong and will ensure that the council will have practical responsibilities!

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.05.07 13:36:00 - [30]
 


Defensive much Swamp Ziro? Very Happy

Go have a nice cup of tea and chill out. We're all Eve gamers here and want the best for the game - no need for damage control, I just pointed out your leader isn't really "rigging" anything, just hoping to win the benefits of a drone voting block in an environment of potential voter apathy.


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