open All Channels
seplocked Jita Park Speakers Corner
blankseplocked Being extorted, so here's the confession
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Pages: 1 [2]

Author Topic

Z0D
Minmatar
Rubycom Matrix
United Corporations Of Modern Eve
Posted - 2008.05.01 18:16:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Z0D on 01/05/2008 18:19:04
There is no simple ways to deal with this but to what extent would be considered an alt.... you are allowed to have 2 other chars on with the one training skills which u can log and use when u play the game, its in the game mechanics, does an alt stop being an alt when other char speaking is on a different account, or simply when person using is a different physical person.... a lot of people i know including me will use alts or other totally different characters to post on forums for different reasons, being annonymous is most of the time the reason for this behavior for me and for others

Z0D Cool

PS: I am an alt on the account i am to other chars on that account... but am a different char compared to other chars and alts i have on other accounts, each have differ ent training and are meant for different purposes, no one here is going to tell me they have never used other chars to express their views, boost their own auctions etc... get on with it and lets focus on the important things here

Totally agree with you Jade and Luna

Eva Marie
Posted - 2008.05.01 18:45:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Z0D
Edited by: Z0D on 01/05/2008 18:19:04
a lot of people i know including me will use alts or other totally different characters to post on forums for different reasons, being annonymous is most of the time the reason for this behavior for me and for others


Who cares if she used an alt or not. We all know the other candidates are doing the same. And whoever says otherwise, for sure won't get my vote, for being dishonest. Rolling Eyes

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.05.01 19:18:00 - [33]
 

Honestly, this won't affect my vote - I'm still considering Ankh as the candidate who will receive my vote.

The CSM candidates are human like everyone else, and I'm doubtful that many candidates haven't use this or similar tactics during this campaign or in EVE at some point. I probably have probably done something similar in my career in EVE. However, this does not mean that I think it was the right thing to do or that I'm willing to completely ignore the fact that it happened.

To be honest Ankhesentapemkah, you screwed up. First by using alts to support you, and second for getting caught. Wink

However, we're all human and I'm willing to overlook this incident and pay attention to the issues, which are really what the campaign should be about anyway.

Carry on. Smile

Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.05.01 20:11:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Eva Marie
Originally by: Z0D
Edited by: Z0D on 01/05/2008 18:19:04
a lot of people i know including me will use alts or other totally different characters to post on forums for different reasons, being annonymous is most of the time the reason for this behavior for me and for others


Who cares if she used an alt or not. We all know the other candidates are doing the same. And whoever says otherwise, for sure won't get my vote, for being dishonest. Rolling Eyes


Well tbh I can tell you with 100% honesty that I haven't and I wont and I am pretty sure many other CSM candidates wont either.

If that means you wont vote for me then so be it! I think I have already proved my integrity/honesty in other elements of this game.

The problem with being dishonest is that it invariably comes out (just as in this case). There is really no need to do it!






friendnamenotfound
Posted - 2008.05.01 22:39:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: friendnamenotfound on 01/05/2008 22:42:16
Edited by: friendnamenotfound on 01/05/2008 22:41:39
Hi,Ankie
Quote:

You are behavin' like an arse in the jita park section of the forums now "Gimme Dem Iskies or else"
Quote:

You forgot the 2nd Evemail:

PROOF
I Googled the name Hotep Shakkara

There is no way in the world that you could have denied she
was your Alt.

Which makes your statement below BS.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah


As for trust, I could have buried this little slip up and most likely have gotten away with it. Recycle the char, or just deny it belonging to me, as there wasn't that much to tie me to it,

However, if I did that, I would have been lying if someone asked about it. And if there's one thing I do not do, it's lying. That's why I did not bury it and admitted it instead.



You had no freakin'choice.

Maor Raor
Posted - 2008.05.01 22:55:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Maor Raor on 01/05/2008 22:59:14
Edited by: Maor Raor on 01/05/2008 22:58:41
Can i just say that if any other CSM candidate had come under the same kind of sustained abuse via trolling and S**Tpoasting that Ankhesentapemkah has in her campain, we would mostlikely have seen them do the same and much worse.

I feel that Ankhesentapemkah has (mostly) conducted herself well under the constant attack of trolls.
This is one of the main reasons that she will most likely get my vote and i know that im not alone in that.

