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Varopriest
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.04.29 07:49:00 - [1]
 

It's not hard to notice that some of the candidates are not overly fond of each other in game, and on the forums. My question is "how do you plan on dealing with another CSM member that proposes ideas and sugestions that you oppose when you are a member?"

Be nice. Be specific. Give an example of how you have dealt with this both in RL and in forums.



LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.04.29 07:52:00 - [2]
 

Just because you don't like them as a player, it doesn't mean you can't work with them.

But also remember that just because a discussion can get a bit "nasty" on the forums, people often change once it's over voice communcation or even in real life.

But personally, i don't think it's gonna be a problem at all. I have talked to a handful of candidates on ventrilo. They are all nice people. Very Happy

Varopriest
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.04.29 07:55:00 - [3]
 

Agreed that it's usually easier in person, but with the passion that most of the candidates show for the game, someone with an opposing view to what you enjoy, could cause problems.

Demos Colodan
101st Space Brigade - Wings of Destiny
Utterly Harmless
Posted - 2008.04.29 07:59:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Demos Colodan on 29/04/2008 08:02:04
I guess, one could pick up zool's notice:

The CSMs have to devide CSM work and business from game play.

Foreground is the work on received inputs from the community, not to fight out personal belongings from game play. IMHO it's a need, that CSMs do this division.

Thereby CSMs have to remain reticent. A diplomatic and constructive debate has to be the fundament on effective and successful work

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.04.29 07:59:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Varopriest
Agreed that it's usually easier in person, but with the passion that most of the candidates show for the game, someone with an opposing view to what you enjoy, could cause problems.

In theory, yes.

But i think that different perspectives rather cause interesting discussions, which leads to a better solution. While it might create a heated debate(Will happen, probably), it doesn't mean we don't like each other.

While i might agree with some of what x says, i can still think x is a nice person

zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.04.29 08:00:00 - [6]
 

i believe once people met in person in game rivalities will step into the background

i have not seen any form of council in any part of the world where all would just have friends
and hug each other nonstop.

debates are bound to happen, and probably also needed. And ccp is about to offload
this hard work to slave.. erm CSMs :-)

but i think most of us are grown ups and as such able to focus on a topic
from a RL angle, which is hopefully not just a direct a mirror of the IC/IG angle.



Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2008.04.29 11:42:00 - [7]
 

All the people on the CSM vent / CSM Halls channel a few days back sounded like friendly, mature people I could work with.

And as a neutral in game, I don't have issues with them in there either. Well except for the one that hired the trolls and assassins. Neutral

Nickaelhoop
Minmatar
Concordance Extraction Corporation
Posted - 2008.04.29 16:56:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Nickaelhoop on 29/04/2008 17:11:25
Edited by: Nickaelhoop on 29/04/2008 16:58:36
There is an EVE Vent?

Could someone be so kind as to PM me the details or even better post them here for everyone to use :).

Thank you.

Anyway,

I would consider it very selfish if people disagreed strongly on a subject. The person should be smart enough to look into the idea and see it the way they see it and possibly say "yes, your suggestion is better because..." or a polite "I still don't see the advantage of your view".

Of course I am not saying there will be no disagreement but I'm just suggesting that every point be conisdered and to be looked at though the eyes of others.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.04.29 17:04:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Varopriest
It's not hard to notice that some of the candidates are not overly fond of each other in game, and on the forums. My question is "how do you plan on dealing with another CSM member that proposes ideas and sugestions that you oppose when you are a member?"
Be nice. Be specific. Give an example of how you have dealt with this both in RL and in forums.



Ultimately I'm sure people will be reasonable. At the weekend we had a pretty good discussion with a group of CSM candidates at the Event run by Revan Neferis. I hosted voice discussions on the SF vent for a bit too. I think everyone there found it a pleasant experience and there was no childish nonsense. Some things we agreed on, some things we disagreed on, but handling debate in a mature and respectful fashion without personal pettiness is the decent option.

CSM is a democratic body, its down to 5 votes of 9. If elected I'll do my level best to advocate and persuade on behalf of ideas and issues I support but if I lose a vote in council I lose the vote - its time to move on. This kind of representative body has no use for people who endlessly harp on about discussions and arguments they've been out-voted on. And its important that the player electorate of Eve do their best to select a panel of nine representatives who are able to work as part of a team, and realize that debate and persuasion and not haranguing and arrogant superiority complex is the route to a successful inaugural CSM body.

Look for candidates open to suggestion.
Look for candidates able to smile and laugh at themselves occasionally.
Sense of humour is absolutely neccessary if we're going to be couped up with crazy eve players for 5 days Very Happy

Demos Colodan
101st Space Brigade - Wings of Destiny
Utterly Harmless
Posted - 2008.04.29 17:11:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Demos Colodan on 29/04/2008 17:14:20
Originally by: Nickaelhoop
Edited by: Nickaelhoop on 29/04/2008 16:58:36
There is an EVE Vent?

Could someone be so kind as to PM me the details or even better post them here for everyone to use :).

Thank you.


Thereby I accompany Nickaelhoop Very Happy

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.04.29 17:14:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Demos Colodan
Originally by: Nickaelhoop
Edited by: Nickaelhoop on 29/04/2008 16:58:36
There is an EVE Vent?

Could someone be so kind as to PM me the details or even better post them here for everyone to use :).

Thank you.


Thereby I accompany Nickealhoop Very Happy

No, there isn't.

But i think i will go and rent a 30 slot ventrilo server and have CSM people come on there, and let people join and ask them questions.
Brb.

Demos Colodan
101st Space Brigade - Wings of Destiny
Utterly Harmless
Posted - 2008.04.29 17:18:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista

But i think i will go and rent a 30 slot ventrilo server and have CSM people come on there, and let people join and ask them questions.
Brb.


Good idea, I guess I can't follow as quick as others do (as I'm not native english) but I'll do my very best... otherwise just imagine this german freak as one-ear-listener (matchable with a two-finger-writer) ^^

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.04.29 17:44:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Demos Colodan
Originally by: LaVista Vista

But i think i will go and rent a 30 slot ventrilo server and have CSM people come on there, and let people join and ask them questions.
Brb.


Good idea, I guess I can't follow as quick as others do (as I'm not native english) but I'll do my very best... otherwise just imagine this german freak as one-ear-listener (matchable with a two-finger-writer) ^^

That's ok :P

I found a host for a teamspeak server, as i was unable to get my hands on a ventrilo server.

I will create a new post about the server, once it's up and running.


 

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