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Klaitu BenJohhn
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.05.08 08:57:00 - [31]

Edited by: Klaitu BenJohhn on 08/05/2008 08:57:42
Well, an Exit poll is called an exit poll because the voters are polled as they exit the voting facility.

Some poor joey gets to sit there and ask random people who they voted for. Exit polls are statistically accurate, but have been traditionally inaccurate in reality.

I don't think there is any harm in asking people privately who they voted for and then posting an aggregated result, though that usually happens after the polls have closed.

Personally, I believe that announcing the data beforehadn would have little impact on the actual results. If we're talking voter influence, then just the post count on each candidate's thread is enough to determine who has the most influence.

Killer Kelly
Allied Tactical Unit
Brutally Organized Ruthless Gangsters
Posted - 2008.05.08 10:04:00 - [32]

3 votes for Darius Johnson (includes a friend who I'm account-sitting, he told me to do it :p)

Vertigo Corp
Posted - 2008.05.08 11:03:00 - [33]

Originally by: zoolkhan
I Admit, _my_ experiences come from a country in europe. And i would not dare to suggest
the world does it like we do. I would not even know how my european neigbour country is doing it.

Maybe you should move a little more to the south then. Because in my particular European country, a small one by the name of the Netherlands, polls are held even if there aren't any elections coming up. They just intensify in an election period. Of course, these polls aren't -exit- polls. The idea of an -exit- poll is to ask people what they voted after they have cast their vote, which is what the OP seems to want to do.

Polling and publicizing polls are an important part of many (if not most) modern day democracies, as they allow more of an insight into the current mood of the general populace. Even if you consider that people could be lying, polls could be wrong, etc. the polls still reflect an important part of political reality. Trying to outlaw them is pointless and pointing out that they're probably wrong is just as much a political statement as publishing them in the first place...

For your information: Germany, France, Belgium and the UK all have plenty of polls going on from time to time, so I'm guessing it's your country in particular that tries to keep it's people quiet or that it just has crappy media...

Anyway, I think your suggestion that steejans nix was making a US-centric comment might be off the mark, even if nix -is- actually a US citizen.


Mr Fudd
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2008.05.08 13:24:00 - [34]

That's a lot of stuff there Grismar, but as you can see the guy who you're flaming was talking of exit polls specifically, not opinion polls in general.

May I suggest the following article:

especially the problems / criticism associated with certain situations when results of exit polls were published before the vote closed. Valid points, all in all.

I think this is the point that was made, no one here is against opinion polls in general, they are a nice statistical(ish) tool; although in my opinion it's hard to implement in Eve (as in, selecting a representative population sample). That would imply selecting the groups of people to interview, weight them depending on their percentage of the actual voting population, or something of that sort; than conduct the interviews. A poll on the forum is distorted already because it is restricted to the part of the population that actually reads these forums occasionally, while I know people that just checked on the candidates and casted their vote but aren't regular forum readers.
Having this in mind, without an actual sampling process the margin of error will be probably high and undefinable. Still, the results can be interesting, so I wish best of luck to the poll starter.

The Ashen Lion Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.09 11:21:00 - [35]

Ok, now we know what an exit poll is, maybe we ca get some votes posted here or sent to me in game via evemail.


Mr Horizontal
Posted - 2008.05.09 13:56:00 - [36]

6 for LaVista Vista

Posted - 2008.05.09 14:06:00 - [37]

Originally by: zoolkhan

If lobbies only bring votes its no issue. Its only when lobbies bring money with which votes can be bought when they otherwise might not be that is is an issue.

Anton March
Screaming Fist
Posted - 2008.05.09 16:31:00 - [38]

1 for Hardin so far. Haven't decided my other 2 yet, but am leaning Jade & LaVista.

Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.05.09 17:04:00 - [39]

1 for Tusko Hopkins.

Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.05.09 17:45:00 - [40]

2 for Jade, 1 for "the rightful president of the Gallente Federation" Omber Zombie Razz.

The Ashen Lion Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.11 04:05:00 - [41]

Poll nmbers still needed reply here.

Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.05.11 05:49:00 - [42]

Edited by: Forkrul on 11/05/2008 05:51:21
Edited by: Forkrul on 11/05/2008 05:50:59
I voted Jade Constantine for a number of reasons. The primary one is that she is a role-player and well known. She is therefore more likely than the other role-play candidates to do as she writes. Now why a role-player, some may ask? Well, while many things could be included to make role-players more complacent with an MMO, Jade will possibly urge the introduction of attributes to the game that may make it feel more immersive overall. She seems on the right pillar of what is truly needed in order to improve EVE Online.

I myself have technically quit playing EVE Online even though I keep my account active to train skills with the notion that I may come back. As a 0.0 solo-ist, the number one thing I am looking for is survivability, which would be perfectly okay if she somehow got the developers to remove all of this maximum speed upon undock crap.

But back to the Immersive aspect. Immersion is what keeps new players in, old players going and everyone intrigued. I recognize that Jade Constantine will keep attention to issues such as 0.0 warfare, low-sec quality gameplay and balance for both Pirates and Carebears as well as the wellfare of true high-sec carebears. Then there is me. All I want to do is just fkn play in 0.0 with the locals who I made friends with and not have to undock at full speed. Jade, please listen to this. I am voting for you because of your role-play background, but I hope you can push on issues that keep soloists balanced with corporations/groups.

Aside from all of this, if you actually read what she typed, it's quite impressive. She knows she can't promise everything, but simply do her best to get the developers to realize what needs to be done to keep EVE going. She seems to knows that the current state of Cynojammers and Capital warefare is heavily unbalanced. I don't know much about this, but I reckon that it is unbalanced toward the defender, but that she recognizes that defenders still 'ought to have the upper hand in almost any situation. Defenders should only lose out of a combination of superior attributes, not just one spearheading the enemy into their space.

Anyways, that is why I voted for Jade. As a role player, and a well known one, she seems to want to press issues which I think need pressing and will be held to it with her reputation.

The Ashen Lion Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.13 09:23:00 - [43]

We still need your "votes" for the exit poll, if you have friends get their attention and send them to this thread.


Sral TBear
Shipwreck cove
Posted - 2008.05.13 12:29:00 - [44]

Tbear = Hardin
realdoll = Hardin

2 for Hardin (the code wil strike me hard and the brotherhood will dishonnour me)

Mr Horizontal
Posted - 2008.05.21 13:45:00 - [45]

Originally by: Benilopax
I have decided not to release the results until the polls close. I will then announce the exit poll results while the votes are counted and finalised.

OK, the polls have closed, the votes are counted and finalised, so where's the announcement of the exit poll?

Scagga Laebetrovo
Failure Assured
Posted - 2008.05.21 13:50:00 - [46]

Hmpf. I'm quite of the opinion that telling people who you vote for is not a good idea.

The Ashen Lion Syndicate
Posted - 2008.05.21 14:21:00 - [47]

Inconclusive, not enough responses to give an acurate prediction.

People just don't care about an eve election exit poll.

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