I personaly think that for other CSM candidates to turn a blind eye to the kind of treatment that Ankhesentapemkah has gotten so far in this race is probably not a good idea.
How long till the trolls turn on them and destroy any chance of they have of having an intellegent disscusion on their views and policys.
It says alot about those candidates that they refuse to see the attacks for what they are.

And lets not forget.
The people who have the most to gain by destroying Ankhesentapemkahs chances at this election are the other candidates.
I garentee you that some of the trolls hounding her are infact other candidates alts.
A fact not lost on voters prone to tinfoil hattery as most eve players are.

I think Ankhesentaprmkah has done the right thing here.
Addmitted what she did and come clean.

I think other CSM candidates could probly afford do the same.

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.05.01 23:27:00 - [37]
 

I doubt that many of the other candidates are behind the trolling. They seem - the ones I've seen and spoken to - to be fairly reasonable and friendly people even if they disagree with someone.

Most likely they're alts of pirates who, in addition to being less sympathetic than the average EVE player, might have something to lose if she is in a position of power.

JeanLuc Rome
Gallente
Posted - 2008.05.01 23:39:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
Most likely they're alts of pirates who, in addition to being less sympathetic than the average EVE player, might have something to lose if she is in a position of power.


Well, that's an interesting theory there. I would be rather hard to prove unless they do a mishap. I have had the misfortune to come across RL political campaigns. Specially in these US 2008 elections. To be honest with you, I do agree with you about politician who approaches you with sweet-talk and extra uncalled-for attention, it is an indication of faking and most likely that person is not worth your vote. I'm like candidates that tell you things just the way they are, without brown-nosing.

Ank might be bashed constantly for being too honest about what she thinks. But maybe if the world had more politicians like her, our tax money (or our vote for that matter) wouldn't be such a waste.

mishkof
Caldari
Dirty Denizens
Posted - 2008.05.02 00:14:00 - [39]
 

Sorry, but it took extortion to make you see the error of your ways. This is one of the reasons this whole farce will probably fail as it is to easy to manipulate.



Wu Jiun
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.02 00:48:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Wu Jiun on 02/05/2008 00:50:19
yeah tarminic pirates are all unsympathetic, miserable beings and have no friends. they also never get girlfriends and inhibit the basements of their parents - this is a well known fact. Razz

as for pirates losing something with an overhaul of the bounty system. a working bounty system could be one of the greatest wins for piracy since some time and i know many pirates who think the same way.

concerning the alt trolling while i do not condone the obvious "washing of dirty laundry" it appears that statements like above (obviously a gross exaggeration here but you get the idea) do not help the situation. if people get or feel insulted because of how they play the game that sets the tune for the rest of the discussion.

so personally i hope ank can put her campaign forward without people throwing mud at her around every corner. still with ad hominems (and i know its a matter of the past but that is part of her history and people don't forget easily) one cannot expect to be treated lightly by everyone in turn either.


Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.05.02 01:17:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Wu Jiun
Edited by: Wu Jiun on 02/05/2008 00:50:19
yeah tarminic pirates are all unsympathetic, miserable beings and have no friends. they also never get girlfriends and inhibit the basements of their parents - this is a well known fact. Razz

I didn't mean that as an insult to pirates, honestly. I think that it's a valid assertion that pirates - in general - are less sympathetic to the issues affecting carebears than the average player.

Also, the trolls that attacked her seemed to use the same tone and methods common on the Crime and Punishment forum. Laughing

zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.05.02 07:24:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: zoolkhan on 02/05/2008 07:25:35
Originally by: Hardin

1) I am going to vote for Ankh Shocked
2) I am going to use my alt to make Goumindong look bad without implicating my main Shocked
3) Neutral
4) Ankh's video is great Shocked



..yesterday i was mentioning to my wife, who ihas been playing this game too and know some of the candidates gun-to-gun,
how civil this is going, i was admiring the candidates but also the voters
who seem to invest maturity and seriousness (high level for a game)
and there was so far no irrantional unfair bashing amongst the candidates.

Folks, lets keep it that way it went cool so far.. when this is over i want to know
i am out or in ... but it was a clean fair race.

group hug, and back into the ring - i want a fair fight


Pages: 1 [2]

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only